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YuuKnow
Posted - 2011.08.14 17:32:00 - [31]
 

*THIS* should be the next big Eve online commercial.

Awesome work.

On a side note I love the last scene with the Battlecruiser docking in station. The real game should have this as an option (to see the ships docking).

Macmuelli
Gallente
Meltd0wn
Posted - 2011.08.14 17:57:00 - [32]
 

Awesome, and very well done.
U have great skills in doing this.


Eugene Spencer
Rodents of Unusual Size
Posted - 2011.08.14 18:01:00 - [33]
 

Very cool. Please do more!

Razin
The xDEATHx Squadron
Legion of xXDEATHXx
Posted - 2011.08.14 18:20:00 - [34]
 

Good work! I like the voiceover sound quality.

The subtitles feel out of place though, perhaps a version without them could be made available?

Ara Soulbright
Posted - 2011.08.14 19:45:00 - [35]
 

Nice work. Made me shiver. :)

SuHwak
Trust is Value
Posted - 2011.08.14 20:09:00 - [36]
 

I've never before shared anything on Facebook about EvE, but this I just had to share.

"Very nice work" doesn't do it justice Very Happy

Telvani
Crouching Woman Hidden Cucumber
Posted - 2011.08.14 20:52:00 - [37]
 

How is anyone saying this is good? Its just a load of CCP trailers with a (weak) voiceover and its in the wrong forum section, which it seems as long as your crap video ends up on EVE IS WOTwilightbeta.net doesn't matter anymore.


My Eve is has been churning out good videos for years, CCP release some cheap advertising site and there are no extra good videos being made but hundreds of rubbish ones diluting them.

Stitcher
Caldari
Posted - 2011.08.15 00:50:00 - [38]
 

Edited by: Stitcher on 15/08/2011 01:00:29

Originally by: Telvani
How is anyone saying this is good? Its just a load of CCP trailers with a (weak) voiceover and its in the wrong forum section, which it seems as long as your crap video ends up on EVE IS WOTwilightbeta.net doesn't matter anymore.


My Eve is has been churning out good videos for years, CCP release some cheap advertising site and there are no extra good videos being made but hundreds of rubbish ones diluting them.


You need to meditate or something. Put some soothing music on, take your shoes off, take deep breaths through the nose and out the mouth. All this angry tension's going to make you old before your time.

Either that, or get laid.

Roll Up
Posted - 2011.08.15 01:15:00 - [39]
 

great job 5 stars

Sin Meng
Gallente
Creative Assembly
Posted - 2011.08.15 01:52:00 - [40]
 

Fantastic! Well edited and thought provoking. Honestly I thought the scratchy mic added to the narrative in a strange retro way. Hope you'll do more!

DickbeardThePirate
Gallente
LODSOFEMONE
Posted - 2011.08.15 02:00:00 - [41]
 

While this holds up for eve as a video game, this video does seem to be presented in-character. I doubt your character would take cloning so frivolously if he realized you don't actually get reborn, you just get copied. When a capsuleer dies, they don't wake up in a pod. They die, and someone else - an entirely separate consciousness who looks and thinks exactly like them - wakes up in a pod and continues their business.

At least, this is what I've drawn from the "backstory" material on cloning.

Humans are selfish, and I doubt anyone would ever find consolation in their own death just because they know someone else is going to be managing their crap after they die, not to mention all the ship crews and people without clones.

Peaceful eve would make a **** video game, no doubt about it, but from what I would hesitate to call a "roleplay" perspective I can't imagine there is any sane character in the entire eve universe who doesn't want conflict to end so they can have largely risk-free lives.

Want to add that I'm not a roleplayer of any description, just a media critic hobbyist, and your plot has holes.

Myxx
Atropos Group
Posted - 2011.08.15 02:13:00 - [42]
 

Originally by: ****beardThePirate
While this holds up for eve as a video game, this video does seem to be presented in-character. I doubt your character would take cloning so frivolously if he realized you don't actually get reborn, you just get copied. When a capsuleer dies, they don't wake up in a pod. They die, and someone else - an entirely separate consciousness who looks and thinks exactly like them - wakes up in a pod and continues their business.

At least, this is what I've drawn from the "backstory" material on cloning.

Humans are selfish, and I doubt anyone would ever find consolation in their own death just because they know someone else is going to be managing their crap after they die, not to mention all the ship crews and people without clones.

Peaceful eve would make a **** video game, no doubt about it, but from what I would hesitate to call a "roleplay" perspective I can't imagine there is any sane character in the entire eve universe who doesn't want conflict to end so they can have largely risk-free lives.

Want to add that I'm not a roleplayer of any description, just a media critic hobbyist, and your plot has holes.


Infomorph psychology. There is a little bit more to it than you may realise at first...

Kyoko Sakoda
Caldari
Veto.
Veto Corp
Posted - 2011.08.15 03:11:00 - [43]
 

Some damn good writing in that piece, mate! The montage was not bad, either.

Internet Knight
The Kobayashi Maru
Posted - 2011.08.15 04:07:00 - [44]
 

1080p: youtube has it. So, live it. Learn it. Love it.

Stitcher
Caldari
Posted - 2011.08.15 04:48:00 - [45]
 

Edited by: Stitcher on 15/08/2011 05:32:45
Edited by: Stitcher on 15/08/2011 05:28:22
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I'm not a roleplayer of any description...


Clearly not. If you were, you'd know that it's not good roleplaying etiquette to dictate how you believe another player's character would behave.

"I flap my arms and fly to the top of the wall." "You're a dwarf. that's physically impossible." is valid.

"I accept the tavern wench's advances and let her lead me to my room with a bottle of the inn's finest mead." "Your character wouldn't do that!" is not.

Originally by: ****beardThePirate
I doubt your character would take cloning so frivolously if he realized you don't actually get reborn, you just get copied. When a capsuleer dies, they don't wake up in a pod. They die, and someone else - an entirely separate consciousness who looks and thinks exactly like them - wakes up in a pod and continues their business.


You're underestimating just how dramatically diverse people can be. Whether or not your interpretation is accurate, what's more important is how the character responds to it. The scientific reality that it is technically a very, very accurate copy with up-to-the-second memory of their life to date may not necessarily bother a person.

The fact that their atoms were being violently disassembled, converted into energy and then accurately reassembled somewhere else never seemed to bother anybody in Star Trek whenever they used the transporter, for instance. It's only a problem if you make it a problem in your head.

The character may believe that apparent continuity is as good as real continuity. He may not acknowledge the discontinuity at all. He may be religious, and believe that the soul survives such transmission, and that the clone is therefore still him.

He might just be a pragmatic sort who would say "well, I still feel like the same guy, therefore I'm the same guy. Don't bother me with fiddly philosophy". He might even relish his own temporary destruction as a manifestation of the chaos and upheaval that his philosophy glorifies.

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...just a media critic hobbyist, and your plot has holes.


A "plot hole" as I understand it is

1: when there are absences in a narrative that fail to explain why the story did not take another equally or more valid path, or

2: where a decision or twist cannot be readily understood due to a lack of supporting information, or

3: where an outcome contradicts what is already known without information subsequently being provided which resolves the paradox.

I don't see one here, especially seeing as the "plot" can be summarized as: "a man states his opinion". There's not really ROOM for a plot hole in that, it's not complicated enough.

The character's cavalier attitude to his own serial mortality is a personal quirk, not a failure of narrative logic. His speech is his opinion and his opinion, which is subjective, does not have to conform with your different, also subjective opinion.

Muent Dai
Posted - 2011.08.15 04:49:00 - [46]
 

Great video, really well done.

YuuKnow
Posted - 2011.08.15 07:21:00 - [47]
 

Edited by: YuuKnow on 15/08/2011 07:22:10
Originally by: CCP Cascade
That was really well done! I think you were spot on with a lot of things in that video: Tempo of voice, music choice, video clips and the powerful and meaningful message.


If offered any constructive criticism for future artistic development, I would say that in the latter half of the vid the pace of the narrative could have been slowed just a tad bit for more emphasis. For example phase, "stagnant... static...forever" could have been drawn out a bit more for dramatic effect. Also the line "Do you disagree with me... Good" could also had a slightly longer pause for dramatic effect as well.

Not to say that the video isn't totally awesome nonetheless. I've watched it about 7 times just for the fun of watching it!

This seriously needs to be a commercial and the creator given some sortof bonus for such good work.

Valentina Valentia
Caldari
State War Academy
Posted - 2011.08.15 07:49:00 - [48]
 

SO... when is that game coming out? it looks great! Is there an open beta? what company is making that!

I sure hope it is out by Christmas or before World War 3 starts and really ****s up the internet...

Ishtanchuk Fazmarai
Amarr
Posted - 2011.08.15 10:07:00 - [49]
 

Just one suggestion... don't change the voice acting. The poor microphone gives you a radio-like sound which is very appealing, whereas a better mike would end up filling your acting with all kind of ambient noise.

Some titles look a bit off their way and of course you could use HD to your advantage but it's a good video and grasps what CCP intended to do when they cared about excellence.

Mara Rinn
Posted - 2011.08.15 12:38:00 - [50]
 

Originally by: ****beardThePirate
I doubt your character would take cloning so frivolously if he realized you don't actually get reborn, you just get copied.


Did you know that in order to become a capsuleer you have to die? We don't care about that nonsense anymore - we're not who we were before our infomorph was implanted in a new body that happened to have all the appropriate implants in place. You surely didn't think they were surgically implanted?

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At least, this is what I've drawn from the "backstory" material on cloning.


Here's my attempt at explaining the process, presented in character as my escape from slavery.

Quote:
Want to add that I'm not a roleplayer of any description, just a media critic hobbyist, and your plot has holes.


Perhaps you need to familiarise yourself with the context of the role-play world that you're commenting on before you comment.

This isn't the real world. We're no deader after we get podded than we were before we were podded. We're no more alive when our consciousness is being burned into a new clone than we are when sitting down to tea with friends in that new clone body.

As capsuleers, meat is a necessary crutch to our existence, not the definition of that existence.

CCP Prism X


Gallente
C C P
C C P Alliance
Posted - 2011.08.15 12:54:00 - [51]
 

Well that was awesome in all possible aspects. Totally sharing this with people now!
I'm sure there are some areas that can be touched on but my amateur eyes and ears are certainly not picking up on it, so awesome first try! By the gods: Don't stop now! Wink

Stitcher
Caldari
Posted - 2011.08.15 13:37:00 - [52]
 

criticism from this thread and the youtube comments taken on board, and I'm producing a version which has been tweaked to enhance the "radio" effect rather than the "bad mic" effect, and also adjusting the subtitles. Hope to have it up sometime this evening.

Stitcher
Caldari
Posted - 2011.08.15 14:50:00 - [53]
 

Edited by: Stitcher on 15/08/2011 14:51:56
Old video has been removed, and the new one is being uploaded... in glorious 1080p HD. Cool

The changes are subtle, but I think the result is an improved video. let me know what you think!

...once it's up, of course :D

Linda Shadowborn
Gallente
Dark Steel Industries
Posted - 2011.08.15 15:38:00 - [54]
 

Originally by: Stitcher
Edited by: Stitcher on 15/08/2011 14:51:56
Old video has been removed, and the new one is being uploaded... in glorious 1080p HD. Cool

The changes are subtle, but I think the result is an improved video. let me know what you think!

...once it's up, of course :D


*tapps foot waiting* is it fixed yet

is it fixed.. yet

is it ..fixed.. yet

Jayem See
Caldari
Alien Ruffneck Force
Ignes Immortalis
Posted - 2011.08.15 15:41:00 - [55]
 

Very good work fella. Nothing but respect for the people that take the time to make vids like this.

+1&2&3

Kudos

Stitcher
Caldari
Posted - 2011.08.15 15:53:00 - [56]
 

Originally by: Linda Shadowborn
*tapps foot waiting* is it fixed yet

is it fixed.. yet

is it ..fixed.. yet


Upload timer estimates 110 minutes. slow internet is slow.

Linda Shadowborn
Gallente
Dark Steel Industries
Posted - 2011.08.15 15:58:00 - [57]
 

Originally by: Stitcher
Originally by: Linda Shadowborn
*tapps foot waiting* is it fixed yet

is it fixed.. yet

is it ..fixed.. yet


Upload timer estimates 110 minutes. slow internet is slow.


Has it been 110 minutes yet? *ducks and laughs* Allright! Ill go back to work for another 2 hours then.. *pouts* meany

Stitcher
Caldari
Posted - 2011.08.15 17:44:00 - [58]
 

Linkage

"Dystopian Heaven" v2.0 is now live on Youtube, in HD!

Linda Shadowborn
Gallente
Dark Steel Industries
Posted - 2011.08.15 17:54:00 - [59]
 

Originally by: Stitcher
Linkage

"Dystopian Heaven" v2.0 is now live on Youtube, in HD!


oo very nice :)

DeliciousHamBeast
Caldari
A.J.M
Posted - 2011.08.15 18:15:00 - [60]
 

That was excellent! I thought the voice fit well, better than the usual 'stern british gentleman'.


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