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Andre II
Minmatar
Posted - 2011.08.17 11:54:00 - [1]
 

Well i start college soon and i don't know what to expect?



NCSU FTW WIN!

Jago Kain
Amarr
Ramm's RDI
Tactical Narcotics Team
Posted - 2011.08.17 12:15:00 - [2]
 

I really woudn't know; I'm British you see and we don't have an education system any more so I am unable to advise you what one may look like from the inside.



Wilhelm Riley
Posted - 2011.08.17 13:08:00 - [3]
 

Originally by: Jago Kain
I really woudn't know; I'm British you see and we don't have an education system any more so I am unable to advise you what one may look like from the inside.





Well.. we do, but it only seems to churn out chavs and teenage mothers. Confused

NeoShocker
Caldari
Interstellar eXodus
BricK sQuAD.
Posted - 2011.08.17 13:14:00 - [4]
 

Originally by: Andre II
Well i start college soon and i don't know what to expect?



NCSU FTW WIN!


Well my young peasant, the biggest difference between high school and college is that in college, your money is on the line for college. For example, dont pass the class? You just wasted money and time. But college is generally more flexible with schedule, depending the number of classes available, in addition on a career you have in mind to study for.

Also, be prepared for long ass hours for a single class. I am about to do 8 hour basic food prep class. :O (switching career from IT to chef)

Louis deGuerre
Gallente
Malevolence.
Posted - 2011.08.17 14:08:00 - [5]
 

Edited by: Louis deGuerre on 17/08/2011 14:08:40

In Holland, back when I studied and they actually taught stuff, they did about 3 years worth of high school in 3 weeks.
I actually had to get off my ass and work to pass. I studied something 'real', requiring the ability to do math.
90 % dropped out in the first year. 50% the second year. The remainder almost all graduated eventually.
These days the schools get paid on the basis of how many students graduate and as a consequence students almost all pass, clueless or not.
You can imagine the quality of our current graduates...


Wilhelm Riley
Posted - 2011.08.17 14:10:00 - [6]
 

Originally by: Louis deGuerre

90 % dropped out in the first year. 50% the second year. The remainder almost all graduated eventually.



But.. that's 140%!

The world is indeed getting dumber Sad

Blacksquirrel
Posted - 2011.08.17 14:14:00 - [7]
 

You're left to it. Existentially it's up to whether or not to care or succeed. Especially at state schools matter of fact there they have a bunch of really boring 100-200 level courses all taught by bitter grad students that are designed to fail you out. Most courses also only have a midterm, final, and a paper as your grade.( If you're lucky a few will be project based or have more exams to help buffer you if you **** up a single test.)
More often than not the toughest part will be time you put in rather than actual grasping of concepts.

This is why I know very smart people that fail out...they're lazy.

Thats the academic side. I made it not sound fun, but really you'll have a **** ton of time on your hands and really its about keeping up with the work/pace.

The fun side... Well I dont quite know as I go to a private engineering school, and fun isnt as easily found as at a state school at which you can get drunk off/high your ass every night of the week. I think thats kinda what you make of it too. You gotta be willing to out, and find new things or people to hang out with. Dont just hunker down in the dorms. Also good times are intramural sports.
Can join a frat, but unless you're a hardcore partier/alcoholic most people I know enjoy their first couple of years then get burned out on it.

I guess best advice is find a nice balance of fun, and not ****ing up on the academic side. Also choose your major wisely. Everyone tells you to do something you find interesting but the college bubble is going to burst soon, and in many ways. So do not get some ******ed marketing, psych, communications, English, liberal arts, or russian/greek/german history degree. They are ****ing useless and wont get you a job.


Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
Posted - 2011.08.17 14:15:00 - [8]
 

Originally by: Wilhelm Riley
Originally by: Louis deGuerre
90 % dropped out in the first year. 50% the second year. The remainder almost all graduated eventually.

But.. that's 140%!

Naaah, he's talking resists-like... 90% first year, then 50% of the ones left (95% down from original number, 5% of original left).
Wink

Zagam
Posted - 2011.08.17 14:19:00 - [9]
 

College can be fun, but you WILL work your *** off. Its tempting to spend a lot of time going out with your newfound friends, but remember that herpes is forever.

Blacksquirrel
Posted - 2011.08.17 14:24:00 - [10]
 

Originally by: Zagam
College can be fun, but you WILL work your *** off. Its tempting to spend a lot of time going out with your newfound friends, but remember that herpes is forever.


Hmm perhaps we can get some people who get it their first year to study and devote the rest of their college career to curing it?

Lithalnas
Amarr
Privateers
Privateer Alliance
Posted - 2011.08.17 14:44:00 - [11]
 

Edited by: Lithalnas on 17/08/2011 14:45:00
The first year or two will be easy, it is mostly remedial stuff from high school and some low end GE classes. Once those are over classes get much harder in terms of material and speed. Most course schedules have a lot of free time in your first 2 years. Something on the order of 4 or 5 classes. By the end you will be taking 6 to 7 classes. The department will make grumblings to you that they want you 'out' to make room for new students.

My advise to you, get a TA position for an easy Lab as soon as possible, its on campus and they will most likely forgive your tuition. Don't buy a gaming laptop, get a cheap laptop or no laptop and have a less expensive Desktop with an honest keyboard and mouse to work on. The dorms are an infestation pit of colds and flus, if you live in a dorm you will get ill several times.


The good news is that there are cute girls that will be your class mates, the bad news is that it is trendy and hipster to be a *****/valley girl. There is one exception, if you are doing any of the sciences there will be a 10 to 1 ratio of boys to girls.

Louis deGuerre
Gallente
Malevolence.
Posted - 2011.08.17 15:26:00 - [12]
 

Originally by: Akita T
Originally by: Wilhelm Riley
Originally by: Louis deGuerre
90 % dropped out in the first year. 50% the second year. The remainder almost all graduated eventually.

But.. that's 140%!

Naaah, he's talking resists-like... 90% first year, then 50% of the ones left (95% down from original number, 5% of original left).
Wink


Exactly Razz

Barakkus
Posted - 2011.08.17 19:33:00 - [13]
 

Beer and women, the best education you can buy.

Ayieka
Caldari
Posted - 2011.08.18 05:20:00 - [14]
 

Community college: lots of old people and single parents. ****'s real fo sho.

Magnus Orin
Minmatar
Wildly Inappropriate
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2011.08.18 16:10:00 - [15]
 

Basically booze, sex, and classes that are actually interesting (compared to high school).

If you are remotely social at all (i.e. don't spend every hour out of class in your dorm playing Eve), you should get laid so often it will blow your mind. Just remember to wrap it up.


Zagam
Posted - 2011.08.18 17:05:00 - [16]
 

Originally by: Magnus Orin
Basically booze, sex, and classes that are actually interesting (compared to high school).

If you are remotely social at all (i.e. don't spend every hour out of class in your dorm playing Eve), you should get laid so often it will blow your mind. Just remember to wrap it up.



Yep. Hence my post above.

Also... College is fun. Enjoy it.. once you've done your classwork.

Tethys Atreides
The Audacity of Huge
Posted - 2011.08.18 17:40:00 - [17]
 

They make you use apostrophes. It's a total drag...

Taedrin
Gallente
Kushan Industrial
Posted - 2011.08.18 18:22:00 - [18]
 

The *MOST* important piece of advice I can give you with regards to College is this:

DO YOUR ****ING HOMEWORK. Seriously.

I don't care if you never had to do homework to pass throughout all of your compulsory education - college is different. Your college profs don't care if you pass or fail - they have hundreds of other students and they don't have the time to talk to you after class with regards to your last exam. It is no longer their job to make you learn - they simply present the material and it is up to you to make sure you learn it.

Gibbeous Moon
Posted - 2011.08.18 20:09:00 - [19]
 

Originally by: Jago Kain
I really woudn't know; I'm British you see and we don't have an education system any more so I am unable to advise you what one may look like from the inside.



Clearly this man needs a Baccelaurate in David Beckham studies.

I had a Briish education thirty odd years ago when it was an education and the world was in black and white, sideburns and long hair*.

(* some things haven't changed really)

nate555
Caldari
The Godhand Corporation
Posted - 2011.08.19 07:12:00 - [20]
 

a good tip. get to know you professors and call them professors. and if you really are trying they will not fail you. Very Happy unless they are complete ****s Confused

Toshiro GreyHawk
Posted - 2011.08.19 09:42:00 - [21]
 

College can be the best time of your life. You're young and you're free of responsibility for anyone but yourself.

Savor it.

Get an on campus job if you can - that is assuming you have to work.

What to major in and how fast you want to get your degree are to dependent on you for me to give any advice.

You do have a question though as to whether or not your purpose is to get an education or get a job - as they are not the same thing. Here, General Education Classes (which they had in California but may not be called that elsewhere) can be seen as an opportunity to learn something you aren't familiar with rather than on onerous task you're being made to perform. This doesn't cost you any extra time - as you may be required to take so many units outside your major - so just approach them with a positive attitude and see what you can learn.

Some say that you can get an education after you get a job - but this isn't true. Once you start working full time, especially if you've got a wife and kids ... your chances for really learning anything that isn't work or family related are pretty much gone. It isn't that you can't do anything at all ... it's just that what you can do when your primary purpose in life is taking care of your family and maintaining your career is much more limited. Mostly ... after college your job & family will suck up your life - so here - you do want to pick something you enjoy doing - you just have to find something you enjoy doing that you can get paid for.

Getting an education can be very satisfying as you will understand some things that others simply don't. College is an opportunity to broaden your horizons and learn some things you never even thought of before. Associating with foreign students can help there - and sometimes the chicks put out more than the local variety ... sometimes not ...

If you don't give a **** about any of that - then just blitz your classes as fast as you can so you can get to those Level IV Missions ... uh ...

*shrug*


In any case - remember - that YOU, as a brand new adult, are now responsible for your life and the decisions you make. The days of whining about what your parents made you do are - over.


Put some thought into what you do - but do try and enjoy your young, free college years.

Strike a balance between things. Party - but not to much, study - but don't only study, work towards your career - but don't close your mind.

The biggest problem most people have is that they don't actually know what they want to do with the rest of their lives when they're 18 years old.

Of course ... you could always go spend a few years in the military ... before going to college ... One thing about that - is that it would give you perspective ... Then - when you get to college - you'll have a much deeper appreciation for the intellectual quality of the graffiti ...

*shrug*


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Zagam
Posted - 2011.08.19 13:27:00 - [22]
 

Originally by: Taedrin
The *MOST* important piece of advice I can give you with regards to College is this:

DO YOUR ****ING HOMEWORK. Seriously.

I don't care if you never had to do homework to pass throughout all of your compulsory education - college is different. Your college profs don't care if you pass or fail - they have hundreds of other students and they don't have the time to talk to you after class with regards to your last exam. It is no longer their job to make you learn - they simply present the material and it is up to you to make sure you learn it.

This. I can speak from experience on this one... I rarely did homework in HS (graduated with a low A average), and I do homework most of the time in college. Employers don't care about your HS GPA... but if you have a crap GPA (with a degree), they still may not take you seriously. Have a good GPA b/c you actually did your homework and learned something... you'll be taken more seriously.

Goldnut Sachs
Posted - 2011.08.19 15:06:00 - [23]
 

SMOKE WEED EVERYDAY?

Makus Monius
Posted - 2011.08.20 01:26:00 - [24]
 

If I were to go back and tell myself one tip at the start of my uni life (about to start final year now); *make the most of it*. You will NEVER be this free again. Lectures are far less frequent than school, opportunities to socialise with people who share your interests are abundant, and especially during the first year (and maybe the second), the work you do doesn't even count that much, if at all, to the final degree grade. Oh, if you live in a town/city with lots of students, FFS, TAKE ADVANTAGE of all the student offers in shops/cinemas/etc (there will most likely be plenty), it can really save you quite a chunk of cash.

After college/uni, what's next...? You stop being a student, and become a 'real person', with a job, you gotta pay taxes, etc. Enjoy the good times while you can, since once they start, they'll fly away. It doesn't feel like 3 years ago already that I started, but ****, that time went fast. I really regret missed opportunities during that time, so don't do the same... (my last year won't count since I'll actually have to work properly).

tl;dr... enjoy it, live it to the fullest... if that means lots of partying, party lots especially first year. If that means geeking out with fellow geeks (you'll find them, I randomly found 2/3 other students who played EVE without even trying), do it.

But don't forget to study too... you'll need a good degree to get any sort of decent job in this ****ty economy.

Bane Necran
Minmatar
Posted - 2011.08.20 17:42:00 - [25]
 

Expect it to be an outrageously expensive intermediate stage between moving out of your parents house and living on your own.

Just ignore all the cashiers with university rings, shouldering crushing debt. You won't end up like them. You're a special snowflake.

Pr1ncess Alia
Posted - 2011.08.21 03:10:00 - [26]
 

Edited by: Pr1ncess Alia on 21/08/2011 03:11:31
Originally by: Goldnut Sachs
SMOKE WEED EVERYDAY?


this.

I mean, it takes work. You have to fit that in your schedule along side the massive amounts of tail you'll be chasing around and the nightly binge drinking. If you work hard enough, you can do all that and smoke everyday

I wasn't great at making it to lecture back in my day. At least not any class before noon. :P

Read the books, did well in tests... well enough apparently.

Xenuria
Gallente
Genos Occidere
HYDRA RELOADED
Posted - 2011.08.21 13:05:00 - [27]
 

Edited by: Xenuria on 21/08/2011 13:06:04
Originally by: Andre II
Well i start college soon and i don't know what to expect?



NCSU FTW WIN!


It's full of barbie doll looking girls with perfect bodies and nice muscles but all they are interested in is sleeping with as many black athletes as they possible can. They have not interest in me beyond having me as a pet. They never accept you're friend request on facebook.


The lesbians however seem to like me and enjoy my company.

Blacksquirrel
Posted - 2011.08.21 15:17:00 - [28]
 

Originally by: Xenuria
Edited by: Xenuria on 21/08/2011 13:06:04
Originally by: Andre II
Well i start college soon and i don't know what to expect?



NCSU FTW WIN!


It's full of barbie doll looking girls with perfect bodies and nice muscles but all they are interested in is sleeping with as many black athletes as they possible can. They have not interest in me beyond having me as a pet. They never accept you're friend request on facebook.


The lesbians however seem to like me and enjoy my company.


What say it anit true. I sir cannot believe this.

Constantine Arcanum
Bad Company DBD
Initiative Mercenaries
Posted - 2011.08.22 10:57:00 - [29]
 

Uni is brilliant, you're essentially an adult but nobody minds if you act like children.

Zed Maximal
Posted - 2011.08.25 23:12:00 - [30]
 

Not sure how it is in other countries but if you are in the USA don't even bother without close to a full scholarship. The price is astronomical and you will be left with an entry level job (if you are so lucky as to not be unemployed). Unless you are going for an engineering job it will take you a very long time to ever get out of that debt. The other way would be if you are talented at something and will shine compared to others with your useless degree. But if you had the talent you could get a job anyway. The only value for those types of people are making connections. Degrees don't get you a job. Connections do. Branch out and meet as many people as you can. Most good jobs arent advertised. And having x degree or x certificate is only going to get you past the drooling hiring rep into one of those crappy entry level jobs I mentioned.

PLEASE take my advice. Information isn't a secret. Get some books. Learn on your own. Get that entry level job and make connections.


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