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Maureen Biologist
Posted - 2011.08.16 15:52:00 - [1]
 

Hi guys. I'm not too far from flying a sacrilege and I see there's what looks like an interesting pve fit highly rated on bc, but I was wondering if anyone has any experience with them in lvl 4's?

I ask cos I like flying cruiser hulls, but also i could have uses for a cruiser sized hull that isn't a t3, due to cost, that could do level 4's.

I have decent skills related to the sac, and I understand the huge missions (ae/wc etc) won't e quick, but a lot of lvl 4's can be blitzes relatively quickly.


Anyway, sacrilege lvl 4's, let's hear your experiences.


NoNah
Posted - 2011.08.16 15:56:00 - [2]
 

Even with an abnormally ganky setup on a sac, you won't deal very much dps. Sure, you'll be able to finnish alot of missions in reasonable time, but... meh. You'd as always be much better off in a drake, let alone a real missionship.

Maureen Biologist
Posted - 2011.08.16 17:28:00 - [3]
 

Edited by: Maureen Biologist on 16/08/2011 17:29:28
Originally by: NoNah
Even with an abnormally ganky setup on a sac, you won't deal very much dps. Sure, you'll be able to finnish alot of missions in reasonable time, but... meh. You'd as always be much better off in a drake, let alone a real missionship.


ok now im home from work i have done some eft warrioring. this is going to take me a while to type out since i cant remember how to copy to clipboard from eft.

lvl 4 missioning drake (best i can think of):

ballistic control system II
ballistic control system II
shield power relay II
shield power relay II

10mn afterburner II
Large shield extender II
large shield extender II
invulnerability field II
invulnerability field II
shield recharger II

Heavy Missile Launcher II
Heavy Missile Launcher II
Heavy Missile Launcher II
Heavy Missile Launcher II
Heavy Missile Launcher II
Heavy Missile Launcher II
Heavy Missile Launcher II

medium core defense field purger I
medium core defense field purger I
medium core defense field purger I

with scourge fury ammo, gives 411 dps, 408m/s, 546 sig rad, 451 omni tank at all 5's.

sacrilege, lvl 4 idea:

medium armour repairer II
medium armour repairer II
energized adaptive nano plating II
Ballistic control system II
ballistic control system II

10mn afterburner II
stasis webifier II
cap recharger II
cap recharger II

heavy assault missile launcher II
heavy assault missile launcher II
heavy assault missile launcher II
heavy assault missile launcher II
heavy assault missile launcher II

medium auxiliary nano pump I
medium auxiliary nano pump I

this gives 489 dps, 554 m/s, 182 sig rad and 381 omni tank at all 5's.

that has similar sig rad and tank to my tengu so i think its easily enough for lvl 4's, it does more dps than the drake, again using t2 ammo. if i really wanted i could change the nano pumps to a warhead calefaction rig and a loading bay accelerator rig taking me up to 610m/s and 549 dps while dropping me down to 300 omni tank.

i'm not really seeing how i 'would be much better off in a drake' but comparing the two it easily has the dps of a (bad, admittedly) raven pilot while tanking a whole lot better. and being a lot more fun too.

i know i know, hams have short range so their applied dps isnt so great, but thats not my biggest worry. i also know that i could use specific hardeners on the drake, but i cba to set up damage profiles on eft ^^

still, i dont think its that bad. its no raven/cnr/marauder/tengu but thats not what im after. i think it could make a solid lvl 4 runner that is fun to fly as its a cruiser?

edit: i didnt use any drones in either of my eft setups

NoNah
Posted - 2011.08.16 17:40:00 - [4]
 

Not sure why you compare hams to HMLs, or even use a passive shield tank on the drake. But it's somewhat clear that you want to fly the sacrilege and well... if you do go for it. I have no doubt it'll be able to complete any and all level 4's with relative ease. All I'm saying it won't be very effective.

The reason I bring up a drake is not because the drake is good, quite the opposite. They're just comparable.

Lynz Jallani
Caldari
Posted - 2011.08.16 17:46:00 - [5]
 

In all honesty, the problem with Sac isn't the dps itself, it's the damage projection - The drake can do 400+ DPS out to 120+ km, the Sacrilege is stuck at maybe 1/4 of that, which necessitates more moving around to make sure things are in range.

TheMahdi
Posted - 2011.08.16 19:46:00 - [6]
 

A Sac being comparable to a Drake is NOT a good thing. Get something better lol.

Akisa Damaar
Posted - 2011.08.16 19:53:00 - [7]
 

Originally by: Maureen Biologist
ok now im home from work i have done some eft warrioring. this is going to take me a while to type out since i cant remember how to copy to clipboard from eft.

At the top of your ship window, right next to the "name field" for the setup, you have a spaceship icon which will bring up a pull-down menu -> copy to clipboard.

Valentina Valentia
Caldari
State War Academy
Posted - 2011.08.16 22:14:00 - [8]
 

Edited by: Valentina Valentia on 16/08/2011 22:16:58
[Sacrilege - L4 Gas Harvester]

Gas Cloud Harvester II
Gas Cloud Harvester II
Gas Cloud Harvester II
Gas Cloud Harvester II
*2x of your favorite anti-rat splattering device*

10MN Afterburner II
Medium Cap Booter II (800)
Stasis Webifier II
Stasis Webifier II

Expanded Cargohold II
Expanded Cargohold II
Expanded Cargohold II
Expanded Cargohold II
Damage Control Unit II
Medium Armor Repairer II

Medium Anti-Thermic Pump I
Medium Auxiliary Nano Pump I

Sader Rykane
Amarr
The Dark Space Initiative
Revival Of The Talocan Empire
Posted - 2011.08.17 09:34:00 - [9]
 

Don't use a drake (or a sac) for level 4's if you value your time at all.

Seriously, just get a battleship.

Sader Rykane
Amarr
The Dark Space Initiative
Revival Of The Talocan Empire
Posted - 2011.08.17 09:34:00 - [10]
 

Edited by: Sader Rykane on 17/08/2011 09:34:35
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Tore Smith
Science and Trade Institute
Posted - 2011.08.17 09:54:00 - [11]
 

ive used the sac and the cerb as mission boats before my bs skills were up and it was fun. mind you, this was before the introduction of t3s, which made both boats pretty useless in pve thanks to the tengu.

still the new hull is awesome and not every minute you spend in eve has to be isk-optimized, its a ****ing game after all. so i would use the following:

[Sacrilege, pve_pimpedAlittle]
Corelum B-Type Medium Armor Repairer
Khanid Navy Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane
Khanid Navy Energized Thermic Membrane
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System

10MN MicroWarpdrive II
Cap Recharger II
Cap Recharger II
Stasis Webifier II

Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Torrent Assault Missile
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Torrent Assault Missile
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Torrent Assault Missile
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Torrent Assault Missile
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Torrent Assault Missile
Heavy Pulse Laser II, Scorch M

Medium Bay Loading Accelerator II
Medium Hydraulic Bay Thrusters I


Hobgoblin II x3

swap to an ab if fighting angels and the like, because they will be close anyhow. otherwise mwd works in all missions now and will help you much with those sanshas spawning 100km from you.

cheers!

Veshta Yoshida
Amarr
PIE Inc.
Posted - 2011.08.17 10:00:00 - [12]
 

Makes a decent ratting boat against Angel's and their ilk.

For missions you lack DPS and range, sure you can tank anything thrown at you but completing anything will take forever and a day.

For me the Sacrilege has one purpose, and one purpose only: Killing Vagabonds and Cynabals.
All other targets are either too small to be damage by HAMs or too big to be killed in any reasonable amount of time.


 

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