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Sofia Bellard
Posted - 2011.08.19 22:22:00 - [1]
 

Just like the title says; I should be able to focus on the task at hand instead of watching over my shoulder to see if there is some pathetic trying to sneak up on me.

Doing missions in low sec and null demand full attention or you will find yourself in hull from the mission rats. Why should I have to enlist a second person to watch local and spam the directional scanner because someone wants to push their PvP on me?

I didn't do anything to you so why do you want to start a fight?

Rubix Khamsi
Posted - 2011.08.19 22:28:00 - [2]
 

stay in highsec.

CaldariCitizen19082011
Caldari
In Praise Of Shadows
Posted - 2011.08.19 22:28:00 - [3]
 

0/10

Far far too obvious and not nearly amusing enough.

Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
Posted - 2011.08.19 22:28:00 - [4]
 

Originally by: Sofia Bellard
I should be able to focus on the task at hand instead of watching over my shoulder

You should play a different game, not EVE.
Or at least, you should stay in highsec, in a NPC corp.

Sofia Bellard
Posted - 2011.08.19 22:31:00 - [5]
 

The mission rewards are better in low and null sec. Why would I decide to make less money?

Mag's
the united
Negative Ten.
Posted - 2011.08.19 22:35:00 - [6]
 

Originally by: Sofia Bellend
Just like the title says; I should be able to focus on the task at hand instead of watching over my shoulder to see if there is some pathetic trying to sneak up on me.

Doing missions in low sec and null demand full attention or you will find yourself in hull from the mission rats. Why should I have to enlist a second person to watch local and spam the directional scanner because someone wants to push their PvP on me?

I didn't do anything to you so why do you want to start a fight?
Eve is a PvP centric game.

Judge Ment
BOOM BOOM POW
Posted - 2011.08.19 22:44:00 - [7]
 

To be honest the best thing to do is stay in Empire, Don't come on the forums (to be trolled) and CCP doesn't tolerate people who try to take advantage of you care bear needs.

there are loop holes in the system so don't shoot someone, if you don't want to be shot back!


Hwong Jian
Posted - 2011.08.19 22:54:00 - [8]
 

Hello, capsuleer.

Welcome to New Eden. It has come to our attention that you have a few questions about this brave new world. Allow me to answer a majority of them with a few short sentences.

This galaxy is broken down into "zones" based on the "security" level assigned to each system by our local policing force, CONCORD. In "high sec", they patrol every system and cover every part of the vacuum within that system. Unwanted and unlawful acts of aggression are responded to with swift and decisive action taken upon the aggressor. In "low sec", CONCORD does not patrol. However, the main areas of travel, specifically stations and jump gates, are watched over by automated sentry guns that will engage unlawful aggressors. Outside of "high sec" and "low sec", the rule of law is simply "might makes right". This is the result of basic human nature and the fact that there are no established laws other than what the current occupants feel they are capable of enforcing.

Should you chose to reside in "high sec", you will be protected to the best of CONCORD's ability. Travelling beyond "high sec" places you at the possible mercy of your fellow capsuleers. Think of it as a lawless frontier.

Should you continue to desire to have your hand held and the snot wiped from your nose as you sniffle about unfair treatment, we recommend that you either return to "high sec", where CONCORD will do their best to baby you and give you a sense of security, in actual secured space. Or, should you wish to continue in null security space with the hopes of being protected from mean, nasty, evil pilots seeking to do you harm, we suggest that you make friends with some very powerful people.

In all of your endeavors, we wish you luck.

-Hwong

Translation: gtfo of null sec if you want to have your hand held and your ass wiped for you.

Fix Lag
Posted - 2011.08.19 22:54:00 - [9]
 

Originally by: CaldariCitizen19082011
0/10

Far far too obvious and not nearly amusing enough.

okst666
Posted - 2011.08.19 22:55:00 - [10]
 

A while back, my wife played ryzom...
they have something interesting there - a button to opt out pvp.
You cannot agress other players or be agressed by them. I think something like that could work in eve too.

Switching between the states of that option given every 24h.
Only in highsec of course and maybe only on the main account, to prevent unvulnerable hauler/support alts. If someone wants to pay for an indestructabe transport character..good for ccp.
PvP allways on, if wardec.



Marara Kovacs
Posted - 2011.08.19 23:01:00 - [11]
 

Originally by: okst666
A while back, my wife played ryzom...
they have something interesting there - a button to opt out pvp.
You cannot agress other players or be agressed by them. I think something like that could work in eve too.

Switching between the states of that option given every 24h.
Only in highsec of course and maybe only on the main account, to prevent unvulnerable hauler/support alts. If someone wants to pay for an indestructabe transport character..good for ccp.
PvP allways on, if wardec.





I have a much much better option that will keep everyone happy; if you dont want to ever pvp, go and play something else.

okst666
Posted - 2011.08.19 23:08:00 - [12]
 

But there is no mmog like eve without pvp.

Ccp might get rich, if they come up with a server where no pvp is possible. As an option. You do not have to like it.

Ryhss
Caldari
The Excecutorans
Posted - 2011.08.19 23:09:00 - [13]
 

Originally by: Sofia Bellard
Just like the title says; I should be able to focus on the task at hand instead of watching over my shoulder to see if there is some pathetic trying to sneak up on me.

Doing missions in low sec and null demand full attention or you will find yourself in hull from the mission rats. Why should I have to enlist a second person to watch local and spam the directional scanner because someone wants to push their PvP on me?

I didn't do anything to you so why do you want to start a fight?
I wholeheartedly agree with this statement.

Tippia
Caldari
Sunshine and Lollipops
Posted - 2011.08.19 23:13:00 - [14]
 

Originally by: okst666
A while back, my wife played ryzom...
they have something interesting there - a button to opt out pvp.
You cannot agress other players or be agressed by them. I think something like that could work in eve too.
No, it would not because PvP in EVE extends so far beyond simple combat, and is so integral to pretty much everything you do in this game, that you'd basically lock yourself out of the game if you did that.

A "no PvP" switch in EVE would have to have at least the following restrictions:
· You can obviously no longer lock any player ship.
· You can no longer activate any kind of AoE weaponry or module.
· You can no longer use the market, contracts or the trading window.
· You can no longer access or manage POSes and their services.
· You can no longer mine.
· You can no longer shoot rats.
· You can no longer open any kind of container in space.
· You can no longer use the on-board scanner or scan probes.
· You can no longer be in a fleet.
· You can no longer use salvagers.
· You can no longer access the industry interface.
· You can no longer access player-sovereign systems.
· You can no longer access free-floating permanent sites in space.
· …and probably many more that I can't think of now.

Without those restrictions, such a switch would be abused to hell and back and would interfere with the PvP portions of the game.


Oh, and as for the OP: no, you should not, because everything you do affects everyone else, and they need to be able to keep you from doing that.

Wu Tarot
Posted - 2011.08.19 23:16:00 - [15]
 

Originally by: Rubix Khamsi
stay in highsec.


and away from anywhere with lots (or any really) of people

Sofia Bellard
Posted - 2011.08.19 23:34:00 - [16]
 

High sec is dangerous too. Two people in Tempest battle ships blew up my Gila after we argued. They died from the police because they broke the law, so I fell better. I was only fit with low tech modules. I asked them why and they said they did it for the laughs out louds.

Now I don't mind other people from having fun,but when their fun interferes with my fun, then there is an issue.

Hicksimus
Gallente
Mom's Friendly Spaceship Company
Posted - 2011.08.19 23:43:00 - [17]
 

Creating a 1 day old alt to say this? GTFO troll.

malcovas Henderson
Posted - 2011.08.19 23:47:00 - [18]
 

If you cannot understand the concept of Eve. Then maybe you should go back to WoW

Tippia
Caldari
Sunshine and Lollipops
Posted - 2011.08.19 23:49:00 - [19]
 

Originally by: Sofia Bellard
High sec is dangerous too.
Yes. It's not meant to be safe. It's simply a place where aggression comes at a cost.
Quote:
Now I don't mind other people from having fun,but when their fun interferes with my fun, then there is an issue.
No, that is not an issue — it's what happens when you play in a multiplayer sandbox. If you don't want that, then a multiplayer sandbox game is simply not for you.

KFenn
Percussive Diplomacy
Posted - 2011.08.20 00:01:00 - [20]
 

Edited by: KFenn on 20/08/2011 00:01:26
Originally by: Sofia Bellard
Just like the title says; I should be able to focus on the task at hand instead of watching over my shoulder to see if there is some pathetic trying to sneak up on me.

Doing missions in low sec and null demand full attention or you will find yourself in hull from the mission rats. Why should I have to enlist a second person to watch local and spam the directional scanner because someone wants to push their PvP on me?

I didn't do anything to you so why do you want to start a fight?


This post is pure gold. Did you really expect a post like this not to get flamed? EVE is a PvP game. It is based around meaningful player interaction. And for me, violencing people's boats is one of such interactions. If you don't like this then go play something Singleplayer.

Thing is it's fun to hunt and kill people. And pirates stand to profit from it so why would we leave you alone? As for "I've done nothing to you", did you really think some E-Honour would save you?

Silly carebears.

TL;DR version:
Originally by: malcovas Henderson
If you cannot understand the concept of Eve. Then maybe you should go back to WoW

Lord Mudekai
Caldari
Caldari Provisions
Posted - 2011.08.20 00:09:00 - [21]
 

Honestly I think if EvE is supposed to be a PvP game then why do they have all these other activities/professions you can do instead of PvP? I think that if someone wants to mine til their head explodes then let them, they shouldnt have to be worried about some dumbass who thinks they should be pvping and not mining to force PvP upon them because they are not playing the game the way that they think they should be. If EvE is supposed to be a PvP only game then they need to remove everything else, mining, missioning, industry etc and just leave PvP. Let all the PvP'ers pay for the damn game and see how they like it when all the carebears leave(with all of their multiple accounts) and the whole of EvE comes crashing down because now theres no people/targets to shoot at that wont shoot back.

Azunai TheDefendr
Posted - 2011.08.20 00:12:00 - [22]
 

Truth is... you are never safe anywhere in eve. If I were a pirate I would go to high sec and grief any and every miner and hauler I could as long as I had the isk for the ships just for fun :D

The right to safe mining and industry is the same as saying you want double standerds. It is worthless raiding mission runners where they have nothing to loose except they're ships. And poping the ship alone is worthless because they're goal is isk and status with agents.

Miners and haulers have the most to loose and you can be sure to hit them where it will hurt them the most. Without an escort you might as well bend over and kiss your ass good by.

I am not a pirate. but going out of my way to ruin a nouther pilots day is what makes pirateing fun. Causeing others grief makes a pirate feel better lol

Mariko Musashi Hareka
Posted - 2011.08.20 00:17:00 - [23]
 

Well see theres another problem people whos only focus is to get their jollys off by ruining another persons game. It sickened me that an EvE player that had a very serious illness/handicap had posted on the forums to put his experience with EvE out there only to have a bunch of people to rip on him like he was a whining child. He even said that he would love to try to pvp but with his physical limitations could not do so even for a short time, and these people just tore into him just makes me sick how some people get their excitement by terrorizing a handicapped person just because he mines and doesnt pvp because he physical cant.

nubile slave
Posted - 2011.08.20 00:23:00 - [24]
 

4/10 for so many people biting on the Troll....


Tippia
Caldari
Sunshine and Lollipops
Posted - 2011.08.20 00:24:00 - [25]
 

Originally by: Lord Mudekai
Honestly I think if EvE is supposed to be a PvP game then why do they have all these other activities/professions you can do instead of PvP?
Because they are PvP too.

That is why EVE is a PvP game (and not just "supposed to"): because everything you do in this game is done in competition with other players. If you mine until your head explodes, then someone else will go without ore, because you took it all. Blowing you up to bring that competition to a grinding halt is an entirely valid way of getting you out of the way.
Quote:
If EvE is supposed to be a PvP only game then they need to remove everything else, mining, missioning, industry etc and just leave PvP.
And again, it already has removed everything else… well, nearly. There are exactly two things in this game that are not subject to PvP: clicking the "request mission" button and clicking the "complete mission" button. And those two activities are there because the biggest PvP arena of them all — the market — needs some ISK to grease its wheels.

You cannot play EVE without competing with other players. If you don't want them to compete back, you have to go somewhere else, because this game will not, and cannot provide the peace and quiet you are looking for.

Ingvar Angst
Amarr
Nasty Pope Holding Corp
Talocan United
Posted - 2011.08.20 00:30:00 - [26]
 

High sec is for carebearing, it's that simple. Low and null, and to a greater degree wormholes, are meant to be increasing risk/reward. In other words, not for carebearing.

Zag'mar Jurkar
Minmatar
Advent of the Blood Sun
Posted - 2011.08.20 00:45:00 - [27]
 

Edited by: Zag''mar Jurkar on 20/08/2011 00:45:49
And then everyone goes to null/low, grind missions, mine or anything, everyone doing it because it is what's bringing more money to the table, but then as everyone does it, all the loot you got from there start decreasing in price, lowering your incomes to a point where it isn't really much more profitable than hi-sec.

Lazrim
Posted - 2011.08.20 01:08:00 - [28]
 

Hopefully soon CCP will make a single player Eve game for OP and players like him, sort of like Morrowind. That way other people can't bother him while he's playing his game. Until then though when you walk into a game you play by the rules. If you can't hang you don't change the rules you either get better or you find something more to your skill level/liking.
No one has ever burned my crops or looted my farmhouse in Farmville. It's a good alternative for folks who cannot excel at Eve and like the whole building up thingy.

Henry Haphorn
Gallente
Posted - 2011.08.20 03:52:00 - [29]
 

Dear Sofia Bellard, assuming that's even your real main (which I doubt),

You obviously missed the point of what Eve is truly about. It is about survival of the fittest, cut-throat competition (of all levels), and adapting to your environment. You should have gotten that idea when CCP first posted trailers of capsuleers shredding each other to pieces, the Eve chronicles describing the violent nature of New Eden, etc. Now here you are posting your demands on how you like to mission run in piece with no one attacking you for no reason (in low-sec of all places).

If I were you, go play Guild Wars or something. At least there, you can carebear to your hearts content without fear of someone shooting at you. Here in Eve, we all know far too well that we live in the world of New Eden to do whatever it takes to not only survive but to also adapt and prosper. Those who refuse to adapt are left with two undesirable choices: get the hell out of Eve or suffer from the guns of our ships.

MizoSoop
Posted - 2011.08.20 07:58:00 - [30]
 

I think that miners should be allowed to force pvpers to mine. Turnabout is fair play. Then we'd see complaints like "a care bear forced me to abandon my pvp roam and mine for hours!" omg!


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