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Bane Necran
Minmatar
Posted - 2011.08.08 21:53:00 - [31]
 

Originally by: Ultim8Evil
TL;DR

Some black gangnoob quite rightly gets shot dead by "dem white man" Police.

Black friends and black family claim he was innocent.

Aformentioned black friends and black family start "peaceful" protest.


I see mostly white people in all the videos.

At least in baltec's version they're all chavs. Every one of them. So you can hate them for being black without being racist. Laughing

baltec1
Posted - 2011.08.08 22:09:00 - [32]
 

Originally by: Bane Necran


At least in baltec's version they're all chavs. Every one of them. So you can hate them for being black without being racist. Laughing


Multiculturism at its bestWink

Anyway latest is the riots are still going on with fires popping up all over the place in two cities now. Prime minister is on his way back from holiday and will hold a meeting of cobra in the morning.

Jhagiti Tyran
Muppet Ninja's
Ninja Unicorns with Huge Horns
Posted - 2011.08.08 22:10:00 - [33]
 

The Violence has spread to Birmingham to. Quite funny to see Teresa May blame "sheer criminality" and claim it has "nothing to do with social or economic issues".

So several generations of young people, many of whom are from ethnic minority's, who received a poor education, have no prospects and live in ****hole communities and probably only turned out the way they have because of how/where and when they where brought up has nothing to do with it.

Because of course a whole group of disaffected youths isn't a social or economic reason, it doesn't justify it of course but it is what it is and those are the causes.

They have no respect for authority because in most cases authority figures have never, ever been of benefit to them, the people in uniforms or suits generally tend to make their lives difficult, often when they did nothing to warrant it.

Fortunatly noones been killed yet but if people still keep lighting fires that could soon change.

baltec1
Posted - 2011.08.08 22:28:00 - [34]
 

Originally by: Jhagiti Tyran
The Violence has spread to Birmingham to. Quite funny to see Teresa May blame "sheer criminality" and claim it has "nothing to do with social or economic issues".




2302: Via Email Ashley in Clapham Junction writes: Just been watching a BMW x5 pull up, eight guys congregate around it for five mins putting their hoodies on and then they have run off to Battersea Rise to rob stuff. People been running up our road with televisions, hiding nicked stuff in gardens and under cars and then running back down for more. So many cars and vans are turning up with people just loading up. I can hear the alarms going off at the end of the road. All the people sound young, and they are laughing and enjoying themselves.


Sounds like criminals to me.

Ultim8Evil
Ministry Of Eternal Disorder
Posted - 2011.08.08 22:37:00 - [35]
 

Originally by: Jhagiti Tyran
So several generations of young people, many of whom are from ethnic minority's, who received a poor education, have no prospects and live in ****hole communities


They could always **** off back where they came from and see how much better life is there?

Biting (or in this case, burning) the hand that feeds them.

The Syrian police have the right attitude to rioters.

mogwai
Gallente
Sparks of Insanity
Posted - 2011.08.08 22:40:00 - [36]
 

i kinda liked the pic of the rioter walking across the street with the can of 'special brew' in his hand Laughing

Blacksquirrel
Posted - 2011.08.08 22:47:00 - [37]
 

Edited by: Blacksquirrel on 08/08/2011 22:49:44
What I read was.

Police were following suspect.
For some reason stop him ahead instead of continuing to tail him.
4 shots are heard by witnesses
Cop is injured (Dont say how)
Police radio has a bullet in it.
Suspect was shot. Heard from BBC that h had a gun...then heard "were not sure"
Internal police show up at crime scene faster than usual.
Cop told not to say anything under some sort of house arrest/leave.
Family protests peacefully outside station.

Crowd forms and starts rioting near station.
Crowd cant destroy all that much at station so **** with other peoples **** instead of continuing at the cops.

Seems similar to the college rate hike stuff... Meaning people were cool until others that weren't students showed up to destroy **** and dont care about the actual matter at hand.

Cnn just reported riots over shooting... BBC went into a bit more detail about the shooting and how the riots began.


Quote:
They could always **** off back where they came from and see how much better life is there?

Biting (or in this case, burning) the hand that feeds them.

The Syrian police have the right attitude to rioters.


Damn can't believe I read that... So people should be squashed with tanks by their own government for wanting to elect their own government, and be allowed to leave their own country legally instead of having to sneak out? Or say be allowed to have a free press in terms of publication or freedom to read what they want?

Tai Meijer
Caldari
Malkutha
Posted - 2011.08.08 22:56:00 - [38]
 

Typical filth behavior, sure the rioters are a bunch of naughty little feckers, but that's what the filth are counting on, it all starting when they gunned someone down (after lying about him firing at him) and understandably people got angry.

But i can't shake the feeling that this is all orchestrated, not to go all tin foil on people, but the filth have been whining about cuts to their pension, all of a sudden they 'can't manage' and 'it would be hard to control the streets' if they had their pensions cut, the funny thing is, they have handled things for a long time, and the cuts havn't even really started to kick in for them.

All this is, is the filth starting a fight by gunning down an innocent man, and then backing of when people get angry and saying to the goverment 'look what happens! And you want to cut our numbers?' scum, sack them and replace them, their are many who would do their job for the pay.

baltec1
Posted - 2011.08.08 23:07:00 - [39]
 

Originally by: Tai Meijer
Anti police tin foil rant.


Possibly the most clueless person on these forums.

Iggy Stooge
Gallente
Federal Navy Academy
Posted - 2011.08.08 23:07:00 - [40]
 

Originally by: Blacksquirrel
Edited by: Blacksquirrel on 08/08/2011 22:49:44
What I read was.

Police were following suspect.
For some reason stop him ahead instead of continuing to tail him.
4 shots are heard by witnesses
Cop is injured (Dont say how)
Police radio has a bullet in it. ---- The bullet came from a police issue gun
Suspect was shot. Heard from BBC that h had a gun...then heard "were not sure"---- gun recovered from scene was not a police issue gun, Is believed to have been found wrapped in a sock.
Internal police show up at crime scene faster than usual.
Cop told not to say anything under some sort of house arrest/leave.
Family protests peacefully outside station. ---- 16 year old girl goes up to police line asking for answers about shooting, is shield charged to the ground and beaten with batons. Crowd reacts.




jason hill
Caldari
Clan Shadow Wolf
Fatal Ascension
Posted - 2011.08.08 23:09:00 - [41]
 

lol skoools out for summer ! im ****ing my pants laughing at the way the chavs are acting Twisted Evil... i should make a pretty penny outta this minor little ruckus Very Happy... asnd no ..im not a copper

baltec1
Posted - 2011.08.08 23:24:00 - [42]
 

Originally by: Iggy Stooge

What I read was.

Police were following suspect.
For some reason stop him ahead instead of continuing to tail him.
4 shots are heard by witnesses
Cop is injured (Dont say how)
Police radio has a bullet in it. ---- The bullet came from a police issue gun

Rumor started by a paper, IPCC have yet to give any info on this

Suspect was shot. Heard from BBC that h had a gun...then heard "were not sure"---- gun recovered from scene was not a police issue gun, Is believed to have been found wrapped in a sock.

None police issue handgun confimed as found but rumor of it being in a sock is yet another rumor

Internal police show up at crime scene faster than usual.

IPCC always arrived very quickly after a shooting

Cop told not to say anything under some sort of house arrest/leave.
Family protests peacefully outside station. ---- 16 year old girl goes up to police line asking for answers about shooting, is shield charged to the ground and beaten with batons. Crowd reacts.


16 year old was NOT hit by a shield, it is yet another rumor




Fixed.

Karloth Valois
Clan Shadow Wolf
Fatal Ascension
Posted - 2011.08.08 23:29:00 - [43]
 

Given I live about 10 mins from one of the fire's they have been showing on the news, I'm guessing its all starting to carm down, havent heard a siren rush past in about half an hour. Thats the longest gap between them all night.

And just to prove not everyone in the area is a fire starting chav, there are already plans by groups of people to go into town tomorrow help civil services clean up.

Tai Meijer
Caldari
Malkutha
Posted - 2011.08.08 23:32:00 - [44]
 

Edited by: Tai Meijer on 08/08/2011 23:39:36

Originally by: baltec1
Originally by: Tai Meijer
Anti police tin foil rant.


Possibly the most clueless person on these forums.



Get a clue will you? Police have already said that the bullet came from one of their guns. Now go take your head for a dump.

Fact is, after stockwell, no one is going to trust the filth any more, and rightly so. Let's hope they get the hiding they deserve. "UPDATE 22.30 HRS

I’m starting to become very concerned that we may have been ‘Stockwelled’ by the original statement by the IPCC who said they believed that police may have been fired upon first.

It wouldn’t take this long to disclose that an empty case belonging to the non-police handgun was found thus proving a shot was fired at police.

MET ACPO will already know what happened." From gadget, oh dear...

baltec1
Posted - 2011.08.08 23:39:00 - [45]
 

Originally by: Tai Meijer


Get a clue will you? Police have already said that the bullet came from one of their guns. Now go take your head for a dump.

Fact is, after stockwell, no one is going to trust the filth any more, and rightly so. Let's hope they get the hiding they deserve.


I would like to see where you got this info as none of the media sources I have looked at are carrying this and the IPCC told the BBC this morning that no info on the shooting had been given.

Taedrin
Gallente
Kushan Industrial
Posted - 2011.08.08 23:40:00 - [46]
 

Edited by: Taedrin on 08/08/2011 23:46:15
Edited by: Taedrin on 08/08/2011 23:40:38
Hellsing Ultimate 8 was released around a week ago. Coincidence? I think not!

This is CLEARLY the work of evil **** vampire zombies.
http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e307/Pilipenko/Hellsing/Major.jpg

FAKE EDIT: Oh, **** is going to be censored, isn't it?

EDIT: Yup.

Image changed to URL. Zymurgist

Bart Starr
Posted - 2011.08.08 23:41:00 - [47]
 

Personally? The best solution to idiot rioters (London and elsewhere) is to have an armed population of store owners.

During the 1993 LA Riots, the Koreans sat on top of their stores with AK-47s and AR-15s, with plenty of large capacity magazines. Self defense was especially important, because many of them actually LIVED in their stores.

African-American rioters show up. Warning shots fired, and the rioters said, "Aw, **** man....lets burn down some other place."

It is a good example of why it is important that large capacity magazines are legal. A typical AK-47 banana clip holds 30 rounds - enough for several warning shots, plus the ability to quickly reload and put down an entire angry mob - should they continue their attack.

I somehow think the London rioters wouldn't be so bold and destructive in their violent activity, if the property owners were allowed to defend themselves with deadly force. And if a few of them end up shot, well, hey, maybe they shouldn't have been rioting. *shrug*


Tai Meijer
Caldari
Malkutha
Posted - 2011.08.08 23:42:00 - [48]
 

Originally by: baltec1
Originally by: Tai Meijer


Get a clue will you? Police have already said that the bullet came from one of their guns. Now go take your head for a dump.

Fact is, after stockwell, no one is going to trust the filth any more, and rightly so. Let's hope they get the hiding they deserve.


I would like to see where you got this info as none of the media sources I have looked at are carrying this and the IPCC told the BBC this morning that no info on the shooting had been given.


From a police inspector blog.

"UPDATE 22.30 HRS

I’m starting to become very concerned that we may have been ‘Stockwelled’ by the original statement by the IPCC who said they believed that police may have been fired upon first.


It wouldn’t take this long to disclose that an empty case belonging to the non-police handgun was found thus proving a shot was fired at police.

MET ACPO will already know what happened." IPCC initially said he fired, then they retracted that comment"

My bold, stop talking dross now ok?

Astenion
Gallente
Spiritus Draconis
Posted - 2011.08.08 23:50:00 - [49]
 

Originally by: Bart Starr
And while I'm not a 'Tea Party' member, I agree with their goals.


There is no membership to the Tea Party. If you agree with them, then you are part of it...and part of the problem.

Blacksquirrel
Posted - 2011.08.08 23:52:00 - [50]
 

Originally by: Bart Starr
Personally? The best solution to idiot rioters (London and elsewhere) is to have an armed population of store owners.

During the 1993 LA Riots, the Koreans sat on top of their stores with AK-47s and AR-15s, with plenty of large capacity magazines. Self defense was especially important, because many of them actually LIVED in their stores.

African-American rioters show up. Warning shots fired, and the rioters said, "Aw, **** man....lets burn down some other place."

It is a good example of why it is important that large capacity magazines are legal. A typical AK-47 banana clip holds 30 rounds - enough for several warning shots, plus the ability to quickly reload and put down an entire angry mob - should they continue their attack.

I somehow think the London rioters wouldn't be so bold and destructive in their violent activity, if the property owners were allowed to defend themselves with deadly force. And if a few of them end up shot, well, hey, maybe they shouldn't have been rioting. *shrug*




I always love the scenarios uber gun nuts come up with. And hell I like shooting and even own a gun. By that logic we should all be allowed to own 240G's in case the crowd is over 200, and the high capacity mags just wont cut it. If those fail perhaps a cannon with grapeshot. Napoleon did best know how to deal with a mob.

Or what if im a logger and my chain saw ran out of gas glad I have my mini gun to continue chipping down trees... We need to Russians to be powerful again to justify why everyone needs a mini armory in their house. All the other reason seem silly by comparison.

Herzog Wolfhammer
Gallente
Sigma Special Tactics Group
Posted - 2011.08.08 23:58:00 - [51]
 



Why I am reminded of that scene from "V for Vendetta"?

You know, the one where the "cop" shoots the kid.


How is this going to end?



Marwood Ford
Posted - 2011.08.09 00:03:00 - [52]
 

Originally by: Bart Starr
Personally? The best solution to idiot rioters (London and elsewhere) is to have an armed population of store owners.


Partial list of those killed in the LA riots from the New York Times, 4/5/92 (total death toll, 51):

http://www.nytimes.com/1992/05/04/us/riots-in-los-angeles-the-toll-some-of-50-killed-in-los-angeles-violence.html

But hey, you can't make an omlette...

Herzog Wolfhammer
Gallente
Sigma Special Tactics Group
Posted - 2011.08.09 00:07:00 - [53]
 

Edited by: Herzog Wolfhammer on 09/08/2011 00:15:27
Originally by: Astenion
Originally by: Bart Starr
And while I'm not a 'Tea Party' member, I agree with their goals.


There is no membership to the Tea Party. If you agree with them, then you are part of it...and part of the problem.



Which tea party?

**** Armeys coopted tea party? Bought and paid for by the GOP, as was the intention. Ol' ****s gotta have something to do I guess.

You see, when a movement gets hijacked, and I see people railing against the hijacked version as to give it more weight, I think it's either a case of ignorance, or another example of a "script reader". I expect radio station personel and media sock puppets (pundits) to be script readers because that's what they are paid for.

Everybody else is just half-paying attention. Do you keep the news on the TV in the background and not actually pay attention to it? Is it the FOX/CNN/MSNBC matrix? Bought and paid for. You have to make an effort to get real information. Always ask yourself: "If I believe what I am being told, who benefits from it?". In a land of weaponized democracy, everybody who votes and is ignorant is a weapon against humanity in one form or another.

I bring this up because there is an effort underway to control the arguments so that there are only two mindsets, one being a pro-socialist obamanoid mindset, and the other being a fascistic fake patriot statist mindset. Either way, those hwo see the false paradigms and the fake two-party system will be the first to go into the camps no matter which fake side wins.

In other words, you are displaying a kind of hateful blank-comment ignorance that, historically, ends in death camps.


Blacksquirrel
Posted - 2011.08.09 00:09:00 - [54]
 


Jhagiti Tyran
Muppet Ninja's
Ninja Unicorns with Huge Horns
Posted - 2011.08.09 00:10:00 - [55]
 

Thread title needs changing to "UK is burning", rioting in Birmingham and Liverpool now.

Also I am personally looking forward to David Cameron trying to justify the budget cuts the police have suffered.

Its obvious they cant cope, sure the police are resisting in some areas but in others its a rout, 20 coppers running from gangs of several hundred.

Nex apparatu5
Posted - 2011.08.09 00:22:00 - [56]
 

Originally by: Astenion
Originally by: Bart Starr
And while I'm not a 'Tea Party' member, I agree with their goals.


There is no membership to the Tea Party. If you agree with them, then you are part of it...and part of the problem.

Ahh, stereotyping at it's finest.

If you're a Republican or don't like Obama, you're a bible-thumping Faux News watching Teabagger.

God Bless America

Bart Starr
Posted - 2011.08.09 01:32:00 - [57]
 

Originally by: Astenion
Originally by: Bart Starr
And while I'm not a 'Tea Party' member, I agree with their goals.


There is no membership to the Tea Party. If you agree with them, then you are part of it...and part of the problem.


Yes, its essentially a grassroots movement, so I suppose in the strictest sense, there is no 'membership'. I just never have gone to any actual 'Tea Parties', mainly because I am working too many hours in the summer, and living abroad in the winter.

Tea Party events still look like fun, as far as protests go. Silly colonial costumes, "Don't tread on me" flags, anti-Obama signs, and oh, yeah - complete absence of police, rioting, and burning cars.

The classy, nonviolent nature of the Tea Party really makes leftwing protesters look like the mindless thugs they are. Cool

Kraven Stark
Caldari
Atavism Industries
Posted - 2011.08.09 01:49:00 - [58]
 

Edited by: Kraven Stark on 09/08/2011 01:53:15
Edited by: Kraven Stark on 09/08/2011 01:52:43
Originally by: baltec1
Originally by: Tai Meijer


Get a clue will you? Police have already said that the bullet came from one of their guns. Now go take your head for a dump.

Fact is, after stockwell, no one is going to trust the filth any more, and rightly so. Let's hope they get the hiding they deserve.


I would like to see where you got this info as none of the media sources I have looked at are carrying this and the IPCC told the BBC this morning that no info on the shooting had been given.


There was mention of there being some question about the bullet in the CNN article.



Originally by: Bart Starr
Originally by: Astenion
Originally by: Bart Starr
And while I'm not a 'Tea Party' member, I agree with their goals.


There is no membership to the Tea Party. If you agree with them, then you are part of it...and part of the problem.


Yes, its essentially a grassroots movement, so I suppose in the strictest sense, there is no 'membership'. I just never have gone to any actual 'Tea Parties', mainly because I am working too many hours in the summer, and living abroad in the winter.

Tea Party events still look like fun, as far as protests go. Silly colonial costumes, "Don't tread on me" flags, anti-Obama signs, and oh, yeah - complete absence of police, rioting, and burning cars.

The classy, nonviolent nature of the Tea Party really makes leftwing protesters look like the mindless thugs they are. Cool


You must be talking about that rioting Fox News showed during the Anti-Union Debates. The one where Fox News was found out to have stock video of rioting groups to make it look like the protesters at the actual debate were out of control.

Also, you may want to educate yourself on why the Tea Party exists, who is pulling the strings and how people like you are being used by non-grassroots interest to get their way in DC. http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2010/08/30/100830fa_fact_mayer


Bart Starr
Posted - 2011.08.09 02:01:00 - [59]
 

Originally by: Blacksquirrel

I always love the scenarios uber gun nuts come up with. And hell I like shooting and even own a gun. By that logic we should all be allowed to own 240G's in case the crowd is over 200, and the high capacity mags just wont cut it. If those fail perhaps a cannon with grapeshot. Napoleon did best know how to deal with a mob.

Or what if im a logger and my chain saw ran out of gas glad I have my mini gun to continue chipping down trees... We need to Russians to be powerful again to justify why everyone needs a mini armory in their house. All the other reason seem silly by comparison.


Hey, fool. This isn't a 'scenario' that I made up. It happened.

I've finally had a chance read some of the coverage of the UK rioting. I don't know, I suppose some people see thugs smashing hardworking people's livelihoods and think they are just 'misguided youth' raging against the system.

Me, it just makes me angry.

I tend to imagine those rioters lying on the ground, ****ting their pants and crying, in a pool of blood and broken glass - after they were fatally gutshot by an angry, well-armed store owner. The thought actually cheers me up. Protesting the government is one thing, but the second you start attacking your fellow (productive) citizens, and you DESERVE a violent and painful end. Evil or Very Mad

Vogue
Short Bus Pole Dancers
Posted - 2011.08.09 02:16:00 - [60]
 

Edited by: Vogue on 09/08/2011 02:55:16
People who make posts in these forums live thousands of miles apart but have much in common through their interest in EVE. But yet we can live in a big city and have very little relationship to poor citizens a few miles away. If I was brought up in a poor area I could have very likely taken to and be stuck in bad ways given my unabridged indifferent nature when I was young. Given that what I find amazing is the stories of people who have risen to great success from blighted poor backgrounds.

The hard general truth is that social mobility has not got better since 1910. And now its actually getting worse with the advent of the hyper rich and disenfranchised poor who lack the education and social skills to fit into service sector economies. We can give the poor government benefits to give them a quality of life far beyond of what they would have had in the first half of the 20th century. However their relative dysfunction will not change.

The UK government will say a lot of tough things but probably not clamp down really hard and let the riots run their course.

As Thatcher said there is no such thing as society. But what can be done is the government to fund more youth clubs that have boxing and especially martial arts classes. To understand how to use force with discipline and rhythm is maturing. This will impress on young people that most fights in life are won in the mind.


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