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Raze Valadeus
Amarr
Knighthood of the Merciful Crown
Posted - 2011.08.13 01:59:00 - [31]
 

In humility I state that any further interrogation toward Paladin Farel should be taken up with her and KotMC privately.

I was in error to bring this discussion before the public and I was in error to respond as I have to those within the Empire that seek only to serve their faith in God and Empire.

In humility, I request that any further discussion regarding Paladin Farel's beliefs be handled appropriately, within the channels available to the faithful and in a manner becoming of the Empire and its loyal citizens and defenders.

While the debate over theology and beliefs is welcome to continue and I will continue to contribute to it, I believe we all do a dishonor to ourselves, to our God and to our Empire by crucifying a defender of the Empire publicly without first approaching them in private to challenge them and earnestly listen to their answers. I humbly request that we afford Paladin Farel this decency and cease further deliberation in public.

Ryven Krennel
Caldari
Knighthood of the Merciful Crown
Posted - 2011.08.13 02:01:00 - [32]
 

Good idea. I'm behind that.

Koronakesh
Amarr
Seekers of a Silent Paradise
Posted - 2011.08.13 07:00:00 - [33]
 

Here's to hoping you continue to flagrantly disregard the 'internal' aspect of such discussions in the future, Raze. It's so much more entertaining when you don't pick up on that part until after publically calling the person out.

Aldrith Shutaq
Amarr
Knighthood of the Merciful Crown
Posted - 2011.08.13 08:21:00 - [34]
 

This is what people get for being too mouthy: a great big Koronakesh hard-on greeting them in the morning.

Soak it in knights, I hope you are proud of yourselves.

Ava Starfire
Minmatar
Teraa Matar
Posted - 2011.08.13 11:45:00 - [35]
 

Well, look at the bright side, Knighthood.

What you have done, and are doing, is making people nervous enough to squeal and cry about it.

I would say, job well done?

Lyn Farel
Knighthood of the Merciful Crown
Posted - 2011.08.13 11:59:00 - [36]
 

Edited by: Lyn Farel on 13/08/2011 12:00:26
For those that still doubt my Faith, here is the answer :

Originally by: Gosakumori Noh
The will of heaven is not where inaccuracy lies. It is our understanding of that will which must necessarily remain always incomplete, for we are finite entities trying to understand an infinite command. The fairy tales you hold in such high regard are intended to start us on our path, not end it. If you do not rise above finite text, you will remain forever separated from that which you so conspicuously claim to revere.



For the false inquisitors lurking here and polluting this topic :

Originally by: Book of Trials
The weak of mind are quick to judge with slightest tempt;
Thus fools go forth to spread false word,
Great misery follows those who heed what only the weak have heard.
- The Scriptures, Book of Trials 2:13 - 2:21



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Originally by: Saikoyu
Edited by: Saikoyu on 12/08/2011 22:47:47
Miss Farel.

While I do not think these calls for violence against you are serious, in the case that they are, I would offer you temporary sanctuary in Rho Dynamics. There are offices in low security space if you find your current standing to the Minmatar a hindrance. There would be no requirements, other than to not shoot at anything that did not fire at you first, and to not fire at any Republic or Federation ships. But hopefully this will blow over without incident.

EDIT: Please excuse me for my slow posting of this message, I had not read the previous two messages when I started. But the offer still stands, just in case.



You have my thanks for your concerns and proposal. Even if I do not think I will need a sanctuary, I will certainly keep it in mind. The only thing at stake here is my Holder status, but ultimately, it is up to the moral authorities to take a decision about it. As you might have noticed, nothing has really been serious until the recent events came up, where it would appear that I finally went a little too far.

Ultimately, I remain a capsuleer before all, and by my status am untouchable by mortal laws.

Originally by: Ryven Krennel
How cute. My ethnicity gets drawn into this. My conversion to the faith, however, seems unimportant. Caldari born, orphan raised, amarr by choice. The God she denied is my own. I simply understand that pragmatism makes her an asset.


Thank you for your support. In any case, firstly as you point it out, this joke is a show of hypocrisy when converted people get insulted for their origins before God. Secondly, I never denied God. I am ready to admit that my full explanations were probably difficult to grasp in the place of a simple "I believe in God", though if one wants to actually read what I wrote (in its context), one will understand that I never denied God.

Originally by: Mitara Newelle


Originally by: Aldrith Shutaq
Tear away Admiral, all Knights are free to speak as they wish, and suffer the consequences of their words on their own.


Here we are.

Now, if you please, Grandmaster Shutaq... Stand aside.




Then I shall wait for you.

Raze Valadeus
Amarr
Knighthood of the Merciful Crown
Posted - 2011.08.13 12:25:00 - [37]
 

Paladin Farel,

I will thank you for taking the time to answer me despite the stirring I have unfortunately caused in the wake of my attempt for an earnest discussion. Ultimately, I apologize for my wording, I accused you rather than sought clarification. This should not have been done and I can only seek your forgiveness for that.


Lyn Farel
Knighthood of the Merciful Crown
Posted - 2011.08.13 13:04:00 - [38]
 

Originally by: Raze Valadeus
Paladin Farel,

I will thank you for taking the time to answer me despite the stirring I have unfortunately caused in the wake of my attempt for an earnest discussion. Ultimately, I apologize for my wording, I accused you rather than sought clarification. This should not have been done and I can only seek your forgiveness for that.




Thank you for your support, it is greatly appreciated.

Conventia Underking
Amarr
PIE Inc.
Posted - 2011.08.18 21:41:00 - [39]
 

It is always great to see a happy ending to any misunderstanding. Go with God, brothers and sisters.

Amarr Victor.


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