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Paul L Atreides
Posted - 2011.08.12 22:55:00 - [1]
 

http://games.chruker.dk/eve_online/item.php?type_id=12821

i`m quite a noob in manufacturing stuff ... how much time takes to make one copy with 100 runs ? 4 months and a half with science V or i understood wrong ? ugh

And what would be the maximum price you would pay on this bpo .

Celeritas 5k
Connoisseurs of Candid Coitus
Posted - 2011.08.13 00:14:00 - [2]
 

You don't care how long it would take, because you won't work with t2 bpo's.

Read some of the invention guides in the resources sticky.

Paul L Atreides
Posted - 2011.08.13 00:18:00 - [3]
 

Edited by: Paul L Atreides on 13/08/2011 00:18:53
the thing is i might work with this specific t2 bpo , that`s why i am price checking it too ugh

Franny
Mentis Seorsum
Posted - 2011.08.13 00:22:00 - [4]
 

no SANE person would copy a T2 BPO these days(and few did pre invention)

it takes roughly twice as long to copy as to make
so in the time you copy it once, you could have made it twice

Celeritas 5k
Connoisseurs of Candid Coitus
Posted - 2011.08.13 00:24:00 - [5]
 

Originally by: Paul L Atreides
Edited by: Paul L Atreides on 13/08/2011 00:18:53
the thing is i might work with this specific t2 bpo , that`s why i am price checking it too ugh


No, you won't. T2 bpo's cost billions of ISK; if you want to manufacture t2 you'll do invention.

Spend 15 minutes reading guides, please.


Delta Mande
Posted - 2011.08.13 09:40:00 - [6]
 

As said T2 BPOs cost billions.

If you think you can make a profit by inventing large laser crystals I advise you to run the numbers first.

Franny
Mentis Seorsum
Posted - 2011.08.13 13:00:00 - [7]
 

don't tell him there is no profit in L crystals
it's fun to watch people ragequit wehn they go bankrupt

Dracnys
Caldari
Posted - 2011.08.13 15:33:00 - [8]
 

Originally by: Celeritas 5k
Originally by: Paul L Atreides
Edited by: Paul L Atreides on 13/08/2011 00:18:53
the thing is i might work with this specific t2 bpo , that`s why i am price checking it too ugh


No, you won't. T2 bpo's cost billions of ISK; if you want to manufacture t2 you'll do invention.

Spend 15 minutes reading guides, please.




If you manufacture you gain twice as much money out of your T2 BPO than if you copied it. You propose to copy it first and then manufacture with the copy, which takes twice as much time as just manufacturing with the BPO. Now if you sell the BPCs instead of manufacturing them yourself you get what? The price for normal invention of the BPC and a bit extra for more ME. If you manufacture you gain that exact value as your extra profit over people who do invention. In manufacturing you simply profit twice as fast.

If you want to mass-produce T2 you want to do invention. If you want to make a very long-run investment you manufacture with a T2 BPO.

Jdestars
Stars Research systems Incorporation
Posted - 2011.08.14 21:16:00 - [9]
 

Edited by: Jdestars on 14/08/2011 21:30:43
if you havent the skill for produce this you can sell copy of bpo during the wait of skilling .

Many month for ME /PE ... no wrong

Price of Bpo T2 ...good question
the marging of BPO T2 felt down after Invention Introduction .

Examine the Max produce with the bpo per month /per Year
Examine selling price of Item produce ..
Evaluat the Cost produce ( easy no statistic invention do calcute)
you obtain the margin , now you have just choice how many you want to pay it and number of year to "pay off" the bpo

Export Db ( not fresh )
Quote:

typeid 12821
groupid 726
typename Scorch L Blueprint
baseprice 0,00
marketgroupid
productTypeID 12820
productionTime 80000
techLevel 2
researchProductivityTime 480000
researchMaterialTime 320000
researchCopyTime 800000
researchTechTime 1200000
productivityModifier 16000
materialModifier 5
wasteFactor 10
chanceOfReverseEngineering 0
maxProductionLimit 10



researchMaterialTime 320000 ( so long time )

Braiel
Gas Giant Industries
Gas Giant Inter Global
Posted - 2011.08.15 14:36:00 - [10]
 

Originally by: Franny
no SANE person would copy a T2 BPO these days(and few did pre invention)

it takes roughly twice as long to copy as to make
so in the time you copy it once, you could have made it twice


Consider your assumption that supposts your statement might not alway apply.

There could be much more profit to be had making at copy along with decreased sell time. Little material management is also a plus.

Franny
Mentis Seorsum
Posted - 2011.08.16 10:09:00 - [11]
 

Originally by: Braiel
Originally by: Franny
no SANE person would copy a T2 BPO these days(and few did pre invention)

it takes roughly twice as long to copy as to make
so in the time you copy it once, you could have made it twice


Consider your assumption that supposts your statement might not alway apply.

There could be much more profit to be had making at copy along with decreased sell time. Little material management is also a plus.

copying of T2 bpos requires materials too... granted less stuff than to make, but a 100% cut in profits
so unless it is a super slow seller(1 or 2 a month?) and you are just amassing for when it gets boosted??? I can't think of a valid reason to shoot yourself in the foot Laughing

Jdestars
Stars Research systems Incorporation
Posted - 2011.08.16 11:32:00 - [12]
 

If the margin is lower than the sale price of the number of copy being able to be then made in 1 month the resale of bpc is then preferable
But you can also wait for the drying out of stocks... ( long long wait )


Braiel
Gas Giant Industries
Gas Giant Inter Global
Posted - 2011.08.16 22:36:00 - [13]
 

Originally by: Franny

copying of T2 bpos requires materials too...
I can't think of a valid reason to shoot yourself in the foot Laughing


Two items for a copy job is much less time consuming then multiple components along with materials and multiple production slots.

It is a slow seller but a staple. It will retains its value if it stays the same, is nerfed, or buffed.

Shooting myself in the foot for 10m a day for one copy job.



Sinistrea
Posted - 2011.08.22 11:10:00 - [14]
 

Originally by: Franny
no SANE person would copy a T2 BPO these days(and few did pre invention)



got a sb a interceptor and a combat recon in copying.
right now it's to annoying to build/haul so copying it made the most sense

sorry I just felt like it :D


 

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