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Xenuria
Gallente
Genos Occidere
HYDRA RELOADED
Posted - 2011.08.07 18:37:00 - [1]
 

One of the reasons I quit playing World of Warcraft was because it literally took several hours to get a party/group togethure to clear content. Then even after that it would take more time to get the group or party organizied and that was providing that nobody had to suddenly leave or got poached by another forming group.


The Incursion system suffers these same problems...

There is an incursion 2 jumps from dodixie right now. I spent a bunch of isk fitting out a proteus with 72k armor hps and Insane Drone Damage.

Then when I arrive on the location I find there is shield fleets.. Loads and Loads of shield Fleets. In gallente space mind you.


Forget the fact that shield fleets sacrifice survivability for DPS thats a discussion for another thread.

What upsets me is that I spent 4 hrs Xing up in local and the incursion wide channel only to be put in a fleet that rapidly evaporated when we realized that all the sites worth doing were already occupied.

So far I have only done 2 successful incursions. I would love to do more but I simply can not stand being constantly reminded of World of Warcraft in that I have to wait for a bunch of neuro-typical and incompetent morons to get their **** together and form a fleet.


Everybody is waiting for somebody else to form a fleet and sometimes over 200 people will sit in the staging system without a fleet and spam the channel asking for somebody to form one.

It's a huge mess really and something needs to be done about it. One of the best things to happen to World of Warcraft was the Dungeon Finder (after they added rewards to the least popular roles)

Eve needs it's own Dungeon Finder. A system that pairs people up to do incursions, missions,etc. This way all I have to do is click a icon and put in some information and wait maybe 30mins instead of 4-6 hrs and I will be placed in a group with a competency rating on par with my own and I can get down to business.


If CCP did something like this EVE would be alot more fun and the new user retention rate would soar.

Mag's
the united
Negative Ten.
Posted - 2011.08.07 18:40:00 - [2]
 

Originally by: Xenuria
One of the reasons I quit playing World of Warcraft
Stopped reading there.

Dusty Warrior
Posted - 2011.08.07 18:43:00 - [3]
 

Actually I stopped once I saw the avatar of OP.

Xenuria
Gallente
Genos Occidere
HYDRA RELOADED
Posted - 2011.08.07 18:45:00 - [4]
 

Originally by: Mag's
Originally by: Xenuria
One of the reasons I quit playing World of Warcraft
Stopped reading there.


Woah... Your so cool and edgy!
I wish I could be like you some day.

Mag's
the united
Negative Ten.
Posted - 2011.08.07 18:45:00 - [5]
 

Originally by: Xenuria
Originally by: Mag's
Originally by: Xenuria
One of the reasons I quit playing World of Warcraft
Stopped reading there.


Woah... Your so cool and edgy!
I wish I could be like you some day.
Dream on Welsh boy, dream on. Cool

Corina's Bodyguard
Posted - 2011.08.07 18:46:00 - [6]
 

I didn't actually read, because its by Xenuria (should go back to C&P IMO, torture them).

Morganta
Posted - 2011.08.07 18:47:00 - [7]
 

so, you seem to be full of energy, form a fleet.

don't expect support from us when you are crying about other people not stepping up when you wont do it yourself.

and fleets use shields or armor based on available logi for the most part, if logi is running shield reps then you fly shields.

actually what do you even mean by saying that shield fits hose DPS?
shields are mid-slot, meaning (if your cap skills don't blow) that you can load up the lows with DAMAGE MODS (unless like I said they are full of CPU and power boosts cos your skills stink)

this means the typical shield fleet has MORE DPS

Xenuria
Gallente
Genos Occidere
HYDRA RELOADED
Posted - 2011.08.07 18:48:00 - [8]
 

Edited by: Xenuria on 07/08/2011 18:49:00
Mag... You have me confused with somebody else.

I am not welsh I am american. Nice try and formulating a meaningful insult.

Originally by: Morganta
so, you seem to be full of energy, form a fleet.

don't expect support from us when you are crying about other people not stepping up when you wont do it yourself.

and fleets use shields or armor based on available logi for the most part, if logi is running shield reps then you fly shields.

actually what do you even mean by saying that shield fits hose DPS?
shields are mid-slot, meaning (if your cap skills don't blow) that you can load up the lows with DAMAGE MODS (unless like I said they are full of CPU and power boosts cos your skills stink)

this means the typical shield fleet has MORE DPS


Re read what I said.

I said shield fleets do more dps but have less survivability then armor fleets.

I also DID form my own fleet if you bothered to read you would know that.

Dradius Calvantia
Creative Cookie Procuring
Rote Kapelle
Posted - 2011.08.07 18:52:00 - [9]
 

Edited by: Dradius Calvantia on 07/08/2011 18:53:28
1. Recurring problem/ probably your fault
2. Why the hell are you using the Incursion public channel
3. Go back to WOW if you want a game where you can ignore any interaction with other players that takes more time and social skills than "click role in dungeon finder."
4. Can I has you stuff

Could not be arsed to spend the time to reply to this post in well written, complete sentences. Normally I do pride my self in well laid out arguments presented in a clear and detailed manner. Just imagine I expressed those points in more elegant prose.

Xenuria
Gallente
Genos Occidere
HYDRA RELOADED
Posted - 2011.08.07 18:53:00 - [10]
 

Originally by: Dradius Calvantia
1. Recurring problem/ probably your fault
2. Why the hell are you using the Incursion public channel
3. Go back to WOW if you want a game where you can ignore any interaction with other players that takes more time and social skills than "click role in dungeon finder.
4. Can I has you stuff

Could not be arsed to spend the time to reply to this post in well written, complete sentences. Normally I do pride my self in well laid out arguments presented in a clear and detailed manner. Just imagine I expressed those points in more elegant prose.


Yeah.... No.

The incursion public channel is what you are supposed to use.

Mag's
the united
Negative Ten.
Posted - 2011.08.07 18:53:00 - [11]
 

No confusion here son, you spit when you talk. Very Happy

Xenuria
Gallente
Genos Occidere
HYDRA RELOADED
Posted - 2011.08.07 18:58:00 - [12]
 

Originally by: Mag's
No confusion here son, you spit when you talk. Very Happy


I am sure you are confused. We have never met ingame or Irl. You have me mistaken for somebody else. Either way you are trying way to hard to be cool.

Cambarus
Malicious Destruction
War Against the Manifest
Posted - 2011.08.07 18:59:00 - [13]
 

Edited by: Cambarus on 07/08/2011 19:00:44
On the off chance you're not trolling:
1)Armor is a lot harder to find fleets for, you seem to be aware of this. You undoubtedly have the skills to fly something shield tanked, so do it.

2)Proteus sucks. Hell for vanguards even the tengu is ****. Get a NM or vindi, you'll get a fleet within seconds more often than not.

EDIT: a third point:
The public incursion chat has 60someodd people in it. BTL pub currently has over 700. public channels suck. Very Happy

Soi Mala
Whacky Waving Inflatable Flailing Arm Tubemen
Posted - 2011.08.07 19:00:00 - [14]
 

Join "BTL public" for shield, or "the ditanian fleet" for armor, this allows you to join fleets that aren't full of ******s waiting for other ******s to travel 30jumps so they can do one site and go cook dinner. Be sure to include which incursion you plan on doing, along with your shiptype/fitting when Xing up to avoid disappointment.

I see what you're saying, but making them too easy to organize will just increase farming, and in the long run exacerbate the problems you're having due to the influx of new people occupying the already limited number of sites.


Bane Necran
Minmatar
Posted - 2011.08.07 19:02:00 - [15]
 

Originally by: Mag's
No confusion here son, you spit when you talk. Very Happy


Got something to say about Welsh people? Twisted Evil

daddys helper
Posted - 2011.08.07 19:03:00 - [16]
 

oh and...

MONOCLE

Mag's
the united
Negative Ten.
Posted - 2011.08.07 19:04:00 - [17]
 

Originally by: Bane Necran
Originally by: Mag's
No confusion here son, you spit when you talk. Very Happy


Got something to say about Welsh people? Twisted Evil
They leek a lot. Razz

Devil's Call
Caldari
Malicious Destruction
War Against the Manifest
Posted - 2011.08.07 19:06:00 - [18]
 

Originally by: Xenuria

Eve needs it's own Dungeon Finder. A system that pairs people up to do incursions, missions,etc. This way all I have to do is click a icon and put in some information and wait maybe 30mins instead of 4-6 hrs and I will be placed in a group with a competency rating on par with my own and I can get down to business.


If CCP did something like this EVE would be alot more fun and the new user retention rate would soar.


No, eve does not need a dungeon finder. Eve is not the place for a dungeon finder. We don't have battlegrounds and arena's either. Although incursions look like raids, I guess, a dungeon finder just doesn't belong in eve imo.

You can join a corp if you want to find groups for incursions faster, or join certain channels in-game for 'pugs' that are already there.

Bane Necran
Minmatar
Posted - 2011.08.07 19:10:00 - [19]
 

Edited by: Bane Necran on 07/08/2011 19:16:56
Originally by: Mag's
Originally by: Bane Necran
Originally by: Mag's
No confusion here son, you spit when you talk. Very Happy


Got something to say about Welsh people? Twisted Evil
They leek a lot. Razz


Never eaten a leek as far as i know.

It is my main ancestry, although i've never set foot in Wales. I'd also agree with anyone who says the language looks silly when written.

Judge Ment
BOOM BOOM POW
Posted - 2011.08.07 19:11:00 - [20]
 

I like RIFT Razz

Lady Spank
Amarr
In Praise Of Shadows
Posted - 2011.08.07 19:39:00 - [21]
 

LOL XDDDDD RANDUM ETC

Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgoge rychwyrndrob
Gallente
In Praise Of Shadows
Posted - 2011.08.07 19:43:00 - [22]
 

There is nothing wrong with the mighty Welsh language.


~ PLAID CYMRU! ~

Koti Resci
Knighthawk Light Industries
Posted - 2011.08.07 19:45:00 - [23]
 

You don't need a dungeon finder. The players already made it. It's a chat channel.

There's an unspoken agreement between two, errr... factions shall we say, that divides the incursions up. Shield fleets get X space, armor fleets get Y space, and Z space gets contested. Join the correct x-up channel for shield or armor fleets and you get instant pewpewpew. Get even more instant pewpewpew if you're in a well-fit logistics ship - they're almost always needed, just like healers in WoW.

Since you're specifically *****ing about shield fleets, I suggest you look into the chat channel The Ditanian Fleet. It's not exactly the best channel to be recruiting from since it's pretty much public. But it's a good start and should be able to give you a chance to prove that you're worthy of being trusted in other channels.

I don't know (nor care) what the channels are for shield fleets. I'm sure if you ask around though, you can get it from a shield fleet member.

Good luck, fly safe, and enjoy your free ISK.

Tippia
Caldari
Sunshine and Lollipops
Posted - 2011.08.07 19:45:00 - [24]
 

Originally by: Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgoge rychwyrndrob
There is nothing wrong with the mighty Welsh language.
True enough… the problem is with its users, who create such abominations as your name… Razz

Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgoge rychwyrndrob
Gallente
In Praise Of Shadows
Posted - 2011.08.07 19:48:00 - [25]
 

I don't see a problem with my name. Perhaps you just have a hard time pronouncing it.

Epic DaSoto
Posted - 2011.08.07 19:48:00 - [26]
 

Originally by: daddys helper
oh and...

MONOCLE


Your post makes me want to get a monocle.

Grimpak
Gallente
Midnight Elites
Echelon Rising
Posted - 2011.08.07 19:52:00 - [27]
 

YAXT

(Yet Another Xenuria Thread)

Titus Phook
Posted - 2011.08.07 20:13:00 - [28]
 

Originally by: Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgoge rychwyrndrob
I don't see a problem with my name. Perhaps you just have a hard time pronouncing it.


lol looks like you ran into the character limit when you did the name. I can pronounce it, but not without taking a breath in the middle & you have to to it "Caerphilly" or you drool :)

Moe Cizlak
Posted - 2011.08.07 20:13:00 - [29]
 

space is cold and harsh



all the more reason to find like minded friends to take on the incursions instead of relying on strangers

Judge Ment
BOOM BOOM POW
Posted - 2011.08.07 20:18:00 - [30]
 

EVE should have turn the system into a dark green gas clouds when there is incursion happening. Anything that moves in the system is getting bombarded by the gas clouds that move in it. Anyone going into the system will be attack by Pirates (AI). they should bottle neck this in main stream systems or hovering by Jita, not just 4 spots.. But Make everyone apart of the problem (Like in RIFT) this would be a isk sink! and would make everyone work as a team to get rid of the pirates base! Also creating mobs that are almost impossible for small group to take...


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