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Veldspaz
Posted - 2011.08.19 16:18:00 - [61]
 

Can we save the dev blogs for posts that actually include content or useful information? Thanks.

Black Dranzer
Caldari
Posted - 2011.08.19 16:25:00 - [62]
 

Well, a date is nice.

I shall remain cautiously pessimistic.

Tyme Xandr
Gallente
State Protectorate
Posted - 2011.08.19 16:33:00 - [63]
 

Originally by: Jada Maroo
Edited by: Jada Maroo on 19/08/2011 13:20:48
The ONLY new piece of information in that devblog is what we're not getting in Incarna 1.1 -- the other CQs.

So I'm calling it now: Almost all new content in Incarna 1.1 will be NEX crap. Just watch.

God what a total fail release Incarna has been. One let down after another. I can't believe they couldn't finish modelling 3 small rooms since its release.


The jumping to conclusions bandwagon, you must be one of those idiots who were shooting a statue due to jumping to conclusions.

Black Dranzer
Caldari
Posted - 2011.08.19 16:42:00 - [64]
 

Originally by: Tyme Xandr
The jumping to conclusions bandwagon, you must be one of those idiots who were shooting a statue due to jumping to conclusions.

You say that as if those conclusions were somehow incorrect. The "Fearless" letter may not have been an accurate portrayal of their immediate plans (as far as we know, anyway) but it still paints an ugly picture of the future that you'd have do be a damned moron to not see. CCP's "current plans" have a habit of changing awfully fast, and their recent direction does not fill me, or anybody else with the slightest semblance of pattern recognition, with confidence.

Furthermore, the prediction that the only new Incarna content in 1.1 will be NEX stuff is actually a pretty good judgment. What else could they do? We're not getting more quarters or establishments, so that leaves either no Incarna content, or money grabbing content. And so far, adding **** to their cash shop has been the one iterative thing that CCP has been REALLY interested in lately, or haven't you noticed the recent smaller patches?

I want to believe things will get better. But I'm not a fool. You shouldn't be, either.

Gemberslaafje
Vivicide
Posted - 2011.08.19 16:43:00 - [65]
 

Great, the new big patch will include more walking in stations

GIVE US SOMETHING TO SHOOT (at) - or build, or do something else except walking around in.

Now for the million dollar question:

Do you have any idea when the next content patch will be for - well, everything NOT incarna?

Xercodo
Amarr
Xovoni Directorate
Posted - 2011.08.19 16:46:00 - [66]
 

Originally by: Gemberslaafje
Great, the new big patch will include more walking in stations

GIVE US SOMETHING TO SHOOT (at) - or build, or do something else except walking around in.

Now for the million dollar question:

Do you have any idea when the next content patch will be for - well, everything NOT incarna?


that's what Winter is for Very Happy

Also of you can go back and find the posts, this Winter should also mark the end of :18 months: so I'm remaining hopeful of lots of little fixes for everything hehe.

Tyme Xandr
Gallente
State Protectorate
Posted - 2011.08.19 16:54:00 - [67]
 

Originally by: Black Dranzer
Originally by: Tyme Xandr
The jumping to conclusions bandwagon, you must be one of those idiots who were shooting a statue due to jumping to conclusions.

You say that as if those conclusions were somehow incorrect. The "Fearless" letter may not have been an accurate portrayal of their immediate plans (as far as we know, anyway) but it still paints an ugly picture of the future that you'd have do be a damned moron to not see. CCP's "current plans" have a habit of changing awfully fast, and their recent direction does not fill me, or anybody else with the slightest semblance of pattern recognition, with confidence.

Furthermore, the prediction that the only new Incarna content in 1.1 will be NEX stuff is actually a pretty good judgment. What else could they do? We're not getting more quarters or establishments, so that leaves either no Incarna content, or money grabbing content. And so far, adding **** to their cash shop has been the one iterative thing that CCP has been REALLY interested in lately, or haven't you noticed the recent smaller patches?

I want to believe things will get better. But I'm not a fool. You shouldn't be, either.


I don't have an issue with the NEX market personally. My character has that military jacket and the Odin's Eye. I didn't use real money to get them either.

When I look at the past few expansions there has been almost nothing that I have used from them. I don't do incursions, I don't do PI, I dont use the salvaging ship or whatever. I do however do wormholes and other activities in EVE Online as that has been whats kept me playing EVE Online since 2007.

As for Incarna, I only recently upgraded my computer (i7, CF, 16Gigs of ram, SataIII SSD, etc) and have been 'exploring' the CQ but I dont really care yet as it doesnt provide me with enough content ... however; I dont ***** about it because CCP has never charged me a dime for anything new they do. In fact I have spent almost nothing on EVE Online since I first started playing (Since I have bought PLEX throughout the last few years to pay for my accounts).

As more out of ship content is included I applaud them. I dont mind an all encompassing Sci Fi game. As new expansions come out that I dont even use I welcome as well. As for Pay 2 Win things ... none of those things have been projected. Even the Ishukone Watch Scorpion is just a Tech 1 scorpion with some sandy brown in it.

As for fixing bugs, that would be welcomed. And those type of things I get outspoken from. I dont suck CCPs wee-wee as I am a paying customer, but as far as I am concerned they provide me with a fun game that I enjoy consistently and even give me new stuff for free. Theyre doing alright in my books.

For constructing a whole new facet of EVE's sci fi world do we really want a company like CCP rushing it?

Freelancer117
Posted - 2011.08.19 16:59:00 - [68]
 

thx for the heads up guys,

i've been thinking about what would be a fun next feature for eve today at work (hehe, mind is dual boxing) and it suddenly appeared to my:

TERRAFORMING PLANETS ugh

you can spin that in so many directions, and the best thing is you can make it a small group effort to enhance cooperative gameplay like what incursions did for high sec and sov for null sec, maybe it could be the next best thing for low sec to ??


Amsterdam Conversations
Posted - 2011.08.19 17:03:00 - [69]
 

When will we see a devblog that contains more than 5 minute work?

Oh you won't answer anyway.

Tyme Xandr
Gallente
State Protectorate
Posted - 2011.08.19 17:08:00 - [70]
 

Originally by: Gemberslaafje
Great, the new big patch will include more walking in stations

GIVE US SOMETHING TO SHOOT (at) - or build, or do something else except walking around in.

Now for the million dollar question:

Do you have any idea when the next content patch will be for - well, everything NOT incarna?


Something related to combat is long over due, that I can agree with.

Desert Ice78
Gryphon River Industries
R-I-P
Posted - 2011.08.19 17:08:00 - [71]
 

Amazing. Could actually give Zulu's fail blog a run for its money in terms of uselessness.

We have no news, no content, and nothing to say....wonderful.

Black Dranzer
Caldari
Posted - 2011.08.19 17:11:00 - [72]
 

The date is new info, isn't it?

I mean, yeah, it's the kind of thing that could've been said in a sticky or a post on the forums, but it's still new info.

Esan Vartesa
East Khanid Trading
Khanid Trade Syndicate
Posted - 2011.08.19 17:28:00 - [73]
 


Fallout, dude, you don't respond to an attack by a customer, and you certainly NEVER tell them to 'watch their tone'.

That's just trolling for flames. You should know better.


Zirise
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
Posted - 2011.08.19 17:46:00 - [74]
 

You whiners are all the worst prima donnas ever.

Get the **** out already.

Asmodeus Et'Mort
Amarr
Imperial Academy
Posted - 2011.08.19 17:59:00 - [75]
 

This drivel just seems to be the way things are in this company. Honestly I have seen nothing from CCP since the heady days of revolution in June that demonstrates they have learned anything about customer service. The numbers on tranquility show a continued decline in players online and the forums continue to rage.

Honestly for me Incarna (which I actually started playing eve for two years ago and have waited for eagerly) has been a complete abject failure. I turned the cq off not cos of lag or performance issues but simply because the whole failure that it represents, it simply adds nothing to gameplay.

Theres no rage anymore, I really wanted CCP to prove me wrong I really wanted them to make me resub because Incarna was going to be awesome, its not is it, its ok I get it now it was all a marketing scam.

What do we get from Fallout when someone complains? sophistry about "summer" and a slap down about someones tone. Yeah great customer service.

So now we have the dissapearing act where the thread is ignored by CCP I call it the CCP Ostrich shuffle.

Xurr
Posted - 2011.08.19 18:14:00 - [76]
 

How about you give us ship spinning back and remove the CQ crap.


Salpun
Gallente
Paramount Commerce
Posted - 2011.08.19 18:17:00 - [77]
 

PAX is next week so give CCP a break for one more weekLaughing

While most of the news will be dust/ planet related. 1.1 will come out the day after so we will get patch notes maybe Friday after the next mass test. Then we can start complaining again.

This current patch is allot of Gridlocks work. Hopefully 1.2 will be all the BFF work that has been stacking up and everyone will have plenty of time to complain about the ship balanceing as it shows up on SisiTwisted Evil or I could be wrong and they will upload alot of the team BFF stuff next week before the mass test but I doute it. As the new forums are suppost to go offical then and BFF stuff will not be introduced until the new forums are up and usuable for the upcoming discusions

Mikel Laurentson
Posted - 2011.08.19 18:18:00 - [78]
 

Originally by: Skippermonkey
you padded that dev blog out well.

Its pretty much all filler and no content

Or were you subtly telling us that nothing is currently being worked on because everyone is on holiday?


I have a feeling it's this.

There's a terrible silver lining: blog has no content, but at least CCP admits it wasn't in the office for the last month which is why the summer release is still incomplete, two weeks from september.

CCP appears to have Cancelled Content Provision.

Phelan Votronski
Posted - 2011.08.19 18:27:00 - [79]
 

Edited by: Phelan Votronski on 19/08/2011 18:35:46
Originally by: CCP Fallout

We did not provide a date on when the racial CQs would be released outside of saying this summer.



It should be pretty obvious by now that they're not going to come this summer though. Also originally the CQs were supposed to come June, 21st so that excuse is really, really lame. Hope it made you feel better about yourself though. :)

Originally by: CCP Fallout

And please watch your tone. There are much better ways to voice your displeasure :D


Seeing how it's going to be ignored one way or the other: no, not really.

Even now that people don't expect a lot from you guys anymore you still manage to disappoint. Well done! I hope you are proud of your work and continue to strive for your best even if it could be matched by a 5year old.

Asmodeus Et'Mort
Amarr
Imperial Academy
Posted - 2011.08.19 18:31:00 - [80]
 

Originally by: Phelan Votronski
Originally by: CCP Fallout

We did not provide a date on when the racial CQs would be released outside of saying this summer.



It should be pretty obvious by now that they're not going to come this summer though. Also originally the CQs were supposed to come June, 21st so that excuse is really, really lame. Hope it made you feel better about yourself though. :)

Originally by: CCP Fallout

And please watch your tone. There are much better ways to voice your displeasure :D




Seeing how it's going to be ignored one way or the other: no, not really.

Even now that people don't expect a lot from you guys anymore you still manage to disappoint. Well done! I hope you are proud of your work and continue to strive for your best even if it could be matched by a 5year old.


Thats it isnt it, incarna has been one dissapintment after another.

Rrama Ratamnim
Posted - 2011.08.19 18:38:00 - [81]
 

Nice try at communications i suppose... But honestly from the first few lines i saw this was gonna cause people to be upset...

#1 no real info on 1.1 just "watch for the release notes" ... CCP wtf you went from Incursions that had a nice page with the outlined plans that really made people happy that was updated so often... to nothing? WTF in between that you told us we'd be getting more information NOT LESS!

#2 no real out look on timeframe for establishments or what all is being improved on the current CQ.

it honestly seemed like a fluff piece to just say "see we posted a devblog"...

Honestly besides the security blog which wasnt exactly exhilerating, the communication has been just insanely lackluster and depressing...

Where the heck is the incarna goals and line for this year, when we should be getting ready to hear about the winter expansion goals, we're still technically waiting on the Incarna point releases that matter?

The info and movement following incarna 1.0 has been glacial from player perspective.

Elsa Nietchize
Posted - 2011.08.19 18:42:00 - [82]
 

Don't worry guys. The few people still at the office at CCP this summer are diligently working on an exciting new feature. Coming Soon™, you'll be able to use Arum to change your door!

BtodaC
24th Imperial Crusade
Posted - 2011.08.19 18:45:00 - [83]
 

Edited by: BtodaC on 19/08/2011 18:47:06
Quote:
Nature abhors a vacuum

CCP Zulu 2011.05.25

And players abhor the information vacuum in this blog. There are a 11 days before this patch but you still dont tell us what it will probably contain.
Seriously, are there still no more CQ's ready for release?
Anyone else feeling that CCP used to produce much more content with far fewer employees?

Mors Magne
Astral Adventure
Posted - 2011.08.19 18:51:00 - [84]
 

"Establishments" to me means "Pub"! Yes! Very Happy

Dani Leone
Gallente
Positively Idle
Posted - 2011.08.19 18:54:00 - [85]
 

Content free Devblogs are always disappointing.

Goparu Prdc3r
Caldari
SILICON LOTUS
Posted - 2011.08.19 19:10:00 - [86]
 

Edited by: Goparu Prdc3r on 19/08/2011 19:10:55
Originally by: Dani Leone
Content free Devblogs are always disappointing.


This

I would've prefered "not so fancy" graphics just to be able to play incarna with a reasonable ETA, CCP is spending way too much time on this, speaks one who wants his legs. but not at this price.

Razin
The xDEATHx Squadron
Legion of xXDEATHXx
Posted - 2011.08.19 19:23:00 - [87]
 

Originally by: Xurr
How about you give us ship spinning back and remove the CQ crap.


I'd go with just having the ship spinning back.

As long as I don't have to get out of my ship they can fiddle with their CQ for as long as they want.

NiM Cal
Posted - 2011.08.19 19:28:00 - [88]
 

Good to hear the old cyno effect and engine trails will be back in 1.1. A good devblog, would read again.

Black Dranzer
Caldari
Posted - 2011.08.19 19:31:00 - [89]
 

On the one hand, people are right in that this dev blog has no content, but on the other hand.. well, what the hell do you people want?

I mean, yes, we want results and optional CQ and FIS improvements and all that jazz, but that kind of thing doesn't exactly happen overnight. They have two options: Communicate what they can (which is not much, simply because they don't have much to say) or communicate nothing at all. Considering that we *****ed at them incessantly for better communication, I'm not sure what most of you are asking for.

Okay, this dev blog is content free. What do you want to hear, then? Don't just complain about how obnoxious CCP is, tell them what you'd prefer to be hearing about. If you just want results, well, results take time.

Chrissyne
Posted - 2011.08.19 19:50:00 - [90]
 

OP should have his thread locked for lack of content.


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