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Mavrickrolld
Posted - 2011.08.17 22:52:00 - [1]
 

Alright I've been trying to fund my way to new ships and pvp. Running lowbie missions and mixing in some minning on the side. Out in a high sec asteroid belt minning, had two lasers and a drone going, filling up a can slowly.

Getting the can about 1/4th full, I notice a ship on my overview thats flagged yellow. Ok that can't be good. But he's 50km away in a hauling ship, not going anywhere quickly I pay him no mind. A few minutes later I flick around my view point and he's a little closer now. I still dismiss it. After a while I notice he's right on top of me. And sits there for a minute. Doesn't open fire (doubt he could, an Iteron just has the one slot which he had a minning laser on). After a minute or two I see my can get scooped up, and off he goes.

At first I was ****ed cause that was a good ten or so minutes of mining. I know to the long time uber elite who have trillions of isk that couple thousand veldspar is not even pocket change but to me it was a few hundred K I could use. I warp back to the nearest base. Remove my cargo expanders, unfit my mining lasers, toss on some 75mm rails, shield boost, speed boost and head back out..

But he ain't there. I checked every asteroid belt in the system, no sign of him. I was hoping to try to kill him and get my stuff back but alas, he was gone in the wind.

After a while I laughed it off, went back to doing other things. I didn't expect to get can flipped in high sec but I guess that taught me a lesson to keep a better eye out on the map and make a run for it as needed. Having fun so far, already paid for a month so here's to progressing further :)

Tabernack en Chasteaux
Posted - 2011.08.17 22:59:00 - [2]
 

Originally by: Mavrickrolld
I didn't expect to get can flipped in high sec...


You will ONLY ever get can flipped in high sec. Anywhere else, folks will just straight up kill you. It's how they say hello.

Char'sul Omar
Minmatar
LazyBoyz Band of Recreational Flyers
Posted - 2011.08.18 11:01:00 - [3]
 

Nice to see someone who 'gets' the game, is willing to learn from mistakes made instead of just nerdragequitting over something like this.

By the way, you should seriously consider mining into several anchored Giant Secure Containers, to avoid these situations. And then troll the canflipper by leaving out one single jetcan with a single unit of ore in it, wait till he's almost within transfer range, then pull in the one unit of ore and make the can go pop right in his face Laughing

Gets me going through the day everytime.

Phugoid
Posted - 2011.08.18 12:56:00 - [4]
 

Hey Maverick.... ditto what Char said.

Yes, get urself a few Giant Secure Containers. they cant be flipped, once u anchor them and password protect them. I remember getting my cans flipped when i was a dweeb noob :) But Ive learnt a few things in 2 years now.

So, get a few GSCs, line em up on ur belt, fill em u as u go along, then go get a ur hauler and pick up ur tons of ore to ur base and do whatever u do w it.

Just remember, GSCs can only be anchored in .7 or below, hold only 3900k, and if u dont visit them at least once a month, they go pooooof! But they are practically indestructible, and make mining alot more efficient.

E man Industries
Posted - 2011.08.18 20:10:00 - [5]
 

Can also mine in a group, get enough and it's worth while to have a dedicated hauler.

Mavrickrolld
Posted - 2011.08.18 22:47:00 - [6]
 

Yea I was reading up on the eve wiki about anchoring a can, I'll definitely look into that. Does it take any skills that need to be trained? Currently sitting Mining Level 4 and I think Level 1 lasers.

I mainly just do the mining on the side, I just finished a mission series from an agent which put me over 1mil isk (not a lot, I know) and a new Tristan which I fitted with 150mm Rails x2 and Standard Missile Launchers x2. But sadly none of my current agent missions have any kind of combat component so I haven't had a chance to try out the new ship or weapons yet.

Started exploring new systems and stuff last night, to get more missions. I've been tempted to start the Militia stuff for pvp and more money / items but from what folks have told me in the rookie channel I should wait a while till I can defend myself in pvp. At least to the point of being able to tackle them and make a run for it if need be. I immediately got plat insurance for the new ship, and updated my clone for skill point cap. Having fun so far. Basically UO in space with huge ships :)

Efraya
Minmatar
Posted - 2011.08.19 08:35:00 - [7]
 

Edited by: Efraya on 19/08/2011 08:37:05
I think you need Anchoring to anchor a can. You can only anchor a can in 0.7 and below.

Click on the People and Places (Second button down on the neocom(bar on the left))
Click on the agent tab
Click on the agent finder at the bottom of the tab
Fiddle with the filters and go blow some **** up!

Good luck in New Eden. See you in the space lanes.

Marisai
Posted - 2011.08.19 13:55:00 - [8]
 

Originally by: Efraya

Click on the People and Places (Second button down on the neocom(bar on the left))
Click on the agent tab
Click on the agent finder at the bottom of the tab
Fiddle with the filters and go blow some **** up!



If you're in a station, on the right hand side, click on the Agents tab and right at the top will be the Agent Finder button as well. Once that window opens, make sure you're set to level 1 on the slider at the top, set your other parameters on the left side (if you don't see it, look for a small >>> or <<< button) and search. It will show all level 1 agents that exist based on your other parameters. Quite handy.

Alternatively, you can also check EVE Agents. Not sure how up-to-date it is, but it worked all right for me.

Kilrayn
Posted - 2011.08.19 15:21:00 - [9]
 

o7 Mavrick, nice to see new players not getting discouraged Very Happy

For isk when you're first starting, I'd recommend missions over mining. Mining takes more of a time investment, and usually multiple accounts/corp fleet to out-isk missioning (just watch your standings). You'll also get more basic combat experience this way.

Fly safe.

Zed Maximal
Posted - 2011.08.19 17:07:00 - [10]
 

The first rule of responding to can flippers is not to respond to can flippers

Phugoid
Posted - 2011.08.22 17:39:00 - [11]
 

hey Mav....

check up on the GSCs on the market, then see what u need to train up to be able to use one, i dont think it will be alot.

also, when i was "new", i did try the militia, and i got killed real quick! militia's arent for us newbies :)

Slade Trillgon
Endless Possibilities Inc.
Posted - 2011.08.22 18:25:00 - [12]
 

Originally by: Phugoid
hey Mav....

check up on the GSCs on the market, then see what u need to train up to be able to use one, i dont think it will be alot.

also, when i was "new", i did try the militia, and i got killed real quick! militia's arent for us newbies :)


If you are a new player, can fly a tackle frigate, can follow directions, and are not scarred to get blown up (I dare say that most milita corps will reimburse ships for those destroyed on militia sanctioned operations), then you are perfect for at least a few militia corporations.


Slade

Phugoid
Posted - 2011.08.22 18:34:00 - [13]
 

Originally by: Slade Trillgon
Originally by: Phugoid
hey Mav....

check up on the GSCs on the market, then see what u need to train up to be able to use one, i dont think it will be alot.

also, when i was "new", i did try the militia, and i got killed real quick! militia's arent for us newbies :)


If you are a new player, can fly a tackle frigate, can follow directions, and are not scarred to get blown up (I dare say that most milita corps will reimburse ships for those destroyed on militia sanctioned operations), then you are perfect for at least a few militia corpoporations.


Slade



thanks Slade.....

when i joined a militia i was just a few weeks old, so i think i joined the NPC ones, if there is such a thing, or the CCP sanctioned ones. i dont recall any other capsuleers in it.

Slade Trillgon
Endless Possibilities Inc.
Posted - 2011.08.22 20:22:00 - [14]
 

Originally by: Phugoid


thanks Slade.....

when i joined a militia i was just a few weeks old, so i think i joined the NPC ones, if there is such a thing, or the CCP sanctioned ones. i dont recall any other capsuleers in it.


There are no NPC corp or CCP sanctioned corps per se in FW. There are role playing corporations, which most that are in FW I would assume RP at some level. I do not know the corp that you joined early on and it is quite possible that you were in a corp that was not a good fit for you or for new players in general. They may have even recruited you thinking you were a vet player with a low SP pilot trying things out for a bit.

Finding a good fit for a corporation is not an easy task. Just keep you eyes and ears open, keep trying and do not just jump head first into a new corp. Hang out in the recruitment chat and talk with some of the members, ask questions and then, once you have done this, even with a few corporations, then you can make an informed decision on which corp to join. Treat it somewhat like an interview with a potential employer.

One last thing before I hit post. Even with all that work, once you get into a new corporation, it still may not be a good fit, it may be a good fit that goes bad at any point in time, and it may be the best thing since sliced bread, just always keep an open mind.

Fly hard and have fun!

o7



Slade

Lady Go Diveher
The Independent Troll Society
Posted - 2011.08.23 12:42:00 - [15]
 

Originally by: Slade Trillgon
There are no NPC corp or CCP sanctioned corps per se in FW


Apart from the four empire militia corps, then?

There are two ways of joining Factional Warfare:

1) Join the militia. You need <0.5 standing with the faction - you are thrown into a new NPC corp, which is that factions militia. These are:
Amarr: 24th Imperial Crusade
Caldari: State Protectorate
Gallente: Federal Defence Union
Minmatar: Tribal Liberation Force

2) Join a corp who have joined FW. It's just like joining a normal player corp under a wardec.


 

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