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mxzf
Minmatar
Shovel Bros
Posted - 2011.08.12 15:00:00 - [1]
 

Ok, I know it's completely off the wall, but I was wondering what the signature radius of an asteroid is. Does anyone know off-hand? I know it's not like the rock is running off anywhere, but I was somewhat curious.

Cyniac
Gallente
Twilight Star Rangers
Posted - 2011.08.12 15:08:00 - [2]
 

Dunno but it must be really really small because I can never scan down single asteroids - only full belts.

Viscount Hood
Gallivanting Travel Company
Band of Wanderers
Posted - 2011.08.12 15:11:00 - [3]
 

I always wondered how people found hidden asteroids. I know of a few and have the bm's where you can warp to a few asteroids in the middle of the system. How did they find them in the first place?

Xearal
Minmatar
SOL Industries
Black Thorne Alliance
Posted - 2011.08.12 15:17:00 - [4]
 

If you did your tutorial missions, you'd know this ;)

It's called a Gravimetric Site. you scan them down with exploration.

mxzf
Minmatar
Shovel Bros
Posted - 2011.08.12 15:29:00 - [5]
 

Sorry, maybe I wasn't clear. I don't have any issue scanning them down with probes, I do that a ton. I was referring to the locking time on an asteroid based on its sig.

Viscount Hood
Gallivanting Travel Company
Band of Wanderers
Posted - 2011.08.12 15:45:00 - [6]
 

Originally by: Xearal
If you did your tutorial missions, you'd know this ;)

It's called a Gravimetric Site. you scan them down with exploration.



Maybe I've been around longer than you. These roid belts existed long before gravimetric sites were even conceived.

Tau Cabalander
Posted - 2011.08.12 17:53:00 - [7]
 

Edited by: Tau Cabalander on 12/08/2011 18:19:24
Originally by: mxzf
Ok, I know it's completely off the wall, but I was wondering what the signature radius of an asteroid is. Does anyone know off-hand? I know it's not like the rock is running off anywhere, but I was somewhat curious.
Asteroids, even the smallest looking ones, seem to have the same size signature, and it is pretty big. A wild and untested guess would be battleship-size (400 m) or larger (1000 m).

Locking time isn't even an issue when you mine, as a Hulk can lock 6 targets (current 3 asteroids and the next 3).

In w-space I fit a wstab which really hurts targeting, but it still doesn't make much difference (especially with huge asteroids where you rarely need to re-target).

Originally by: Viscount Hood
I always wondered how people found hidden asteroids. I know of a few and have the bm's where you can warp to a few asteroids in the middle of the system. How did they find them in the first place?
Use at least 4 core probes and core probe launcher (or and expanded probe launcher), and preferably a scanning bonused ship (T1 probe frigates: Heron, Imicus, Magnate, Probe; or Covert Ops, or Strategic cruisers with the appropriate electronics subsystem) fit with Gravity Capacitor rigs. I recommend you do the exploration tutorial.

When you scan gravimetric sites (and other exploration sites) you are NOT scanning the asteroids, rather you are scanning a hidden beacon. At one time the beacon was visible, but it was hidden several patches ago because seeing it wasn't realistic. I believe the beacon was labelled "subspace signature".

Signatures come in 3 basic sizes, large (4x), medium (2x), and small (1x) with the quality of the site increasing as the signature gets smaller. There are some signatures (a few wormholes) between these basic sizes, but they seem to be an exception rather than the general rule. Of course, I've not tested this outside of w-space. The vast majority of all wormholes have a large (4x) signature, but there are a few 3x and some small (1x).

Steve Thomas
Minmatar
Sebiestor Tribe
Posted - 2011.08.12 21:21:00 - [8]
 

Originally by: Viscount Hood
I always wondered how people found hidden asteroids. I know of a few and have the bm's where you can warp to a few asteroids in the middle of the system. How did they find them in the first place?
there were a few static locations from waaaay back for sights, complexes and missions. a lot of them were basicaly left in place for whatever reason but the markers that showed up in the overview were just removed.


many of them have been removed over time.

Steve Thomas
Minmatar
Sebiestor Tribe
Posted - 2011.08.12 21:26:00 - [9]
 

Originally by: Xearal
If you did your tutorial missions, you'd know this ;)

It's called a Gravimetric Site. you scan them down with exploration.

no hes talking about some of the oddball places that are still in the game for whatever reason. some of the original newbi tutorial deadspace sights for example are (or were a few months ago) still in the systems, just missing the gates and beacons

mxzf
Minmatar
Shovel Bros
Posted - 2011.08.13 21:14:00 - [10]
 

Originally by: Tau Cabalander
Asteroids, even the smallest looking ones, seem to have the same size signature, and it is pretty big. A wild and untested guess would be battleship-size (400 m) or larger (1000 m).


Thank you, that's what I was wondering about.

Loraine Gess
Posted - 2011.08.13 21:20:00 - [11]
 

Originally by: Cyniac
Dunno but it must be really really small because I can never scan down single asteroids - only full belts.




...I hope this was a joke

Cyniac
Gallente
Twilight Star Rangers
Posted - 2011.08.14 11:17:00 - [12]
 

Originally by: Loraine Gess
Originally by: Cyniac
Dunno but it must be really really small because I can never scan down single asteroids - only full belts.




...I hope this was a joke



Your hopes have been fulfilled - I guess I just have a convoluted sense of humour.


 

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