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Serene Python
Posted - 2011.08.06 01:30:00 - [1]
 

Edited by: Serene Python on 08/09/2011 17:40:19
0.01 isk wars will make you feel better.


Salutations MD! This month I am hoping to expand my station trading significantly, so I will be needing more funds.

Summary
Wanted: 10,000,000,000.00
Interest Rate: 10%
Collateralized: No
Start Date: August 13th.

FAQ
1. Any outstanding debts outside of your current public loan? Yes. A corp mate gave me 1bn isk around the end of July, so that is already considered apart of the 10bn here.
All work and no play makes Johnny a dull boy.
2. Why are you going from 2bn to 10bn? I believe I could properly invest this isk to make worth while profits. In my previous loan(as of the moment of posting) I have earned 823m isk as profit which is almost a 50% return on the isk I've used.
All work and no play makes Johnny a dull boy.
3. In the event of you losing our isk how would you pay it back? I pay attention to my markets and will pull out if it's not worth the time. In the event I start losing significant amounts of isk I will see the close margins while I update prices and will pull out.

5. What if you are intoxicated and go on eve? I've learnt my lessons with that one. No risk there!

6. Why did you choose 10bn as your next loan? My average profit per day is around 36m per day, I would really like to reach 100m a day average and believe 10 billion isk could do this.

7. Audit? As much as I don't like giving out my API information, I imagine investors don't like giving their isk to people they don't trust even more. I have contacted Vaerah already and will be contacting Tutskii later on today to submit to her verification service.

8. Will you be posting the charts like last month? I got no feedback at all about that but yes I will be post the charts this time around again.

9. If you get a job(probably a risk) what are you plans with this? I will see how much of an effect it has on my time to manage eve. If it doesn't have a negative effect, I will continue as usual. If however it does I will end this loan early and return all investments as well as a full months of interest like they expected.

10. How come you eve-mail your investors before each loan ends? This is so I can properly liquidate stock and set aside their isk. I try to give them a respectable amount of time to reply, 1 week, but if I do not hear from them I return their isk.

11. What happened to #4? He's on vacation, he asked me to water his planets.

The Plan
1. Continue station trading in the two trade hubs I'm already in.
1.5. If I have trouble finding items(unlikely) to trade I will move to a third trade hub.
2. Split funds between the hubs I'm trading in.
3. 0.01 isk while watching my minmatar scrub my docking bay.

Risks
1. My minmatar labour worker kills me when I leave my captains quarters.
2. As with all station trading, the profit margins crash.
3. I get a job in real life.

Investors
Still Needed: 3bn
1. Anonymous Corpmate - 1,000,000,000 [Received->Extended]
2. Tom Hagen - 2,000,000,000 [Received->Extended]
3. Liberty Eternal - 500,000,000 [Received->Extended]
4. Dyanmo - 1,000,000,000 [Received->Extended]
5. What Trigger - 1,000,000,000 [Received->Extended]
6. March rabbit - 2,000,000,000 [Received->Haven't heard from->]
7. Lumadane - 500,000,000 [Received->Extended]
8. Michelle P1H9A8N1 - 1,500,000,000 [Received->Requested ISK back->]
9. Mystics Ostus - 500,000,000 [Received->Requested ISK back->]
10. Brollox - 1,000,000,000 [Reserved]

Minimum investment: 500m (sorry little guys)

*Reserved until they decide they want to cash out or I do not hear from them by the 13th.


Feel free to ask any questions you have regarding this loan and I will answer them as best as I can.

Previous Loans
Loan 1
Loan 2

Serene Python
Posted - 2011.08.06 01:38:00 - [2]
 

Edited by: Serene Python on 06/08/2011 05:14:35
Edited by: Serene Python on 06/08/2011 01:49:57
Update:

I have sent my API key to Tutskii for a claim verification.

FAQ
12. Why are there 4 investors already but not a single post from them in this thread? Their investments from my current ongoing loan are carried over and reserved. I've eve-mailed them around when I started this topic, if one pulls out their reservation will be removed.

Lyris Nairn
Caldari
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2011.08.06 04:22:00 - [3]
 

I am a bit confused that there is only one person posting in this thread. Are there other threads relevant to this offering that I missed?

Elise DarkStar
Posted - 2011.08.06 04:39:00 - [4]
 

Edited by: Elise DarkStar on 06/08/2011 04:42:32
Good cashout scam number choice, bro. I think it will work with about 2.5-3b in fake reservations. Good luck, man. I think you've made it.

Edit: holy **** you have 2.5-3b in fake reservations already. All that stands in your path is the cruel wheel of fortuna herslef! Ride, my sweet captain! Ride now for all of us! Ride!

Serene Python
Posted - 2011.08.06 05:12:00 - [5]
 

Originally by: Lyris Nairn
I am a bit confused that there is only one person posting in this thread. Are there other threads relevant to this offering that I missed?


Quote:
*Reserved until they decide they want to cash out or I do not hear from them by the 13th.


The three people with that are currently investors of mine in my ongoing loan that ends on the 13th, when I want this to start up. They are reserved because I'm being courteous in letting them carry over their current investments.

If you look to my previous loan you will see those three are my current investors, and previously Liberty Eternal had his investment carried over. I will edit the second post to add a quick answer, sorry for the confusion.

Lyris Nairn
Caldari
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2011.08.06 05:28:00 - [6]
 

I would be somewhat disappointed in you if this is your cash-out scam, because the number is still way too low and every successful bond you roll out will just allow you to poke the number higher. I have been happy to see you offering interest rates that are competitive with offerings available in Goonswarm Federation, but I am curious as to why you have consistently set your rate so much higher than the average among Market Discussions? On that note, I would also like to know your opinion on Goonswarm Federation and its known scamming activities; specifically, I would like to know up-front if you are one of those people who think it would be a great idea to steal my money (but not that of the other investors) as some sort of "payback" for having once been or known someone who was scammed by some goon.

Serene Python
Posted - 2011.08.06 05:47:00 - [7]
 

Quote:
I would be somewhat disappointed in you if this is your cash-out scam


Ignore the troll... I figured people would have figured out the people in the investor list are reserved amounts...


Quote:
but I am curious as to why you have consistently set your rate so much higher than the average among Market Discussions?


If you also look at most offerings they are collateralized. I don't have collateral so I offer the % I recall being typical among uncollateralized.

Quote:
I would also like to know your opinion on Goonswarm Federation and its known scamming activities; specifically, I would like to know up-front if you are one of those people who think it would be a great idea to steal my money (but not that of the other investors) as some sort of "payback" for having once been or known someone who was scammed by some goon.


From what I am reading, you are asking if I believe in an eye for an eye type of deal. I do not. If I stole your money would that make me any better than the person who stole in your alliance? I'd see that as making me worse of a person for sinking to their level.

Tom Hagen
Posted - 2011.08.06 09:27:00 - [8]
 

Reserve 2 bil for me if you want my ISK!

OllieNorth
Gallente
R-K Industries
Posted - 2011.08.06 13:24:00 - [9]
 

I really like seeing an uncollateralized loan with a higher rate, there needs to be more of this. I don't have the ISK, but it looks good to me. Funny watching a Goon call out scams.

PS I like your new pic Lyris, much improved! Razz

Lyris Nairn
Caldari
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2011.08.06 17:03:00 - [10]
 

Originally by: OllieNorth

PS I like your new pic Lyris, much improved! Razz

Thanks! It's amazing what a minor wardrobe change and a different angle can do.

Serene Python
Posted - 2011.08.06 18:57:00 - [11]
 

Originally by: Tom Hagen
Reserve 2 bil for me if you want my ISK!


Adding you to the lovely investor list!

Originally by: OllieNorth
I really like seeing an uncollateralized loan with a higher rate, there needs to be more of this. I don't have the ISK, but it looks good to me. Funny watching a Goon call out scams.

PS I like your new pic Lyris, much improved! Razz


Well even if I had proper collateral I would never drop my rate below 5% unless I knew I would have low profits. So you can have that to look forward to in any future loans/bond/ipos/etc etc I may have planned.

RAW23
Posted - 2011.08.06 19:43:00 - [12]
 

VV's subs have expired so you are unlikely to hear from her (although she'll be checking back in periodically iirc so will want her previous investment back Wink). Liberty was talking about biomassing his character, so you might want to check if it still exists. If not, then I think I have seen him posting as LibertyEternal2 or some such.

Serene Python
Posted - 2011.08.06 21:37:00 - [13]
 

Edited by: Serene Python on 06/08/2011 21:41:32
Originally by: RAW23
VV's subs have expired so you are unlikely to hear from her (although she'll be checking back in periodically iirc so will want her previous investment back Wink). Liberty was talking about biomassing his character, so you might want to check if it still exists. If not, then I think I have seen him posting as LibertyEternal2 or some such.


Oh I figured something happened to LE, didn't expect that from Vaerah though. Do you happen to still audit? If so would you be game for auditing me?

I will also edit OP to exclude those two as I trust you aren't out to get them and are giving me legitimate news.

edit; In the event you don't audit anymore, would you be able to advise me a recommendable auditor?

RAW23
Posted - 2011.08.06 21:57:00 - [14]
 

Originally by: Serene Python
Edited by: Serene Python on 06/08/2011 21:41:32
Originally by: RAW23
VV's subs have expired so you are unlikely to hear from her (although she'll be checking back in periodically iirc so will want her previous investment back Wink). Liberty was talking about biomassing his character, so you might want to check if it still exists. If not, then I think I have seen him posting as LibertyEternal2 or some such.


Oh I figured something happened to LE, didn't expect that from Vaerah though. Do you happen to still audit? If so would you be game for auditing me?

I will also edit OP to exclude those two as I trust you aren't out to get them and are giving me legitimate news.

edit; In the event you don't audit anymore, would you be able to advise me a recommendable auditor?


Sources
Liberty - http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1541281&page=1#14
VV - http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1551338&page=2#54

I'm afraid I don't have the technical skills for doing audits (I use paper and pen for all my accounting) but I think both Breaker77 and Varo Jan still do audits from time to time.

Emperor Cheney
Celebrity Sex Tape
Posted - 2011.08.07 10:01:00 - [15]
 

Originally by: RAW23

Liberty - http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1541281&page=1#14



He's gone up to the big Ayn Rand in the sky.

Serene Python
Posted - 2011.08.07 23:59:00 - [16]
 

Originally by: RAW23

Sources
Liberty - http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1541281&page=1#14
VV - http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1551338&page=2#54

I'm afraid I don't have the technical skills for doing audits (I use paper and pen for all my accounting) but I think both Breaker77 and Varo Jan still do audits from time to time.


I really appreciate you taking your time to post the sources. Varo Jan hasn't posted in over a month so I am unsure on their availability to eve due to this, I have mailed Breaker77 my API key as well as a link to this thread roughly 24hours ago.


I am still looking for investors and if you guys really want an audit I will bug Tigerras about it if Breaker77 is too busy/doesn't want to audit me.

Jerry Pepridge
Posted - 2011.08.08 00:02:00 - [17]
 

Originally by: Serene Python
I am still looking for investors and if you guys really want an audit I will bug Tigerras about it if Breaker77 is too busy/doesn't want to audit me.


I wouldn't bother with tigerras, his last "audit" was a failure & the bond didn't get filled. due to his lack of info in said "audit"

Chew some Valerian root & get more exercise

Liberty Eternal
Posted - 2011.08.08 01:08:00 - [18]
 

I'm still around, just playing other games. Serene, feel free to keep my 500 mil in - unless you've already pocketed it on the assumption that I was gone forever Cool

Serene Python
Posted - 2011.08.08 01:15:00 - [19]
 

Originally by: Liberty Eternal
I'm still around, just playing other games. Serene, feel free to keep my 500 mil in - unless you've already pocketed it on the assumption that I was gone forever Cool


I checked today and your character still existed. Do you have any plans in the near future of biomassing your char so I know who to return the isk to or give interest payments to?

Niah Kusoni
Posted - 2011.08.08 01:17:00 - [20]
 

My cashout sense is tingling YARRRR!!

Liberty Eternal
Posted - 2011.08.08 01:20:00 - [21]
 

Originally by: Serene Python
Originally by: Liberty Eternal
I'm still around, just playing other games. Serene, feel free to keep my 500 mil in - unless you've already pocketed it on the assumption that I was gone forever Cool


I checked today and your character still existed. Do you have any plans in the near future of biomassing your char so I know who to return the isk to or give interest payments to?


I won't be biomassing Liberty, there could be a future resurgence in the communist threat and he'll be needed by special forces. So please just keep rolling over my investment for as long as you need to and pay it back when you're done with it. Best of luck with your trading!

Lyris Nairn
Caldari
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2011.08.08 01:28:00 - [22]
 

Originally by: Niah Kusoni
My cashout sense is tingling YARRRR!!

Look at this space poor.

Niah Kusoni
Posted - 2011.08.08 01:38:00 - [23]
 

Has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?

Lyris Nairn
Caldari
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2011.08.08 01:43:00 - [24]
 

Originally by: Niah Kusoni
Has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?

You've got to be kidding me. I've been further even more decided to use even go need to do look more as anyone can. Can you really be far even as decided half as much to use go wish for that? My guess is that when one really been far even as decided once to use even go want, it is then that he has really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like. It's just common sense. And you're still a space poor.

Niah Kusoni
Posted - 2011.08.08 01:58:00 - [25]
 

Originally by: Lyris Nairn
Originally by: Niah Kusoni
Has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?

You've got to be kidding me. I've been further even more decided to use even go need to do look more as anyone can. Can you really be far even as decided half as much to use go wish for that? My guess is that when one really been far even as decided once to use even go want, it is then that he has really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like. It's just common sense. And you're still a space poor.


Well played, no objections

OllieNorth
Gallente
R-K Industries
Posted - 2011.08.08 13:43:00 - [26]
 

Originally by: Lyris Nairn
Originally by: Niah Kusoni
Has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?

You've got to be kidding me. I've been further even more decided to use even go need to do look more as anyone can. Can you really be far even as decided half as much to use go wish for that? My guess is that when one really been far even as decided once to use even go want, it is then that he has really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like. It's just common sense. And you're still a space poor.


I just want to know if you typed this yourself or copypasta'd. Either way awesome.

Coffe's Babe
Caldari
Posted - 2011.08.08 14:06:00 - [27]
 

Edited by: Coffe''s Babe on 08/08/2011 14:06:34
I've seen that exact nonsense before in some thread here. Or 90% like that. And I think Serene started the whole trend;

edit: but yes, I love that ability of people to say nothing in 5 lines Very Happy

CCP Zymurgist


Gallente
C C P
Posted - 2011.08.08 17:41:00 - [28]
 

Thread cleaned of trolling and off-topic comments.

Wilson Tsuruomo
Posted - 2011.08.08 18:30:00 - [29]
 

reserve 1 bil for me

What Trigger
Posted - 2011.08.09 12:04:00 - [30]
 

Screw it its only a couple of plexes to sell, reserve 1B for me please


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