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illkrillz
Posted - 2011.08.12 15:56:00 - [1]
 

Hello,

I have been having trouble getting a Sleipnir fit that can successfully solo a C3 wh, and was hoping somenody who has done this could provide some feedback or suggestions.

I really love flying this ship, and it works great for fleet ops, but I frequently have time to solo our statics but just barely fall short everytime.

The current setup I'm using allows me to easily tank the fortifaction stronghold's last wave of 2BS's and 3 Cruisers. The problem is, that with this set up I have dropped the MWD, and the DPS is not strong enough from the 20-30km range, even with fall off bonus and 220's, to do enough damage before chewing threw my 800s.

I have also tried using a pith b-type XL-booster w/ a CN amplifier, but the tank with 2 invuls is stronger, and much cheaper.

Here is my current fit:

--hi--
7x 220m II
1x probe launcher
--mid--
1x MCB II
1x CN amp
1x XL shield booster II
2x inuv. field II
--low--
1x DCU II
1x co pro II
1x PDS II
2x Gyro II
--rigs--
x2 cap safeguard II

I have not yet tried a passive set up. If anybody could please share a fit that have used to successfully do a C3, that would be great. I know it can be done, but I think I am just missing something.

Thanks,






Charelz Barkli
Posted - 2011.08.12 21:52:00 - [2]
 

Edited by: Charelz Barkli on 12/08/2011 21:52:40
[Sleipnir, C3 Sleip]
Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer
Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer
Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer
Tracking Enhancer II
Damage Control II

Pithum C-Type Medium Shield Booster
Shield Boost Amplifier II
Invulnerability Field II
Invulnerability Field II
10MN Afterburner II

720mm Howitzer Artillery II, Phased Plasma M
720mm Howitzer Artillery II, Phased Plasma M
720mm Howitzer Artillery II, Phased Plasma M
720mm Howitzer Artillery II, Phased Plasma M
720mm Howitzer Artillery II, Phased Plasma M
720mm Howitzer Artillery II, Phased Plasma M
720mm Howitzer Artillery II, Phased Plasma M
Core Probe Launcher I, Sisters Core Scanner Probe I

Medium Capacitor Control Circuit II
Medium Capacitor Control Circuit II


Warrior II x5
Warrior II x3

514 DPS, range is 17+43 (594 w/ drones)
551 DPS tanked (83/77/72/77)
Cap stable @ 43%.



Arazel Chainfire
The Awakened Armada
Apex United
Posted - 2011.08.12 22:40:00 - [3]
 

[Sleipnir, WH Arty]
Gyrostabilizer II
Gyrostabilizer II
Gyrostabilizer II
Power Diagnostic System II
Capacitor Flux Coil II

10MN Afterburner II
Pithum C-Type Medium Shield Booster
Invulnerability Field II
Invulnerability Field II
Shield Boost Amplifier II

720mm Howitzer Artillery II, Republic Fleet EMP M
720mm Howitzer Artillery II, Republic Fleet EMP M
720mm Howitzer Artillery II, Republic Fleet EMP M
720mm Howitzer Artillery II, Republic Fleet EMP M
720mm Howitzer Artillery II, Republic Fleet EMP M
720mm Howitzer Artillery II, Republic Fleet EMP M
720mm Howitzer Artillery II, Republic Fleet EMP M
[empty high slot]

Medium Projectile Burst Aerator II
Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I

Hobgoblin II x5

I used this to good effect, though the tank is a bit thin unless you have either crystals or a fleet booster. It is enough provided that you keep moving, and is cap stable even under neuting. The empty highslot I either put a probe launcher, a cloak, or some other module that seems useful at the time.

-Arazel

illkrillz
Posted - 2011.08.13 19:24:00 - [4]
 

Thanks for posting these fits. I am going give these a shot today. I ran them through eft, and it's a bit tight for power grid, but I like the concept of using the arties and med booster.

Thanks again!!

Xyfu
Minmatar
Love From Above
Posted - 2011.08.27 19:12:00 - [5]
 

The Sleip is the best non-BS ship for soloing C3s. I don't know why you don't have a salvager.

My current fit:

Sisters Core probe launcher
salvager II
6 425s, loaded with phased plasma (it's cheap, and you're gonna be using a lot of it)

Gistum B MWD (Aw yeeee)
Gist B XLSB (AWWW YEEEEEEE)
Invuln II
Cap recharger II
cap recharger II

cap flux coil II
cap flux coil II
RF gyro
RF gyro
RF gyro

CCC II
CCC II

warrior Is.

I've yet to find a setup that does more DPS, and still has both a salvager and a probe launcher. T3 looks good, but you NEED a scanning alt if you want any DPS whatsoever.

BSs of course outperform, but I'm not sure how well they do with frigs, and cloaky rapier/arazu gangs. Also, Sleips are sexy as ****, and it's like 550 DPS in an unbonusing system. Gets through sites very quickly.

My old fit had one more invuln and a Gist C LSB, but this tanks more, and is more expensive, so my ***** feels bigger.

grumpyguts1
Posted - 2011.08.29 00:39:00 - [6]
 

Originally by: Xyfu
The Sleip is the best non-BS ship for soloing C3s. I don't know why you don't have a salvager.

My current fit:

Sisters Core probe launcher
salvager II
6 425s, loaded with phased plasma (it's cheap, and you're gonna be using a lot of it)

Gistum B MWD (Aw yeeee)
Gist B XLSB (AWWW YEEEEEEE)
Invuln II
Cap recharger II
cap recharger II

cap flux coil II
cap flux coil II
RF gyro
RF gyro
RF gyro

CCC II
CCC II

warrior Is.

I've yet to find a setup that does more DPS, and still has both a salvager and a probe launcher. T3 looks good, but you NEED a scanning alt if you want any DPS whatsoever.

BSs of course outperform, but I'm not sure how well they do with frigs, and cloaky rapier/arazu gangs. Also, Sleips are sexy as ****, and it's like 550 DPS in an unbonusing system. Gets through sites very quickly.

My old fit had one more invuln and a Gist C LSB, but this tanks more, and is more expensive, so my ***** feels bigger.


Don't see how AC's are going to get you through the C3 anoms with BS orbiting past 20km and 1 which tries to keep 65km away while neuting you. You also have to deal with being webbed and neuted constantly. Just don't see it working, ut if you say you use it.. I would have to maybe believe. Just from experience a solo tengu needs to be around 50% cap stable to make it through without running low on cap.
BTW, yet to see a solo BS making it through C3 anom.

Xyfu
Minmatar
Love From Above
Posted - 2011.08.29 03:45:00 - [7]
 

Originally by: grumpyguts1
Originally by: Xyfu
The Sleip is the best non-BS ship for soloing C3s. I don't know why you don't have a salvager.

My current fit:

Sisters Core probe launcher
salvager II
6 425s, loaded with phased plasma (it's cheap, and you're gonna be using a lot of it)

Gistum B MWD (Aw yeeee)
Gist B XLSB (AWWW YEEEEEEE)
Invuln II
Cap recharger II
cap recharger II

cap flux coil II
cap flux coil II
RF gyro
RF gyro
RF gyro

CCC II
CCC II

warrior Is.

I've yet to find a setup that does more DPS, and still has both a salvager and a probe launcher. T3 looks good, but you NEED a scanning alt if you want any DPS whatsoever.

BSs of course outperform, but I'm not sure how well they do with frigs, and cloaky rapier/arazu gangs. Also, Sleips are sexy as ****, and it's like 550 DPS in an unbonusing system. Gets through sites very quickly.

My old fit had one more invuln and a Gist C LSB, but this tanks more, and is more expensive, so my ***** feels bigger.


Don't see how AC's are going to get you through the C3 anoms with BS orbiting past 20km and 1 which tries to keep 65km away while neuting you. You also have to deal with being webbed and neuted constantly. Just don't see it working, ut if you say you use it.. I would have to maybe believe. Just from experience a solo tengu needs to be around 50% cap stable to make it through without running low on cap.
BTW, yet to see a solo BS making it through C3 anom.
The thing is cap stable on its own with both the XLSB AND the MWD running. So long as you spiral in on the 2 BSs that have ever given me trouble, and leave the SB off for a short while, (and don't sit around herping and crying that your cap is going down), you're golden. This is a C3, not a level V.

The webbing is never that much of an issue, due to the fact I can permarun my MWD. I've never had an issue, but that might just be me flying properly. The most numerous webbing comes from frigates anyway, and they're not all that great at not turning to space-dust in the face of 425s.

The tengu is not solo, as it doesn't have a probe launcher, or, a salvager. If it has both, it has like 23 DPS.

I still want to test the Tempest in C3s. I'm fairly certain it can outperform the Sleip.

Arazel Chainfire
The Awakened Armada
Apex United
Posted - 2011.08.29 13:43:00 - [8]
 

Why the hell should I put a probe launcher and a salvager on the sleipnir, and deliberately gimp myself that way. After all, I can run 5 sites or so, then come back in a noctis (or other salvaging ship of choice), loot and salvage in relative saftey (after all, they would need combat probes to find the noctis, which you can see on scan), and make more isk faster that way. As for probing, thats what having a dedicated probing ship is for, rather than dinking around with a completely unbonused prober.

Additionally, having artillery means that you can hit your target for optimal damage at 15km instead of 1.5, and you can switch out to quake to pop out more DPS than your autocannon fit, while still spending less isk. You can also swap out for longer range ammo, or better tracking ammo if you need it to swat down anyone who you don't feel like moving closer to. This is all while being better for gangwork than the autocannon fit when you can get a gang together. Lastly, the only expensive mod on that sleipnir fit is the shield booster, which runs for about 400mil (if you have ganglinks available to you, you can actually drop it down to dread guristas). This is as compared to your fit which has a booster worth 500mil and a MWD worth another 315mil. Yes, I know, running sites makes you lots of isk. That being said, I would rather spend my isk on other things than pimping out a ship that under performs already, just to make it remotely competitive.

-Arazel

Imustbecomfused
Close Proximity
Posted - 2011.09.02 00:07:00 - [9]
 

If you're not taking ships down with a 600 dps command ship, then you are doing it wrong. period. besides, the sleip likes auto cannons more... Evil or Very Mad

Daniel Plain
Posted - 2011.09.02 14:26:00 - [10]
 

Originally by: Arazel Chainfire
Why the hell should I put a probe launcher and a salvager on the sleipnir, and deliberately gimp myself that way.


...so I had this one C3 close in front of my nose with 7 finished and bookmarked sites in it...

Am Li
Caldari
0ne Percent.
Posted - 2011.09.02 16:03:00 - [11]
 

Hmm, you all seem to be lost in active tanking. Sure the sleip gets a bonus to it but most sites will suck you dry faster than fire. what i run is 7x 425 IIs probe launcher in highs, 4x lse2s + 10mn mwd, 4x sprs and a gyro + purger rigs.

You need a 400dps tank for all non-radar/mag sites (600 for those, which you can get with leadership+mindlink+link if you have a friend or alt)

Arazel Chainfire
The Awakened Armada
Apex United
Posted - 2011.09.02 17:05:00 - [12]
 

Edited by: Arazel Chainfire on 02/09/2011 17:05:16
Originally by: Am Li
Hmm, you all seem to be lost in active tanking. Sure the sleip gets a bonus to it but most sites will suck you dry faster than fire. what i run is 7x 425 IIs probe launcher in highs, 4x lse2s + 10mn mwd, 4x sprs and a gyro + purger rigs.

You need a 400dps tank for all non-radar/mag sites (600 for those, which you can get with leadership+mindlink+link if you have a friend or alt)


You are an idiot. I'm sorry, there is no way to be polite about it. Passive tanking occasionally makes sense. For the most part though, you are blowing up your sig radius, taking additional damage, and reducing the amount of damage that you can deal. Neuting in C3's is pathetic - the only time that I have ever had problems with it is in some of the mag/radar sites with 2 neuting battleships... and having 600+ gun dps is enough to drop them before they can drop you. How much dps does your fit have? 300? and that only at 1.5km? At that point you are better off in a nighthawk, which can at least do ITS meager dps at range.

-Arazel


 

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