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Coffe's Babe
Caldari
Posted - 2011.08.16 00:38:00 - [1]
 

Edited by: Coffe''s Babe on 16/08/2011 00:39:05
Considering all refining skills level 4, using a covetor/mack or even hulk with the appropriate crystal. Which one would be the most profitable to mine for a single account (or max 2-3 player op) to go sell afterwards in a trade hub?

Linda Shadowborn
Gallente
Dark Steel Industries
Posted - 2011.08.16 01:05:00 - [2]
 

ore chart

Read, do math, profit.

It changes all the time so you need to do your own math really.

Coffe's Babe
Caldari
Posted - 2011.08.16 01:15:00 - [3]
 

I just want to know what to mine with my friend that just started EvE and wants to be a miner... it's the first time I ever mine and will ever mine so I was kinda just looking for a simple answer and not to look at graphs like a monkey at a hammer.

Tauranon
Gallente
Weeesearch
Posted - 2011.08.16 01:17:00 - [4]
 

put your fits and your character into eft to get your yields, then take that to
http://market.eve-benelux.be

If you intend selling at a hub, you need to factor freight time/cost too.

Coffe's Babe
Caldari
Posted - 2011.08.16 03:07:00 - [5]
 

I know this is the science part of the hood but seriously all I wanted to do was find out while I am at work what ore would be best to mine for just a couple of hours with my new eve buddy without having to go through all the math explosion. All the math I'm willing to do is in my wallet.

But ty for the answers, informative for when I'll be remotely interested in mining more than a couple of hrs and passing on a better advice.

Chigy
Minmatar
Shiznit Galaxy
Posted - 2011.08.16 03:14:00 - [6]
 

Originally by: Coffe's Babe
I know this is the science part of the hood but seriously all I wanted to do was find out while I am at work what ore would be best to mine for just a couple of hours with my new eve buddy without having to go through all the math explosion. All the math I'm willing to do is in my wallet.

But ty for the answers, informative for when I'll be remotely interested in mining more than a couple of hrs and passing on a better advice.


Bold cause I'm butt-hurt

Tauranon
Gallente
Weeesearch
Posted - 2011.08.16 03:34:00 - [7]
 

Originally by: Coffe's Babe
I know this is the science part of the hood but seriously all I wanted to do was find out while I am at work what ore would be best to mine for just a couple of hours with my new eve buddy without having to go through all the math explosion. All the math I'm willing to do is in my wallet.

But ty for the answers, informative for when I'll be remotely interested in mining more than a couple of hrs and passing on a better advice.


Unless you are all-v we can't guess what your yields are, especially given that maths-fail usually implies fit-fail. We can't tell which ship you'll fail at fitting more, a hulk or a mack.

the tl;dr is go mine plag/veld/scord etc as close as possible to the hub, or in the same system as a big buy order for the ore or the relevent mins. Anything else and the inability to do maths to figure out the logistics of hauling will kill your isk/hr anyway.


Jak Silverheart
Minmatar
Posted - 2011.08.16 05:51:00 - [8]
 

Eve is a MATH game, you need to learn to do said math if you want to get good. Learn spreadsheets, charts, etc. If you already know this, than do it! As others have stated we can't tell you want to do for best isk/h as we don't know your skills, ship fitting, region prices etc. This is all stuff you have to figure out.

If you don't feel like doing said math, look at what you have, look at ore prices and guess what would be best for you. Or just mine whats closest.

Jaxx McCoy
Posted - 2011.08.16 07:13:00 - [9]
 

Edited by: Jaxx McCoy on 16/08/2011 07:15:43
Coffe, if as you say, you are planning on doing said mining with a friend who is just starting eve. Ice is definately too skill intensive unless your friend plans on strictly sticking to hauling.

Regardless, I would whole heartedly recommend the trusty Veldspar, starting with Dense, then moving on to Condensed, then normal obviously. 100% tritanium always seems to sell well relative to other high-sec ores yielding pyerite and mexallon.

The only downside is that it tends to take up more cargo space after refined, so also I would echo those who have said to mine close to a known buy order or hub to get optimal profits with minimum hauling.

Just the op of a part-time miner...
Hope this helps!


**edit: spelling Sad

Delta Bacat
Posted - 2011.08.16 07:20:00 - [10]
 

Edited by: Delta Bacat on 16/08/2011 07:24:52
Ok, here's your best answer:

Quote:
I just want to know what to mine with my friend that just started EvE and wants to be a miner... it's the first time I ever mine and will ever mine so I was kinda just looking for a simple answer


Join an open Mining operation with your friend and don't care what you mine as you'll get the same amount for everything. If you get a good op, prices are fair but not great. You'll be paid per can so no worries about what you put in there.

Links: Kelmor's mining op

That way you'll find out how much mining you can handle. If it's something you like, consider doing the math. For just one go with your friend, don't worry so much about best price, worry about fun.

CataCourier
Posted - 2011.08.16 19:38:00 - [11]
 

Originally by: Coffe's Babe
Edited by: Coffe''s Babe on 16/08/2011 00:39:05
Considering all refining skills level 4, using a covetor/mack or even hulk with the appropriate crystal. Which one would be the most profitable to mine for a single account (or max 2-3 player op) to go sell afterwards in a trade hub?


Re: Jita Prices-

Ore (full can value)

Pyro (3.05m) > Veld (2.92m) > Kernite (2.80m) > _______ > 'Named' Ice (5.00m*) > Omber (1.96m).

Note*: 'Named' Ice takes roughly twice as long to mine, so it is less valuable than all ore except Omber.

Seeker Acami
Posted - 2011.08.16 20:00:00 - [12]
 

You never get a straight answer here, everyone likes to make it sound more cerebral than it really is.

If youíre refining it then Omber will get you more ISK but is harder to get.

If youíre using a mac, then Ice is the best choice.

And Vespar is always easy to get and will always bring in some ISK.

There will be as many different thoughts on this, as there are people, this is just my opinion. And if you want a straight answer to a question, donít expect it on these forums, Sorry.

CataCourier
Posted - 2011.08.16 20:21:00 - [13]
 

Originally by: Seeker Acami

If youíre refining it then Omber will get you more ISK but is harder to get.



Sorry, but you couldnt' be more wrong.

Twitch Nakrar
Amarr
Posted - 2011.08.16 20:28:00 - [14]
 

Rolling Eyes

Tugrath Akers
Posted - 2011.08.16 20:29:00 - [15]
 

whichever rock is closest to you when you warp in

Linda Shadowborn
Gallente
Dark Steel Industries
Posted - 2011.08.17 14:52:00 - [16]
 

wow looking at a graph, seeing what is most expensive atm and mine that is to hard? really?

Reason why i didnt say "mine veld" is.. because and sit down: it varies!! One week one mineral is top the next another is. So if you dont .. check.. you can end up mining crap.

Not exactly *bleeping* rocket science is it? But apperently people want to be spoon fed with everything even if it ends up hurting them. Want us to play your char too?

Shesh...

Ekaterina 'Ghetto' Thurn
Posted - 2011.08.17 22:17:00 - [17]
 

I haven't checked prices for a while since I'm using and not selling atm but the majority of the time Veldspar will be the most profitable when just selling on for iskies. Whoever said Omber is incorrect - it weighs too much. If you are chancing afk mining then ice may be better but you won't be far wrong sticking with Veldspar. Smile

Coffe's Babe
Caldari
Posted - 2011.08.18 00:39:00 - [18]
 

Edited by: Coffe''s Babe on 18/08/2011 00:40:44
Originally by: Linda Shadowborn
But apperently people want to be spoon fed with everything even if it ends up hurting them. Want us to play your char too?

Shesh...


Hey hey, I made it fairly clear from the start I wanted to be spoon fed with some quick info since taking into account the time and reasons invested in this venture, spending time researching such a basic thing is not feasible.

And no, why would I want you to play my char? You can however help by providing me with a trained char so I can give that to my buddy. But I doubt you wanna go there...


edit: and thanks for all the info everyone (including above poster); I looked over them in the end but the hands-down experience showed me that at the moment omber is a bit better to mine than veld if you don't waste much time hauling to a trade hub (whereas you can mine veld 1 away or in the said trade hub)

Tauranon
Gallente
Weeesearch
Posted - 2011.08.18 03:17:00 - [19]
 

Omber isn't mined near or hauled to trade hubs for profit. The only time it profits is at storyline agents near l3 hubs, and generally that involves buying full freighter loads in gallente space and selling with frequently tended buy orders in amarr where its not present in belts.

ie its a trader/freighter game, the miners are usually wasting their time, and doubly so if they try target it in public belts where its also annoying at the mining level - small roids and not enough plain.

Kesshisan
Minmatar
Posted - 2011.08.18 06:37:00 - [20]
 

Originally by: CataCourier
Originally by: Seeker Acami

If youíre refining it then Omber will get you more ISK but is harder to get.



Sorry, but you couldnt' be more wrong.


Here we are supporting the theory that the best way to get a question answered on the internet is to give an incorrect answer.

If you ask a question, people will make fun of you.

If you answer the question incorrectly, there will always be someone to come along and correct you.

Cedo Nulli
Posted - 2011.08.18 18:27:00 - [21]
 

OP Translated: "Im just lazy as hell and could you tell me how to make tons of free isk yo!"

allso because im bold.



Funny that people give you the tools to see what is the best isk/h and yet you ask someone to do the damn math for them.

Braondra
Posted - 2011.08.19 04:51:00 - [22]
 

Dont feed the trolls.


 

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