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Awoxina Dojona
Posted - 2011.08.18 11:40:00 - [1]
 

`I am leaning toward Hound for the sole reason i prefer to have minmatar frigs to 5 instead of caldari [ so i can also fly Jaguars]

what is your pref ship of choice between the two and why?

Captain Sage
Hole Spectors
E.Y
Posted - 2011.08.18 11:44:00 - [2]
 

Hound. Better slot layout, easy (ish) to fit and does explosive damage - Just my reasons.

I think the Hound is generally considered the best SB by most, mainly because of the slot layout I believe.

ChromeStriker
Posted - 2011.08.18 11:52:00 - [3]
 

Edited by: ChromeStriker on 18/08/2011 11:52:56

To a degree it depends on what you want to do with it. id say the manti is better for general ratting/missions, and that crazy 'im going to stay on grid and shoot at people' type of stuff (due to more mid slots).
Whilst the Hound would be better for the more traditional bomber tricks. better fitting, speed ect

Pinky Denmark
The Cursed Navy
Important Internet Spaceship League
Posted - 2011.08.18 12:40:00 - [4]
 

The Manticore is a better bomber in my opinion (tons of cpu), but I usually fly Hound because I find the explosive damage and the agility much more handy. Also the 4 medslots only really help you doing solo. Don't think you can make an effecient fit with 3 BCS on a Hound though...

rylia Crestfall
Posted - 2011.08.18 15:49:00 - [5]
 

Edited by: rylia Crestfall on 18/08/2011 15:49:28
Originally by: Pinky Denmark
The Manticore is a better bomber in my opinion (tons of cpu), but I usually fly Hound because I find the explosive damage and the agility much more handy. Also the 4 medslots only really help you doing solo. Don't think you can make an effecient fit with 3 BCS on a Hound though...


I would disagree. For solo purpose the best ship is the purifier > hound > manticore/nemesis
for small gang warfare it depends what your fleet needs.
DPS + some ewar = hound
ewar + some DPS = manticore

and with ewar I mean target painters and dampeners.

due to the slot layout you can always get more dps out of a hound and purifier then a manticore & nemesis and the fact that they can do EM or explosive damage.


Grimpak
Gallente
Midnight Elites
Echelon Rising
Posted - 2011.08.18 17:39:00 - [6]
 

Originally by: rylia Crestfall
Edited by: rylia Crestfall on 18/08/2011 15:49:28
Originally by: Pinky Denmark
The Manticore is a better bomber in my opinion (tons of cpu), but I usually fly Hound because I find the explosive damage and the agility much more handy. Also the 4 medslots only really help you doing solo. Don't think you can make an effecient fit with 3 BCS on a Hound though...


I would disagree. For solo purpose the best ship is the purifier > hound > manticore/nemesis
for small gang warfare it depends what your fleet needs.
DPS + some ewar = hound
ewar + some DPS = manticore

and with ewar I mean target painters and dampeners.

due to the slot layout you can always get more dps out of a hound and purifier then a manticore & nemesis and the fact that they can do EM or explosive damage.




this, with a bit of a correction.

the manticore is much better than the nemesis simply because of the fact that the manti and the nems have the same grid, but manti has more cpu.

also for solo purposes, the manticore is much more agile than the nemesis.


solo-wise, the purifier is much better due to the simple fact of having quite a large cargo and better grid.

Kunming
Amarr
T.H.U.G L.I.F.E
Xenon-Empire
Posted - 2011.08.18 18:00:00 - [7]
 

Hound is faster, manti has more cpu to fit a painter f.ex., purifier has more cargo and grid, nemesis is middle ground on all bases, not worst nor best.

Mac Tir
Posted - 2011.08.18 18:38:00 - [8]
 

It's a 2x skill.

Fly both.

Othran
Brutor Tribe
Posted - 2011.08.18 18:59:00 - [9]
 

Originally by: Mac Tir
It's a 2x skill.

Fly both.


May as well fly them all - rank 2 skills are hardly onerous. Racial frigate 5 unlocks a lot more than that too.

Magnus Orin
Minmatar
Wildly Inappropriate
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2011.08.18 22:50:00 - [10]
 

Hound hands down.

Camden Sine
Posted - 2011.08.19 00:49:00 - [11]
 

Consider the skill training, as you already have.

Caldari T2 frigates suck while Minmatar T2 frigates are pretty cool(if niche).

I used to know a 'ceptor pilot that had like a stack of 50 crows sitting in his hangar. He used to run through that thing about once every two or so months.

Nezumiiro Noneko
Posted - 2011.08.19 02:04:00 - [12]
 

the correct answer is....whatever bomber your corp alliance like to run, train that bomber lol.


Ideally and since covert ops is universal...train a few bombers. Its jsut 10ish days and gets you flexibility.


More solo work....depends on what you want. Hound is liked. But going back to above...I'd ask what rat are your target ratters killing. In angel space...you'd want manticore. Your rattes will be tanked for explosive. Roaming serpentis space...hound. The ratters are tankng kinetic strongly. Me, I'd like max dps that isn't being blocked. Just my thinking.

Kulsto Ribro
Posted - 2011.08.19 14:30:00 - [13]
 

Originally by: Nezumiiro Noneko
In angel space...you'd want manticore. Your rattes will be tanked for explosive. Roaming serpentis space...hound. The ratters are tankng kinetic strongly. Me, I'd like max dps that isn't being blocked. Just my thinking.

Your thinking is just wrong then.

Gibbo3771
Posted - 2011.08.19 17:06:00 - [14]
 

Edited by: Gibbo3771 on 19/08/2011 17:07:17
Originally by: Camden Sine
Consider the skill training, as you already have.

Caldari T2 frigates suck while Minmatar T2 frigates are pretty cool(if niche).

I used to know a 'ceptor pilot that had like a stack of 50 crows sitting in his hangar. He used to run through that thing about once every two or so months.


I would gladly take a hawk/harpy against ANY other frigate 1v1, you clearly have no idea wtf your talking about...an mwd fit blarpy will kill a cookie cutter fit mwd jag 9/10 times, the fact the jag has to fire into the lowest resist of EM at around 50% while a harpy is doing kinetic/thermal with much better damage projection due to the optimal range bonus..a harpy can reach 7km with blasters with still 85% if its damage and if a jag tries to pull range its going with 0 transversal = dead.

Hawk will just **** it, no sweat at all.


 

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