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Aleena Doran
Posted - 2011.08.05 13:03:00 - [1]
 

There have been a few posts recently suggesting that the csm may not represent the interests of the community as a whole, as well as the fact that only a small fraction of players actually vote. I put this apathy down to lack of knowledge on the part of the players what each of the candidates stands for. If you don't know what a candidate stands for then why vote fro him? I've been thinking on how the csm election process might be enhanced to generate more player involvement. I present here my thoughts on an alternative process and invite constructive comment.

Objectives:
Achieve more player interest in the voting process and community as a whole.

Method:
1) CCP to build a webpage that lists csm candidates, where the name of their highest skill point character is presented along with approximate number of skill points, corporation and alliance. Candidate should be able to provide a paragraph of text to be entered here with link to forum or website for further info or discussion if desired. The current system where candidates can make a post in a general forum makes it difficult to see easily and in a single place what each of the candidates stands for. We need to make it easy for players to get information if they are to become involved. Presenting sp is useful as voters then get an idea of the experience of the character, and if high skill points are a necessity to gain votes it encourages candidates to present their main character rather than an alt, enabling players to do meaningful background checks, if desired.

2) make voting a 2 stage process over a longer period. Candidates would need say 1000 votes to get into the second round. Just like primaries followed by a main election. The current voting process favors players associated with major alliances - in effect players who have already been through preselection. A 2 stage voting process would produce strong candidates but from a wider variety of backgrounds.

3) create a list of 'standard' interest areas. Each candidate would have to select say 4 subject areas of interest. These would be topics such as: nulsec, sov, faction warfare, pve, ship fitting, cap ships, exploration, etc., to be selected from a standard list. This would enable voters to see at a glance the issues a candidate stands for. Limiting the number a candidate nominates prevents a candidate claiming interest in everything, and makes the selection meaningful. The assembly hall forum should be broken up into assembly hall sub forums for each subject area on the standard list. The current assembly hall is amorphous. Having sub areas where related threads are grouped and associated with the interest areas of csm candidates makes the forum a clearer means for communicating with csm members aligned with a certain subject, creating proto-political parties, and has the further advantage of making the assembly hall easier to manage.

So my proposal in summary is for a set of changes to enhance the csm voting process by giving voters useful and easily accessible information about candidates experience and what they stand for, enabling strong candidates to be established with a wide area of back grounds and interests, assisting players in identifying csm candidates associated with given subject areas, and to facilitate discussion on these subjects.

Magnus Orin
Minmatar
Wildly Inappropriate
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2011.08.05 20:02:00 - [2]
 

Look man, I know you mean well, but you are clueless.

I know you will discredit me instantly and say I am biased simply because of my alliance ticker, but I work and lobby for a union in real life, and I work for a political party during provincial and federal elections here in Canada.

Elections, at any level, are always controlled by the most organized special interest groups. Winning an election primarily comes down to identifying your supporters, and ensuring they actually vote on Election Day.

No amount of websites, 2 stage processes or lists of candidate ares of interest created on the part of CCP will change this.

CCP should simply act in a manner similar to Elections Canada (I'm not familiar with American, or Icelandic election processes, but I assume they hav a similar arms length government organization to oversee elections). Their job is to simply provide the means of conducting the election, and ensuring there is no fraud.

It is up to the voter to educate themselves on the candidates, and the issues they represent. Eve does not hold your hand in the game, why would they hold your hand here?

Dusty Warrior
Posted - 2011.08.08 19:34:00 - [3]
 


The best thing for the CSM would be for it to fade into history much like ship spinning.

Once the CSM is gone, implement a periodic 1-3 questionaire to be answered by the whole community during the login process.

The implementation would then allow everyone, from nub to the old vets a voice... not just the ones who have the time to troll forums.... like myself. Smile

This ^^^

Vance Komorov
Posted - 2011.08.14 05:47:00 - [4]
 

It doesn't matter how well you educate yourself on anyone running for a spot in the CSM. The simple fact of the matter is they are all from null sec alliances, all we are doing is simply putting in our vote for the best of the worst.

The CSM never used to bother me, but now more and more you see CCP bending over to the will of the CSM to make changes that only affect people living in null. Having 11% of the EVE population cry about something and see a change made when 79% of the population doesn't agree to see the need for the change just rubs me the wrong way. Most recently the bid to remove ABC ore from WHs, the general population doesn't want to see this happen but of corse the CSM would love to see this happen. Another way the CSM is looking to cripple anyone who may offer up a new threat to the big null alliances.

This needs to change either witht he removal of the CSM or CCP listening to the people who put the most money in their pocket. If the CSM would like to stick around and fight for any changes that may be made in null than by all means but don't speak for the High Sec pop when you don't even spend any time in it.

Zirse
Minmatar
Brutor Tribe
Posted - 2011.08.14 06:35:00 - [5]
 

Originally by: Vance Komorov
It doesn't matter how well you educate yourself on anyone running for a spot in the CSM. The simple fact of the matter is they are all from null sec alliances, all we are doing is simply putting in our vote for the best of the worst.

The CSM never used to bother me, but now more and more you see CCP bending over to the will of the CSM to make changes that only affect people living in null. Having 11% of the EVE population cry about something and see a change made when 79% of the population doesn't agree to see the need for the change just rubs me the wrong way. Most recently the bid to remove ABC ore from WHs, the general population doesn't want to see this happen but of corse the CSM would love to see this happen. Another way the CSM is looking to cripple anyone who may offer up a new threat to the big null alliances.

This needs to change either witht he removal of the CSM or CCP listening to the people who put the most money in their pocket. If the CSM would like to stick around and fight for any changes that may be made in null than by all means but don't speak for the High Sec pop when you don't even spend any time in it.


I think you suffer from a complete and total lack of understanding. This is colloquially known as being ****ing ******ed. I think you need to spend more than five minutes thinking about this.


 

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