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Prince Kobol
Posted - 2011.08.16 14:23:00 - [1]
 

Just wondering if anybody has ever worked out what is the fastest cycle possible when ice mining?

This would include fleet bonus, implants, skills etc etc

The fastest I have been able to come up with was 198 sec per cycle.

Velicitia
Gallente
Open Designs
Posted - 2011.08.16 14:41:00 - [2]
 

hulk --> 3:00
Mackinaw --> 3:19


give or take for roundoff error.

Prince Kobol
Posted - 2011.08.16 14:50:00 - [3]
 

Originally by: Velicitia
hulk --> 3:00
Mackinaw --> 3:19


give or take for roundoff error.


I can hit 277 seconds per cycle in my mack and my skills are no where near maxed out

Velicitia
Gallente
Open Designs
Posted - 2011.08.16 15:02:00 - [4]
 

Edited by: Velicitia on 16/08/2011 15:02:27
so you have a 4:36 (M:SS) cycle time.. I fail to see how this refutes the 3:00 (Hulk) and 3:19 (Mack) maxxed cycle times.

Diminishing returns and all that.


Dorian Wylde
Posted - 2011.08.16 15:36:00 - [5]
 

Originally by: Velicitia
Edited by: Velicitia on 16/08/2011 15:02:27
so you have a 4:36 (M:SS) cycle time.. I fail to see how this refutes the 3:00 (Hulk) and 3:19 (Mack) maxxed cycle times.

Diminishing returns and all that.




Probably read it as 300 seconds. The : indicates minutes:seconds.

Velicitia
Gallente
Open Designs
Posted - 2011.08.16 15:55:00 - [6]
 

Originally by: Dorian Wylde
Originally by: Velicitia
Edited by: Velicitia on 16/08/2011 15:02:27
so you have a 4:36 (M:SS) cycle time.. I fail to see how this refutes the 3:00 (Hulk) and 3:19 (Mack) maxxed cycle times.

Diminishing returns and all that.




Probably read it as 300 seconds. The : indicates minutes:seconds.


probably right Dorian...

3:00 = 180 sec
3:19 = 199 sec

(again, potential rounding errors)

Tau Cabalander
Posted - 2011.08.16 18:22:00 - [7]
 

Just looking at the numbers, I get a lot lower. I'll have to check EFT when I get home, but if others have access to that:

Booster
Mining Foreman Link - Laser Optimization (-2%)
Mining Director 5
Warfare Link Specialist 5
Capital Industrial Ships 5 (Rorqual)
Mining Foreman Mindlink

Miner
Ice Harvesting 5 (-5%/level)
Ice Harvester II (500 sec)
2x Ice Havester Upgrade II (-9%)
Hardwiring - Inherent Implants 'Yeti' BX-2 (-5%)
Hulk -3% per Exhumers level
Mackinaw -5% per Exhumers level, 25% penalty

Celeritas 5k
Connoisseurs of Candid Coitus
Posted - 2011.08.16 19:56:00 - [8]
 

Best EFT will give me in a mackinaw, with a deployed rorq running a mindlink, and the 'Yeti' implant, is 183 seconds.

Suun LeBlanc
Posted - 2011.08.16 20:12:00 - [9]
 

ur times fail to caculate in the fact that the mack can pull in twice as much per cycle then a hulk as there is a bonus to ice mining with a mack that makes using one more profitable in the long run

CataCourier
Posted - 2011.08.16 20:19:00 - [10]
 

Originally by: Suun LeBlanc
Using a mackinaw is always more profitable


Fixed.

Ashgoz Kouvo
Posted - 2011.08.16 21:22:00 - [11]
 

Originally by: Suun LeBlanc
ur times fail to caculate in the fact that the mack can pull in twice as much per cycle then a hulk as there is a bonus to ice mining with a mack that makes using one more profitable in the long run

He asked what the fastest possible cycle is, not whats more profitable.

Akira Menoko
The Farmer's CO-OP
Posted - 2011.08.17 16:40:00 - [12]
 

Edited by: Akira Menoko on 17/08/2011 16:43:57
Edited for a word omission and to add emphasis

Maximum skilled Hulk/Mackinaw with the -5% cycle time implant, T2 Ice Harvesters, and two T2 mining upgrade modules coupled with maximum skilled Rorqual booster in siege mode with mining foreman mind link implant and cycle time gang link running.

Mackinaw:
- Cycle Time = 183.229 seconds
- Blocks per Cycle = 4
- Blocks per Hour = 78.590

Hulk:
- Cycle Time = 166.128 seconds
- Blocks per Cycle = 3
- Blocks per Hour = 65.010

Conclusion: The Hulk will give better cycle times, but the Mackinaw gives a better hourly yield thanks to its role bonus doubling its harvester output at the cost of a 25% cycle duration penalty.


Velicitia
Gallente
Open Designs
Posted - 2011.08.17 18:40:00 - [13]
 

Edited by: Velicitia on 17/08/2011 18:40:25
Originally by: Akira Menoko
Edited by: Akira Menoko on 17/08/2011 16:43:57
Edited for a word omission and to add emphasis

Maximum skilled Hulk/Mackinaw with the -5% cycle time implant, T2 Ice Harvesters, and two T2 mining upgrade modules coupled with maximum skilled Rorqual booster in siege mode with mining foreman mind link implant and cycle time gang link running.

Mackinaw:
- Cycle Time = 183.229 seconds
- Blocks per Cycle = 4
- Blocks per Hour = 78.590

Hulk:
- Cycle Time = 166.128 seconds
- Blocks per Cycle = 3
- Blocks per Hour = 65.010

Conclusion: The Hulk will give better cycle times, but the Mackinaw gives a better hourly yield thanks to its role bonus doubling its harvester output at the cost of a 25% cycle duration penalty.




hm... looks like my calcs don't take siege mode into effect... time to re-work all the maths for stuff :)

Jita Bloodtear
Posted - 2011.08.17 19:39:00 - [14]
 

I can confirm that the mackinaw cycle time is 183.23

Nuthyn
Posted - 2011.08.17 21:47:00 - [15]
 

Originally by: Akira Menoko


Mackinaw:
- Cycle Time = 183.229 seconds
- Blocks per Cycle = 4
- Blocks per Hour = 78.590

Hulk:
- Cycle Time = 166.128 seconds
- Blocks per Cycle = 3
- Blocks per Hour = 65.010

Conclusion: The Hulk will give better cycle times, but the Mackinaw gives a better hourly yield thanks to its role bonus doubling its harvester output at the cost of a 25% cycle duration penalty.




This is spot on correct and I know firsthand as I do it all the time.

If you mine in a belt that has very little traffic and jumps….. max out that Mac and go to town.

If you mine in a belt prone to jumping, use the Hulk fit for a bit o tank and accept that you are mining a little less.

My two mains have over 75 millions sill points and I have never lost a mining vessel.

Do your research and mine smart…

Fly safe

kapitan Nalepka
Posted - 2011.08.21 15:23:00 - [16]
 

Edited by: kapitan Nalepka on 21/08/2011 15:23:46
So best cycle time with rorq is 183. Can anyone actually tell me whats best time with orca? Im currently sitting at 205.01s and cant think of any way to lower that.

Im using Mac with
-Exhumers 5
-Ice mining 5
-2x ice harvester upgrade II
-5% yeti implant

and orca booster with
-industrial command ships 5
-warfare link specialist 5
-minig director 5
-mining foreman mindlink

am i missing something?

Velicitia
Gallente
Open Designs
Posted - 2011.08.21 17:14:00 - [17]
 

Originally by: kapitan Nalepka
Edited by: kapitan Nalepka on 21/08/2011 15:23:46
So best cycle time with rorq is 183. Can anyone actually tell me whats best time with orca? Im currently sitting at 205.01s and cant think of any way to lower that.

Im using Mac with
-Exhumers 5
-Ice mining 5
-2x ice harvester upgrade II
-5% yeti implant

and orca booster with
-industrial command ships 5
-warfare link specialist 5
-minig director 5
-mining foreman mindlink

am i missing something?


nope, that's it.


 

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