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Myfanwy Heimdal
Caldari
Posted - 2011.08.18 16:00:00 - [31]
 

Originally by: Brooks Puuntai
as long as you scanned your photo id / cd keys and mailed it to them,


Assuming that one has photo-id. I've spent over half a century on this planet and I am pleased to have no such Orwellian receipts from The State.

Mugshot301
Posted - 2011.08.20 13:12:00 - [32]
 

Originally by: KaarBaak
I wish CCP had a policy of publicly setting the record straight on these threads once they were resolved. I recall once a while back when one such thread was publicly responded to and the OPs EULA violations were exposed.

Unfortunately, we're usually stuck with mysteriously disappearing OPs once the petition gets resolved.

Transparency regarding CCP errors and/or player violations would be refreshing.

I understand it has always been policy to not publish CS comms.




Well for the public record, CCP seems to think this case is over, they supposedly unlocked my main account from 2003, but alas i cannot log into the account, i cannot change retrieve my password either, which still suggests CCP have disabled the account, not even suspended it.

Oh yea and then they see it fit to punish me and keep one of my alt accounts disabled with these words.

"Given the account's past, including violations it has been involved in, we cannot offer to reopen it at this time."

I believe once upon a time i did something that cost me a 14 day suspension on my main account, had nothing to do with this account, this account actually has no violations at all except for this transfer gone bad.

So yea, basicly CCP are screwing me over.......... how lovely, i have however filed a complaint and asked that another GM takes a look at my petition.

Holy One
SniggWaffe
Posted - 2011.08.21 17:14:00 - [33]
 

Its complicated.

I well understand how it can be a nightmare for ccp to at once respond or be seen to respond to constant calls for tighter security and clamp down on eula violators and also avoid upsetting paying customers who just 'seem to be a bit dodgey'.

My RL buddy is staying with me at the moment, I met him through eve and he hasn't played in 10 months. I asked him this morning if I could have his stuff and he was like, ok sure.

So I bought a GTC and gave it to him to re-activate his account - in my house on my ip - him having logged in to his account management yesterday on his way here. So right away you got 2 ips, and a sudden re-activation with a plex (no real traceable identity attached).

He spent two hrs this morning hauling stuff to jita to sell off while I was at work.

So now you got sudden anon reactivation, then asset liquidation. That looks bad right? Sure it does.

Then when I got home he was chatting to some old friends, so I chipped in now and then and we had some nice three-way action. Hur hur hur.

So ..

CCP's point of view: reactivation, multiple ips, weird chat logs, asset liquidation, changes of password, updated email address etc etc etc.

RED FLAG.

Bam.

It can happen. It might even ..

You got to just accept CCP is doing its best with what they can see. I'd rather they were doing it than not doing it!

Rumplefink
Posted - 2011.08.22 03:48:00 - [34]
 

Originally by: Myfanwy Heimdal
Originally by: Brooks Puuntai
as long as you scanned your photo id / cd keys and mailed it to them,


Assuming that one has photo-id. I've spent over half a century on this planet and I am pleased to have no such Orwellian receipts from The State.


^THIS^ is pure awesome.

Also, we know who you are, John.

Mugshot301
Posted - 2011.08.22 11:04:00 - [35]
 

Originally by: Holy One
Its complicated.

I well understand how it can be a nightmare for ccp to at once respond or be seen to respond to constant calls for tighter security and clamp down on eula violators and also avoid upsetting paying customers who just 'seem to be a bit dodgey'.

My RL buddy is staying with me at the moment, I met him through eve and he hasn't played in 10 months. I asked him this morning if I could have his stuff and he was like, ok sure.

So I bought a GTC and gave it to him to re-activate his account - in my house on my ip - him having logged in to his account management yesterday on his way here. So right away you got 2 ips, and a sudden re-activation with a plex (no real traceable identity attached).

He spent two hrs this morning hauling stuff to jita to sell off while I was at work.

So now you got sudden anon reactivation, then asset liquidation. That looks bad right? Sure it does.

Then when I got home he was chatting to some old friends, so I chipped in now and then and we had some nice three-way action. Hur hur hur.

So ..

CCP's point of view: reactivation, multiple ips, weird chat logs, asset liquidation, changes of password, updated email address etc etc etc.

RED FLAG.

Bam.

It can happen. It might even ..

You got to just accept CCP is doing its best with what they can see. I'd rather they were doing it than not doing it!


Well no you see , my accounts only have my ip addresses on it , or even my mac adresses connected to it if ccp traces it that far , have never account shared with anyone, just until this character transfer went bad everything was peachy, but now with pathetic ccp and a senior gm nythanos that doesn't want to listen to any kind of reason or even register that i want to file a complaint and have somebody else take a look at my petition except has narrow eyes.

But if CCP wants it that way, ill file a small claims court case , i wan't money back for 3 years wasted.

Galalissa Noban
Posted - 2011.08.22 11:07:00 - [36]
 

Originally by: Mugshot301


But if CCP wants it that way, ill file a small claims court case , i wan't money back for 3 years wasted.



LMFAO ..... enjoy wasting your money then trying to get that refund .........

You played during the time that you made those payments , all CCP has to do is show your account using the server = no refund .

Holy One
SniggWaffe
Posted - 2011.08.22 11:20:00 - [37]
 

Originally by: Mugshot301
Originally by: Holy One
Its complicated.

I well understand how it can be a nightmare for ccp to at once respond or be seen to respond to constant calls for tighter security and clamp down on eula violators and also avoid upsetting paying customers who just 'seem to be a bit dodgey'.

My RL buddy is staying with me at the moment, I met him through eve and he hasn't played in 10 months. I asked him this morning if I could have his stuff and he was like, ok sure.

So I bought a GTC and gave it to him to re-activate his account - in my house on my ip - him having logged in to his account management yesterday on his way here. So right away you got 2 ips, and a sudden re-activation with a plex (no real traceable identity attached).

He spent two hrs this morning hauling stuff to jita to sell off while I was at work.

So now you got sudden anon reactivation, then asset liquidation. That looks bad right? Sure it does.

Then when I got home he was chatting to some old friends, so I chipped in now and then and we had some nice three-way action. Hur hur hur.

So ..

CCP's point of view: reactivation, multiple ips, weird chat logs, asset liquidation, changes of password, updated email address etc etc etc.

RED FLAG.

Bam.

It can happen. It might even ..

You got to just accept CCP is doing its best with what they can see. I'd rather they were doing it than not doing it!


Well no you see , my accounts only have my ip addresses on it , or even my mac adresses connected to it if ccp traces it that far , have never account shared with anyone, just until this character transfer went bad everything was peachy, but now with pathetic ccp and a senior gm nythanos that doesn't want to listen to any kind of reason or even register that i want to file a complaint and have somebody else take a look at my petition except has narrow eyes.

But if CCP wants it that way, ill file a small claims court case , i wan't money back for 3 years wasted.


Well in that case you have my sympathy, and I can understand why you are raging hard. But ..

Try to keep it civil and keep replying to the petitions.

At the end of the day its not something you can do much about by getting angry on the forums is it?

GL with it anyway. Its most people's nightmare ..

Because Of Door
Posted - 2011.08.22 11:42:00 - [38]
 

Originally by: Myfanwy Heimdal
Assuming that one has photo-id. I've spent over half a century on this planet and I am pleased to have no such Orwellian receipts from The State.


No Passport? Never had to get a travel visa?

Mugshot301
Posted - 2011.08.22 11:42:00 - [39]
 

Originally by: Holy One
Originally by: Mugshot301
Originally by: Holy One
Its complicated.

I well understand how it can be a nightmare for ccp to at once respond or be seen to respond to constant calls for tighter security and clamp down on eula violators and also avoid upsetting paying customers who just 'seem to be a bit dodgey'.

My RL buddy is staying with me at the moment, I met him through eve and he hasn't played in 10 months. I asked him this morning if I could have his stuff and he was like, ok sure.

So I bought a GTC and gave it to him to re-activate his account - in my house on my ip - him having logged in to his account management yesterday on his way here. So right away you got 2 ips, and a sudden re-activation with a plex (no real traceable identity attached).

He spent two hrs this morning hauling stuff to jita to sell off while I was at work.

So now you got sudden anon reactivation, then asset liquidation. That looks bad right? Sure it does.

Then when I got home he was chatting to some old friends, so I chipped in now and then and we had some nice three-way action. Hur hur hur.

So ..

CCP's point of view: reactivation, multiple ips, weird chat logs, asset liquidation, changes of password, updated email address etc etc etc.

RED FLAG.

Bam.

It can happen. It might even ..

You got to just accept CCP is doing its best with what they can see. I'd rather they were doing it than not doing it!


Well no you see , my accounts only have my ip addresses on it , or even my mac adresses connected to it if ccp traces it that far , have never account shared with anyone, just until this character transfer went bad everything was peachy, but now with pathetic ccp and a senior gm nythanos that doesn't want to listen to any kind of reason or even register that i want to file a complaint and have somebody else take a look at my petition except has narrow eyes.

But if CCP wants it that way, ill file a small claims court case , i wan't money back for 3 years wasted.


Well in that case you have my sympathy, and I can understand why you are raging hard. But ..

Try to keep it civil and keep replying to the petitions.

At the end of the day its not something you can do much about by getting angry on the forums is it?

GL with it anyway. Its most people's nightmare ..


Well ive been very polite and accomodating towards their 1 million questions about this and that, but my patience comes to a end at some point, and this has to be some of the worst customer service since SWG, i swear they frell all over their customers.

And to the obvious troll , doesn't matter if the character is on the server or not , its not active the account is disabled, when i try to enter my password with that user it says incorrect username + password, and now ive taken print outs of Nythanos writing the account is disabled, not suspended, not banned, it initially started out with a 3 day suspension, and they do not want a small claims court case, because they don't wanna spend the money on the lawyers , so in the end they'd rather pay up or unlock my account.

Its a small claims court case they cannot win.

Fractal Muse
Posted - 2011.08.22 13:02:00 - [40]
 

Originally by: Mugshot301

And to the obvious troll , doesn't matter if the character is on the server or not , its not active the account is disabled, when i try to enter my password with that user it says incorrect username + password, and now ive taken print outs of Nythanos writing the account is disabled, not suspended, not banned, it initially started out with a 3 day suspension, and they do not want a small claims court case, because they don't wanna spend the money on the lawyers , so in the end they'd rather pay up or unlock my account.

Its a small claims court case they cannot win.


Ignoring jurisdiction issues why is it a small claims court case that they cannot win?

Iluminat
Minmatar
Sharp Dressed Man
Posted - 2011.08.22 13:17:00 - [41]
 

Did you try Caps Lock?

Prince Kobol
Posted - 2011.08.22 13:24:00 - [42]
 

The Major issue for me is that if your account has been banned, it makes no difference if you are innocent or not, it seem that petitioning it is a complete waste of time because of the time it takes CCP to respond.

You might have your account banned for say 7 days, you know you are 100% innocent but because you know it will probably take 3 - 4 days for CCP to respond what is the point in fighting it?

Even if you petition and CCP agree that your ban was a mistake, its not like they are going to reimburse you any game time or SP for those 5 days that you could not log on because of their mistake.

Also when you do receive a ban all it says is that you have violated the EULA. It gives no detailed information why you were banned. This within itself is very frustrating and makes it much harder to petition as first need to find out why you were banned in the first place.

I have to admit out of all the MMO's I have played when it comes to account issues CCP are by far the worst.

I once had an issue with my Lotro Account. Raised a petition and with 30 mins I was contacted by a GM via email. He noticed I had a google email account and suggested if it was okay by me if he could use google chat to make communication easier. A couple of hours my account was back up and running.. and this was Codemasters !!!!


Mutnin
Amarr
Mutineers
Posted - 2011.08.22 13:50:00 - [43]
 

Edited by: Mutnin on 22/08/2011 13:50:55
Originally by: Thornat
You know everytime I hear a story about character sales transactions that fail it puts a smile on my face. Sorry to be crude but frankly the more often this happens the better. That whole selling of characters is just a miserable fail in my opinion and should never have been allowed or supported by CCP. Aside from the fact thats its a huge scam factory that creates thousands of "bot" accounts, it devalues those players who legitimatly earn their characters advancement through commitment and gameplay.

Sorry you get no pitty from me and I hope this post remains bumped at the top for everyone to see what can happen when you try to buy your way into a character.


STFU.. Character sales are a legit transaction and it's damn sure a much better system than having everyone E-bay them. If you don't like it go play any other MMO that has nothing but E-Baying for their char sales, which I might add is breaking their EULA's.

Lady Ghoulia
Eternal-Darkness
Posted - 2011.08.22 15:29:00 - [44]
 

good luck phoning iceland

Cipher Jones
Minmatar
Posted - 2011.08.22 15:41:00 - [45]
 

Originally by: Myfanwy Heimdal
Originally by: Brooks Puuntai
as long as you scanned your photo id / cd keys and mailed it to them,


Assuming that one has photo-id. I've spent over half a century on this planet and I am pleased to have no such Orwellian receipts from The State.


Orwell would laugh at you for saying that from behind your fingerprint of an IP.

Ray Bradbury also.

Obax Bannon
Caldari
Fidelis Technologies
Posted - 2011.08.22 15:41:00 - [46]
 

Originally by: Holy One
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Well in that case you have my sympathy, and I can understand why you are raging hard. But ..



Well my next door neighbours teenage daughter was sunbathing topless in their garden at the weekend, that certainly had me raging hard too Very Happy

Galalissa Noban
Posted - 2011.08.22 16:26:00 - [47]
 

Originally by: Mugshot301
doesn't matter if the character is on the server or not , its not active the account is disabled, when i try to enter my password with that user it says incorrect username + password, and now ive taken print outs of Nythanos writing the account is disabled, not suspended, not banned, it initially started out with a 3 day suspension, and they do not want a small claims court case, because they don't wanna spend the money on the lawyers , so in the end they'd rather pay up or unlock my account.

Its a small claims court case they cannot win.


Of course they can win it .

You say you want a refund for the " last 3 years " , all CCP has to do is show you actively used your account on the server during that period and = case dismissed.

You could try claiming for the lost 7 days due to the ban , but again , CCP gives reason to the court for the ban = You lose .

But goodluck throwing your money away .

Mugshot301
Posted - 2011.08.22 17:52:00 - [48]
 

Edited by: Mugshot301 on 22/08/2011 17:55:29
Originally by: Galalissa Noban
Originally by: Mugshot301
doesn't matter if the character is on the server or not , its not active the account is disabled, when i try to enter my password with that user it says incorrect username + password, and now ive taken print outs of Nythanos writing the account is disabled, not suspended, not banned, it initially started out with a 3 day suspension, and they do not want a small claims court case, because they don't wanna spend the money on the lawyers , so in the end they'd rather pay up or unlock my account.

Its a small claims court case they cannot win.


Of course they can win it .

You say you want a refund for the " last 3 years " , all CCP has to do is show you actively used your account on the server during that period and = case dismissed.

You could try claiming for the lost 7 days due to the ban , but again , CCP gives reason to the court for the ban = You lose .

But goodluck throwing your money away .



Yes and no , i got my account disabled, not banned , not suspended for an invalid reason, which in that case will give me rights in a small claims court.

Doesn't matter if i used it actively for 3 years, because of course i would use it when i paid for it thats the whole point, CCP won't be able to make this one go away, since they can't make up rules as they go along, specially not a senior GM only.

Fractal muse : I paid for a service / product for 3 years that is only available online, suddenly CCP takes away my service / product without proper cause, didn't break any EULA by selling my character on the forums and followed the rules laid down by CCP, instead i end up first having the account suspended for 72 hours , when i tried to login into it, i filed a petition asking why , suddenly its permanently disabled, but my main account is still accessable , or it became accessable after a few days.

CCP Customer service............. what service are you saying ? , oh right there is none ;)

Karl Planck
Labyrinth Obtaining Chaotic Kangaroos
Posted - 2011.08.22 18:34:00 - [49]
 

Originally by: Mugshot301
Edited by: Mugshot301 on 22/08/2011 17:55:29
Originally by: Galalissa Noban
Originally by: Mugshot301
doesn't matter if the character is on the server or not , its not active the account is disabled, when i try to enter my password with that user it says incorrect username + password, and now ive taken print outs of Nythanos writing the account is disabled, not suspended, not banned, it initially started out with a 3 day suspension, and they do not want a small claims court case, because they don't wanna spend the money on the lawyers , so in the end they'd rather pay up or unlock my account.

Its a small claims court case they cannot win.


Of course they can win it .

You say you want a refund for the " last 3 years " , all CCP has to do is show you actively used your account on the server during that period and = case dismissed.

You could try claiming for the lost 7 days due to the ban , but again , CCP gives reason to the court for the ban = You lose .

But goodluck throwing your money away .



Yes and no , i got my account disabled, not banned , not suspended for an invalid reason, which in that case will give me rights in a small claims court.

Doesn't matter if i used it actively for 3 years, because of course i would use it when i paid for it thats the whole point, CCP won't be able to make this one go away, since they can't make up rules as they go along, specially not a senior GM only.

Fractal muse : I paid for a service / product for 3 years that is only available online, suddenly CCP takes away my service / product without proper cause, didn't break any EULA by selling my character on the forums and followed the rules laid down by CCP, instead i end up first having the account suspended for 72 hours , when i tried to login into it, i filed a petition asking why , suddenly its permanently disabled, but my main account is still accessable , or it became accessable after a few days.

CCP Customer service............. what service are you saying ? , oh right there is none ;)


You sir sound like a class A TOOL

There are better ways to handle this and you know it. But you just want to troll the forums to get some attention. I hope your enjoying it.

Please, I implore you, keep all of us here at the forums updated on your frivolous legal action.

Rath Kelbore
Kings of Kill
EVE Animal Control
Posted - 2011.08.22 19:33:00 - [50]
 

I don't think you're telling the whole truth tbh. Also, the lawsuit thing is ridiculous.


James Razor
Amarr
Fallen Angel's
White Noise.
Posted - 2011.08.22 19:53:00 - [51]
 

Originally by: Rath Kelbore
I don't think you're telling the whole truth tbh. Also, the lawsuit thing is ridiculous.




Why? Actually i am VERY tempted to ask my own lawyer to see if i can get CCP at its balls for missleading advertisments which is not allowed by german law (-> We never will introduce MT).

And i see Dev Blogs as a tool of advertisment in this case. Especially as they are public viewable ( u dont have to log in to read them).

If he wants to go to court, let him. I wish him good luck IF he is telling the truth.

We had a similar case in corp when someone was accused of RMTing and CCP refused to listen to the explainations.

Also, btw.: Just fill a random petition, decribe your problem in detail and do all the standard stuff(driver update, clear cache, etc.). Still the first replay will contain a hint to do all that standard stuff that u allready did without even answering your more specific questions.

Had that multiple times.

Conclusion: They dont even read what u write. At least not as carefully as they should.

Rath Kelbore
Kings of Kill
EVE Animal Control
Posted - 2011.08.22 19:59:00 - [52]
 

I could be wrong but I can't imagine anyone being able to get refunded money for a service that they received. If he's paid for game time while being unable to log in to his account, maybe could get refunded for that but I don't think that's the case.

I'm still skeptical that he's telling the truth anyways.

James Razor
Amarr
Fallen Angel's
White Noise.
Posted - 2011.08.22 20:11:00 - [53]
 

Edited by: James Razor on 22/08/2011 20:21:04
Edited by: James Razor on 22/08/2011 20:12:36
Originally by: Rath Kelbore
I could be wrong but I can't imagine anyone being able to get refunded money for a service that they received. If he's paid for game time while being unable to log in to his account, maybe could get refunded for that but I don't think that's the case.

I'm still skeptical that he's telling the truth anyways.



Still and no matter what stands in the EULA, he invested time and money into something that they took away without reason. In germany there was an actual case when someones account was hacked and he lost some shiney boots when the police investigated.
The case was quickly resolved by the game company when they heared of it and the guy got his stuff back.

So i would not necessarly say that CCP can do what they want with the accounts. Also, you do some sort of contract with CCP when u accept to play. But they also do a contract with you that gurantees you your stuff as long as u dont break the rules. So if he is right, CCP broke that contract, which puts them into a bad position.

I doubt he will get refunded. But in my eyes he deserves a compensation for the contract breaking.

Found the link (german only i afraid):
http://www.spiegel.de/netzwelt/web/0,1518,604334,00.html

Another article, still german only (sry):

http://guildwars2.ingame.de/16327/news/jugendlicher-vom-gericht-verurteilt-diebstahl-in-onlinegames-ist-strafbar-16327

This time a guy used shared acc data to steal his friends stuff and was charged and 1000 Compensation and 80 hours social work.

Mugshot301
Posted - 2011.08.22 20:18:00 - [54]
 

I have been as upfront as i can, i haven't broken any rules laid down by CCP, both accounts are mine, i paid for them both in 2003 and my alt from 2008 , both in my name , both paid with my ISK , did something once to get me a 14 day suspension, been upfront with that also.

But this goes beyond what i thought was gonna come from this petition i filed, now atleast Nythanos replied that he would :

GM correspondence removed. Please see Forum Rules number 9 for more information. Zymurgist

So now another GM will take a look at the case, maybe he can be reasoned with, i won't let go of 3 years of work for nothing , thats a 50m sp character right there.

Karl Planck
Labyrinth Obtaining Chaotic Kangaroos
Posted - 2011.08.22 20:20:00 - [55]
 

LOL, where the **** are the people coming from

Originally by: James Razor

Also, you do some sort of contract with CCP when u accept to play. But they also do a contract with you that gurantees you your stuff as long as u dont break the rules.


In the EULA, which you agree to when you play the game, it state VERY CLEARLY that they can, at any time, do whatever they want with your characters and his stuffz. You pay to be able to access the game, you have rights beyond that.

James Razor
Amarr
Fallen Angel's
White Noise.
Posted - 2011.08.22 20:23:00 - [56]
 

Originally by: Karl Planck
LOL, where the **** are the people coming from

Originally by: James Razor

Also, you do some sort of contract with CCP when u accept to play. But they also do a contract with you that gurantees you your stuff as long as u dont break the rules.


In the EULA, which you agree to when you play the game, it state VERY CLEARLY that they can, at any time, do whatever they want with your characters and his stuffz. You pay to be able to access the game, you have rights beyond that.


They can write in their EULA that heaven is red and water yellow, this doesnt make it right or law. Wouldnt be the first time an EULA was judged to be wrong or void.

Sirinda
Posted - 2011.08.22 20:38:00 - [57]
 

Law > EULA

That being said, I'm not a lawyer, so I'm making no claims the EULA is in conflict with German law in this case. The examples the OP linked do seem to imply law would be on his side if he chose to go down the road of a lawsuit.

Other than that, and generally speaking from my experience, EULAs can be partially disregarded in Germany because they violate German laws. Since Eve is being sold in Germany as a boxed game as well means it's subject to these laws as well.

I'm reiterating: Where a possible lawsuit is concerned, I'm talking out of my arse, I'm just trying to show EULAs aren't set in stone. At all.

Sader Rykane
Amarr
The Dark Space Initiative
Revival Of The Talocan Empire
Posted - 2011.08.22 20:47:00 - [58]
 

Originally by: Thornat
You know everytime I hear a story about character sales transactions that fail it puts a smile on my face. Sorry to be crude but frankly the more often this happens the better. That whole selling of characters is just a miserable fail in my opinion and should never have been allowed or supported by CCP. Aside from the fact thats its a huge scam factory that creates thousands of "bot" accounts, it devalues those players who legitimatly earn their characters advancement through commitment and gameplay.

Sorry you get no pitty from me and I hope this post remains bumped at the top for everyone to see what can happen when you try to buy your way into a character.


Legitimately earn?

Lol, my character is from 2006.

I didn't earn a damn thing; It's not like you grind skill points. Keep account active / receive bacon. It's really that simple.

James Razor
Amarr
Fallen Angel's
White Noise.
Posted - 2011.08.22 20:50:00 - [59]
 

Edited by: James Razor on 22/08/2011 20:51:17
Originally by: Sirinda
Law > EULA

That being said, I'm not a lawyer, so I'm making no claims the EULA is in conflict with German law in this case. The examples the OP linked do seem to imply law would be on his side if he chose to go down the road of a lawsuit.

Other than that, and generally speaking from my experience, EULAs can be partially disregarded in Germany because they violate German laws. Since Eve is being sold in Germany as a boxed game as well means it's subject to these laws as well.

I'm reiterating: Where a possible lawsuit is concerned, I'm talking out of my arse, I'm just trying to show EULAs aren't set in stone. At all.


Thank you for supporting my point.

BTW.: Prominent case: Microsoft EULA does not permit sales of so called *System Builder* Versions (also sometimes called OEM-Software). Still in germany i can legaly sell and buy such software and have done that in the past.

Win 7 Ultimate Retail ~260 (includes 32 and 64 Bit Version and customer support). Win 7 64Bit Ultimate SB Version (only 64Bit Version in that case, no support) ~ 145.
As i can claim to have some experience with Windows and its installation, etc. i dont see why to not buy that SB Version and use the money left for some hardware upgrades or an evening at the cinema.

Rath Kelbore
Kings of Kill
EVE Animal Control
Posted - 2011.08.22 20:58:00 - [60]
 

Edited by: Rath Kelbore on 22/08/2011 21:02:22
Originally by: James Razor
Edited by: James Razor on 22/08/2011 20:12:36
Originally by: Rath Kelbore
I could be wrong but I can't imagine anyone being able to get refunded money for a service that they received. If he's paid for game time while being unable to log in to his account, maybe could get refunded for that but I don't think that's the case.

I'm still skeptical that he's telling the truth anyways.



Still and no matter what stands in the EULA, he invested time and money into something that they took away without reason. In germany there was an actual case when someones account was hacked and he lost some shiney boots when the police investigated.
The case was quickly resolved by the game company when they heared of it and the guy got his stuff back.

So i would not necessarly say that CCP can do what they want with the accounts. Also, you do some sort of contract with CCP when u accept to play. But they also do a contract with you that gurantees you your stuff as long as u dont break the rules. So if he is right, CCP broke that contract, which puts them into a bad position.

I doubt he will get refunded. But in my eyes he deserves a compensation for the contract breaking.

Found the link (german only i afraid):
http://www.spiegel.de/netzwelt/web/0,1518,604334,00.html


You make a good argument. As far as the last part of your statement, we still don't know the whole story so maybe he broke his end of the deal first. Meh

OTOH, if he is being honest, I should hope CCP can figure it out and give him his accounts back.


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