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Kurama Bingyi
Amarr
Ministry of War
Posted - 2011.08.19 07:22:00 - [1]
 

I don't consider myself an avid EVE Online player, but I loved it enough to have stuck with it for the past two years (Well, about six months, total, of playing time with a break in between two three-month periods) because it was, essentially, my Sci-Fi "fix."

I'm quitting because I was scammed. Big time, by an unnamed player claiming to be a part of an unnamed corporation that was "interested" in recruiting me. It seemed legitimate enough - he was a part of the corporation, they had a registration website, and an application process. I was a bit wary, at first, because I didn't want to give a large amount of my ISK as a "Security Deposit," but I wanted to be a part of a corporation to help me in this game, and this guy had - in his profile - that he was a part of one large corporation, that was a part of an even larger alliance.

I told you that story to tell you this - about several months ago, a friend of mine was quitting the game, and so gave me whatever he had left before deleting both of his characters and unsubscribing. I spent most of what he had, and had about 227 million ISK remaining (He gave me a lot, and I had a decent amount just from doing missions and working the market). Now, I asked in the Recruitment chat about a potential corporation that would be willing to take a 10 million SP pilot that wanted to try out PvP - and lo and behold, I get said person from said large corporation asking me to join his. I go through the process, which asked for a security deposit of 150 million ISK. I was a bit wary, at first, because I didn't want to part with my money - but the guy seemed legitimate enough, so I paid him the 150 million ISK and contracted many of my ships (Two Wolf Assault Ships - one for PvE and the other for PvP - a Hyperion Battleship, a Drake Cruiser, and a Gallente T3 Strategic Cruiser. I only had a Tristran remaining for travel.) and he assured me that after this process, I would get transport to the station and I would be contacted again to join.

That was about a month ago. I never heard back from him again, and even though he was a member of the corporation I wanted to join, they later pointed out to me while I was "petitioning" in their channel that I was scammed out of everything I had. I had 70 million ISK to my name, and I lost all of my important ships.

I know what you're going to say, and I don't want to hear it. I was an idiot for believing it, but it drove me right off of the edge. I unsubscribed just a few minutes ago, furious that everything I worked hard on (maybe not so much) was lost. Maybe I'll come back sometime in the future and be smarter about who I interact with, but for now I'm done. Scamming may be a legitimate gameplay mechanic, but because it's happened to me in a big way I just don't feel the desire to be on EVE, anymore.

Nykky Syxx
Posted - 2011.08.19 07:23:00 - [2]
 

Caring - we don't

Written Word
Written Word's Tax Haven
Posted - 2011.08.19 07:25:00 - [3]
 

Don't trust people

Ifly Uwalk
Caldari
Concentrated Evil
Posted - 2011.08.19 07:26:00 - [4]
 

Goon recruitment scam best recruitment scam.

Can I have, uh, the rest of your stuff?

Serpents smile
Posted - 2011.08.19 07:28:00 - [5]
 

Originally by: Kurama Bingyi
I was a bit wary, at first, because I didn't want to give a large amount of my ISK as a "Security Deposit,"


Braaaaaaaaaaiiiiiinz!

Use them next time.Confused

You're leaving because you made a mistake. So what. We all make mistakes. Learn from it, suk it up, be a man, and move on.

Kiran
Minmatar
Knights of Azrael
Anti-Social Outcast
Posted - 2011.08.19 07:30:00 - [6]
 

Ok I want to ask you something now and dont get mad.
If someone phones you up and asks for your name, national insurance number and bank account details are you going to give it to them? If the answer is yes, then you deserve to loose your Identity and your money. Same goes with Eve, its not the games fault its your own faillings to know that most people in the world just want to screw you over.

Bashing over with.

But dont let this event colour your preception of the average Eve player. There are many who are ok and will actualy help you. I have been in your posistion where I have lost everything I own to a gate camp and been down to flying a reaper with no isk. I learned from my mistake and become a better player for it.

Jint Hikaru
OffWorld Exploration Inc
Posted - 2011.08.19 07:35:00 - [7]
 

Sounds like Goonwaffle or whatever....

Did you even bother to research this corp before handing over your ISK and ships?

To be honest, nobody cares, people get scammed all the time in Eve, its part of what makes Eve different from the other MMOs. This is one of the ways a player gets 'experience' in eve... not killing 1000 Orcs or turning in 30 Goblin teeth.... its learning from your experiences in the game to become a better player!

You have two choices:

Learn, become a better player.

Cry, quit, whatever.

Good luck in whatever you do, if you move to a different game I hope you find one that suits your playstyle and that you are happy with.

Fly safe....

Pesky LaRue
Brotherhood Of Fallen Angels
Etherium Cartel
Posted - 2011.08.19 07:36:00 - [8]
 

I hate it that this thread made me horny.

Wait. Wait. I take that back. This thread is awesome.

Can you give us any more details? And quickly, please.

Klandi
Consortium of stella Technologies
Posted - 2011.08.19 07:43:00 - [9]
 

Since you have unsubed, this is for all the other people that will look at this post (and either bathe in the delicious tears, or facepalm)

If it is too good to be true - then it is and you should walk away.

If you are asked to part with cash (real or on-line) ALWAYS question it - then walk away

If you are giving your ships to a third party - use a courier contract with collateral requirement.

Experience is made up of many mistakes. If you lose cash, look on it as a payment for your naivety and carelessness and move on.

Wa'roun
Quantum Cats Syndicate
Posted - 2011.08.19 07:58:00 - [10]
 

Originally by: Kurama Bingyi
he was a part of one large corporation, that was a part of an even larger alliance.




Sounds like a quote from a certain CCP video.

Thornat
Posted - 2011.08.19 08:05:00 - [11]
 

Seriously dude.. I feel for you but that was just blatently a scam and very naive of you. Rather than quitting I would chop it down to a lesson learned the hard way. Would you give someone your car keys and the cash in your bank account that you barely know in real life?

This example should be sticked in the new citizens forum or something.

The golden rule of Eve is simple, don't EVER give ANYONE ANYTHING for ANY service... period unless you have firm confirmation and built up a relationship with that person and know with 100% assurance that you can trust them.

Personally I love Eve for its uncanny ability to include mechanics that allow me to be a criminal. Stealing from people, killing them etc.. But these sort of "chat channel" scams and stuff like that I find to be a bit out of the realm of good gameplay. I mean if your running a mining operation and a cloaked ship comes into the systems, pulls up to you and than has all his fleet buddies jump in on you stealing your stuff and possibily poping you.. to me thats gameplay. Its their operation vs. your operation. Both players have ways to defend themselves and their is clear mechanics and tactics involved that make the encounter interesting. Sure you can get screwed but at least its within the realm of the games gameplay.

Scamming a guy out of ISK and ships through a chat channel.. to me this should be petitionable. Its just very unsportsmen like.

Ymirus
Minmatar
Fly Drunk
Fatal Ascension
Posted - 2011.08.19 08:07:00 - [12]
 

'I didn't think and lost everything and now I'm mad and quitting the game because it's easier than accepting I made a mistake'

Great attitude, will get you far in life.

Igualmentedos
Caldari
Posted - 2011.08.19 08:08:00 - [13]
 

GAWWWWWWWWWWD when will people stop making these ridiculous topics!?!?

Who gives a flying **** that you decided to leave?

I mean... damn this **** is getting old.

Disturbed Pilot
Posted - 2011.08.19 08:15:00 - [14]
 

Sounds like a good excuse for you to buy yourself some GTC's, and of course learn the lesson that lots of people learned in life or in game, can't trust everyone.

but with your play habbits you don't sound as hooked as I am to the game, so good luck to you...

Kai Jyokoroi
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2011.08.19 08:23:00 - [15]
 

OK goons, who was this? It wasn't me

Jose Black
Amarr
Royal Amarr Institute
Posted - 2011.08.19 08:25:00 - [16]
 

Posting on the forum while still enraged is never a good idea.


Making mistakes just happens. Not too bad if you learn from it. You lost quite a bit but nothing you can't work up to in a reasonable amount of time.

Unsubscribing is a decision you could easily revert and taking a break might help you to think about if Eve is really your thing.

Posting enraged on the Forum however is something you can't revert. You have that mark on your character for as long as it exists. And generally people don't care that much about everyones quitting story.

Ms Everdeen Stroker
Posted - 2011.08.19 08:33:00 - [17]
 

Originally by: Kai Jyokoroi
OK goons, who was this? It wasn't me


lol nice oneRazz

CaldariCitizen19082011
Caldari
In Praise Of Shadows
Posted - 2011.08.19 08:49:00 - [18]
 

I see it's time for goon attention seeking thread # 232423420274509287224

Efraya
Minmatar
Posted - 2011.08.19 08:57:00 - [19]
 

I'd ask for your stuff, but you don't have any, HA!

Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
Posted - 2011.08.19 09:38:00 - [20]
 

Originally by: Kurama Bingyi
I'm quitting because I was scammed.

Uh... bye ? Or maybe "see you later". When you get a bit thicker skin, or at least develop a bit of healthy paranoia.

Ciar Meara
Amarr
Virtus Vindice
Posted - 2011.08.19 09:39:00 - [21]
 

You do realise that being dumb doesn't go away just because you quit eve?

Bruce Kemp
Minmatar
Skull's Reloaded.
Posted - 2011.08.19 09:42:00 - [22]
 

Good, **** off,

eve is a better place without you.

Singeabooty Raj
Marcabian 5th Invasion Fleet
HYDRA RELOADED
Posted - 2011.08.19 09:52:00 - [23]
 

OP you get scammed, cry about it and mention quiting yet use a quote from Conan the Barbarian in your sig which mentions crushing enemies and taking their goods lol. Very Happy

Suppen Kasper
Posted - 2011.08.19 10:13:00 - [24]
 

ok SOMEONE pls explain me why ANYONE would pay a "security deposit" to a corp u want to join ?

Marchocias
Posted - 2011.08.19 10:17:00 - [25]
 

Edited by: Marchocias on 19/08/2011 10:19:49
Originally by: Kurama Bingyi
[...]so I paid him the 150 million ISK and contracted many of my ships (Two Wolf Assault Ships - one for PvE and the other for PvP - a Hyperion Battleship, a Drake Cruiser, and a Gallente T3 Strategic Cruiser. I only had a Tristran remaining for travel.)


The bold bit made me giggle.
The italic bit made me choke!

10/10

Sometimes I think CCP ought to make Kitchen Sinks a tradable commodity.

Thelodas
Gallente
Aegis Evolution
Posted - 2011.08.19 10:31:00 - [26]
 

Originally by: Suppen Kasper
ok SOMEONE pls explain me why ANYONE would pay a "security deposit" to a corp u want to join ?


This, I mean seriously...the only pay to play here should be between you and CCP

Cryissa
Caldari
Caldari Navy Operations
Posted - 2011.08.19 10:32:00 - [27]
 

Kurama Bingyi I hope you haven't quit yet.

I have played since 2003 in different forms and have seen it all.

I would like to offer you a life line to stay and show to you that good does exist within EvE. I would be willing to help you a great deal if only you get in touch with me in game. I play London GMT time.

Please come and listen to what I have to say before you go.

Cryissa





Originally by: Kurama Bingyi
I don't consider myself an avid EVE Online player, but I loved it enough to have stuck with it for the past two years (Well, about six months, total, of playing time with a break in between two three-month periods) because it was, essentially, my Sci-Fi "fix."

I'm quitting because I was scammed. Big time, by an unnamed player claiming to be a part of an unnamed corporation that was "interested" in recruiting me. It seemed legitimate enough - he was a part of the corporation, they had a registration website, and an application process. I was a bit wary, at first, because I didn't want to give a large amount of my ISK as a "Security Deposit," but I wanted to be a part of a corporation to help me in this game, and this guy had - in his profile - that he was a part of one large corporation, that was a part of an even larger alliance.

I told you that story to tell you this - about several months ago, a friend of mine was quitting the game, and so gave me whatever he had left before deleting both of his characters and unsubscribing. I spent most of what he had, and had about 227 million ISK remaining (He gave me a lot, and I had a decent amount just from doing missions and working the market). Now, I asked in the Recruitment chat about a potential corporation that would be willing to take a 10 million SP pilot that wanted to try out PvP - and lo and behold, I get said person from said large corporation asking me to join his. I go through the process, which asked for a security deposit of 150 million ISK. I was a bit wary, at first, because I didn't want to part with my money - but the guy seemed legitimate enough, so I paid him the 150 million ISK and contracted many of my ships (Two Wolf Assault Ships - one for PvE and the other for PvP - a Hyperion Battleship, a Drake Cruiser, and a Gallente T3 Strategic Cruiser. I only had a Tristran remaining for travel.) and he assured me that after this process, I would get transport to the station and I would be contacted again to join.

That was about a month ago. I never heard back from him again, and even though he was a member of the corporation I wanted to join, they later pointed out to me while I was "petitioning" in their channel that I was scammed out of everything I had. I had 70 million ISK to my name, and I lost all of my important ships.

I know what you're going to say, and I don't want to hear it. I was an idiot for believing it, but it drove me right off of the edge. I unsubscribed just a few minutes ago, furious that everything I worked hard on (maybe not so much) was lost. Maybe I'll come back sometime in the future and be smarter about who I interact with, but for now I'm done. Scamming may be a legitimate gameplay mechanic, but because it's happened to me in a big way I just don't feel the desire to be on EVE, anymore.

Nebula Terron
Amarr
Wolf's in Sheep's Clothing
Posted - 2011.08.19 11:16:00 - [28]
 

Originally by: Thelodas
Originally by: Suppen Kasper
ok SOMEONE pls explain me why ANYONE would pay a "security deposit" to a corp u want to join ?


This, I mean seriously...the only pay to play here should be between you and CCP


Ok he made a mistake with the "security deposit" that's fine it happens, BUT then he contracts all his ships to a random guy who convos him, NOW that is "unusual".

My Postman
Posted - 2011.08.19 11:29:00 - [29]
 

I canīt believe, that the "goonies recruiting scam" is still working, at least itīs here for years. OP must be the only one not knowing about. Now, as the last one not knowing about is gone, what will they do?

Jamaican Herbsman
I Love You Mary Jane
Posted - 2011.08.19 11:39:00 - [30]
 

That is what I love about EVE. Steep learning curve killing off a player once again. Only the strongest survive.


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