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Azelor Delaria
Caldari
We Are So Troubled Everyone Runs Screaming
Posted - 2011.08.19 05:35:00 - [1]
 

I'm not providing proof, because to be honest, there is none. However, members of the corporation can vouch for what I am about to say.

The character iTokeVeldspar is an AWOXer. At 0455 I responded to a corpmate's call for help in Botane. Apparently, iToke had engaged him in a mission and was killing his Proteus. Finding out he had RR, I decided to bring my Navy Scorpion for the DPS. Landing on the mission site, I was on top of the aggressor and engaged. Scrammed, webbed, and being shot at, I was breaking his neutral RR.

Then he dropped corporation in space. There was no aggression countdown against him or warning about what was going on, just CONCORD showing up to pop our Rifter, Proteus, and Navy Scorpion.

Admittedly, the loss of a 1-billion ISK Navy Scorpion is painful, but what's frustrating is the exploit used to drop corp in space when no CEO or director is on.

CaldariCitizen19082011
Caldari
In Praise Of Shadows
Posted - 2011.08.19 05:46:00 - [2]
 

Are you telling me that despite him being aggressed to you 3, he dropped corp and you then got concorded, without any sort of warning?

Azelor Delaria
Caldari
We Are So Troubled Everyone Runs Screaming
Posted - 2011.08.19 05:47:00 - [3]
 

Edited by: Azelor Delaria on 19/08/2011 05:49:26
Originally by: Jemima Puddle****
Are you telling me that despite him being aggressed to you 3, he dropped corp and you then got concorded, without any sort of warning?


This is, in fact, what happened. Trust me, we're still going' WTF" as well.

EDIT: Let me rephrase: The three of us had engaged him. He had not engaged back from what I can tell. On top of this, he appears to have "corp hopped" from Ack-Ack into another player-owned corporation called Xanthan Corp (or something similar), bypassing any NPC corporation.

AtheistOfFail
AoF Lottery Services
Posted - 2011.08.19 06:10:00 - [4]
 

Report it, if he dropped corp in space, it's an exploit. You are supposed to dock to be able to change corps.

Stroumfita
Posted - 2011.08.19 06:12:00 - [5]
 

Maybe he has an alt.... that is CEO on the other corporation and when you aggress he has already an application to his own corp so he logs the CEO alt and accept the application?

I'm not sure if you can make this action while a member that has apply to your corp is in space but this is what I first thought about.


Cannibal Kane
Kane's Terrorist
Posted - 2011.08.19 06:33:00 - [6]
 

That would be it.

Before he undocked he would have submitted an app into a new corp. Engaged your Protues, you guys come and help he tank long enough to de-aggro. And then leaves corp by having the ceo of the other corp accept his app. And in swoops concord to safe him from your Evil weapons.

It is an exploit since you are only allowed to do that with a session change and therefore you can petition it.

iTokeVeldspar
Posted - 2011.08.19 06:33:00 - [7]
 

yall were shooting me 3 on 1 not fair *******s

Cannibal Kane
Kane's Terrorist
Posted - 2011.08.19 06:41:00 - [8]
 

Originally by: iTokeVeldspar
yall were shooting me 3 on 1 not fair *******s



Quoting since that reply is just epic...

Tasiv Deka
Amarr
The Baseborn Syndicate
Posted - 2011.08.19 06:49:00 - [9]
 

Originally by: Cannibal Kane
Originally by: iTokeVeldspar
yall were shooting me 3 on 1 not fair *******s



Quoting since that reply is just epic...



isnt it just

Evolution1979
Posted - 2011.08.19 07:00:00 - [10]
 

Originally by: Tasiv Deka
Originally by: Cannibal Kane
Originally by: iTokeVeldspar
yall were shooting me 3 on 1 not fair *******s



Quoting since that reply is just epic...



isnt it just


I love this guy allready Very Happy

Sutskop
PILSGESCHWADER
Monkey Circus
Posted - 2011.08.19 08:00:00 - [11]
 

http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=10414641 for proof.
I hope they ban him for a while too.

Panda Name
Amarr
Imperial Academy
Posted - 2011.08.19 09:28:00 - [12]
 

while i do not approve of the corp changing tactic, i find myself in support of the toker of veldspar. look at that mail. look at those rails on that proteus. the horror.

Awoxina Dojona
Posted - 2011.08.19 10:49:00 - [13]
 

Originally by: Azelor Delaria
I'm not providing proof, because to be honest, there is none. However, members of the corporation can vouch for what I am about to say.

The character iTokeVeldspar is an AWOXer. At 0455 I responded to a corpmate's call for help in Botane. Apparently, iToke had engaged him in a mission and was killing his Proteus. Finding out he had RR, I decided to bring my Navy Scorpion for the DPS. Landing on the mission site, I was on top of the aggressor and engaged. Scrammed, webbed, and being shot at, I was breaking his neutral RR.

Then he dropped corporation in space. There was no aggression countdown against him or warning about what was going on, just CONCORD showing up to pop our Rifter, Proteus, and Navy Scorpion.

Admittedly, the loss of a 1-billion ISK Navy Scorpion is painful, but what's frustrating is the exploit used to drop corp in space when no CEO or director is on.



THIS JUST IN!

Another tasty Awoxing hits Eve Online... Many bear tears shed....

More at 10..
BAck to you Ron..

Darius III
Caldari
Interstellar eXodus
BricK sQuAD.
Posted - 2011.08.19 11:15:00 - [14]
 

I am deeply saddened to learn that after so much together, this scum has betrayed your trust. What a truly awful person he must be-to turn on his friends like this. I am certain that I speak for all of crime and punishment when I say that we will help you rebuild. I can offer you short term loans or logistical support, bringing you tower mods and other things to help you recover.

If there is anything you would like for us to do-just ask in this thread and the denizens of crime and punishment will come to your aid dear friend! The last time that someone had this done, the outpouring of ISK, support and assistance was overwhelming to the victim corp. They said they got more back than they lost initially. So please do not hesitate if you need our help-thats what we are here for.Thats how I got elected CSM alt.-by helping people-and I am glad to assist whenever I can, as are the rest of the C&P community as a whole.

In closing, I would like to say please do not let this make you more suspicious of people that join. Don't let this one bad apple ruin your trust of fine internet spaceship pilots everywhere. While you may have been tricked this once-it doesnt mean the next guy is there to rip you off! D3

Jint Hikaru
OffWorld Exploration Inc
Posted - 2011.08.19 12:12:00 - [15]
 

Oh, and because it hasn't been said yet...

Who would let someone called iTokeVeldspar in their Corp.

P0TAT0
Posted - 2011.08.19 12:39:00 - [16]
 

I for one do not condone such behavior YARRRR!!

Soi Mala
Whacky Waving Inflatable Flailing Arm Tubemen
Posted - 2011.08.19 14:16:00 - [17]
 

Edited by: Soi Mala on 19/08/2011 14:16:42
I support AWOXing, infact i love it.

But dropping corp in space to fool aggro mechanics is an exploit, this guy is lame.



Edit: jemima, your sig is the best I've ever seen.




Azelor Delaria
Caldari
We Are So Troubled Everyone Runs Screaming
Posted - 2011.08.19 15:56:00 - [18]
 

Edited by: Azelor Delaria on 19/08/2011 16:00:52
Originally by: Darius III
I am deeply saddened to learn that after so much together, this scum has betrayed your trust. What a truly awful person he must be-to turn on his friends like this. I am certain that I speak for all of crime and punishment when I say that we will help you rebuild. I can offer you short term loans or logistical support, bringing you tower mods and other things to help you recover.

If there is anything you would like for us to do-just ask in this thread and the denizens of crime and punishment will come to your aid dear friend! The last time that someone had this done, the outpouring of ISK, support and assistance was overwhelming to the victim corp. They said they got more back than they lost initially. So please do not hesitate if you need our help-thats what we are here for.Thats how I got elected CSM alt.-by helping people-and I am glad to assist whenever I can, as are the rest of the C&P community as a whole.

In closing, I would like to say please do not let this make you more suspicious of people that join. Don't let this one bad apple ruin your trust of fine internet spaceship pilots everywhere. While you may have been tricked this once-it doesnt mean the next guy is there to rip you off! D3


I hate you Darius. Oh so much.

And then I love you and vote for you for CSM. =/

Anyways, having played this game for a while, I can take a good AWOXxing. In fact, I have participated in a few in my day, and I'm not complaining about the green-on-green. The title may be misleading though. What I'm warning people about is that Toke uses an exploit to draw in CONCORD to kill people.

Gibbo3771
Posted - 2011.08.19 16:59:00 - [19]
 

cant leave corp when your in space so your talking the biggest load of fukin ****e, admit the rats killed you.

Jason Hardwick
Posted - 2011.08.19 17:04:00 - [20]
 

well tbh cant say you havent earned it sucks for you lol Laughing

Zeke926
Caldari
Vengeance Imperium
Federal Republic
Posted - 2011.08.20 01:15:00 - [21]
 

Originally by: Gibbo3771
cant leave corp when your in space so your talking the biggest load of fukin ****e, admit the rats killed you.

Yes you can, you just can't be kicked out of a corp while in space.

penifSMASH
ElitistOps
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2011.08.20 02:00:00 - [22]
 

ITokeVeldspar is my hero

Kalen Vox
Veyr
The Veyr Collective
Posted - 2011.08.20 03:00:00 - [23]
 

Even if he did change corp mid-fight (and I don't know if that's possible from my own experience), he should have had a personal aggression countdown with everyone who was shooting him at the time, so, even if he changed corp, there should have been no concord involved.

That's the theory anyway...

War Kitten
Panda McLegion
Posted - 2011.08.20 11:18:00 - [24]
 

Confirming that this is indeed the petition submission mechanism.

GMs read C&P all the time, looking for trolls petitions to answer.

Istyn
Tactical Knightmare
Posted - 2011.08.20 17:27:00 - [25]
 

Originally by: Kalen Vox
Even if he did change corp mid-fight (and I don't know if that's possible from my own experience), he should have had a personal aggression countdown with everyone who was shooting him at the time, so, even if he changed corp, there should have been no concord involved.

That's the theory anyway...


He would have de-aggressed before the app was accepted, so he no longer had an aggression countdown and they were only legally able to shoot at him as he was in their corp.

Once the app was accepted, it was no longer legal and surprise concordokken.

iTokeVeldspar
Posted - 2011.08.20 21:21:00 - [26]
 

wom wom wom do do do

me playing the worlds smallest violen

TEARS R FUN

and u shot me first dont lie u nasty pyrites

Azelor Delaria
Caldari
We Are So Troubled Everyone Runs Screaming
Posted - 2011.08.20 21:24:00 - [27]
 

Originally by: Istyn
Originally by: Kalen Vox
Even if he did change corp mid-fight (and I don't know if that's possible from my own experience), he should have had a personal aggression countdown with everyone who was shooting him at the time, so, even if he changed corp, there should have been no concord involved.

That's the theory anyway...


He would have de-aggressed before the app was accepted, so he no longer had an aggression countdown and they were only legally able to shoot at him as he was in their corp.

Once the app was accepted, it was no longer legal and surprise concordokken.


As explained by the GM, this is what happened, and it's considered an exploit since you are required to be docked when joining or leaving a corporation. Doing it in space in order to "surprise" a target (war target or corp member) is considered an exploit and is a bannable offense.

All members were given full refunds of ships and modules lost.

I likegirls
Minmatar
Posted - 2011.08.20 23:18:00 - [28]
 

Confirming I am the butt pirate that tricked him.

Darius III
Caldari
Interstellar eXodus
BricK sQuAD.
Posted - 2011.08.22 02:45:00 - [29]
 

Originally by: Azelor Delaria

As explained by the GM, this is what happened, and it's considered an exploit since you are required to be docked when joining or leaving a corporation. Doing it in space in order to "surprise" a target (war target or corp member) is considered an exploit and is a bannable offense.

All members were given full refunds of ships and modules lost.


Glad it got sorted out brother. Interesting mechanic-too bad you never get to know if there was punitive action taken. Keep fighting the good fight-D3


 

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