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Andre II
Minmatar
Posted - 2011.08.02 14:15:00 - [1]
 

well i finally saved up enough money to buy a cruiser, since my destroyer is starting to get beat by npc rats.

whats the best cruiser for general pve, and what the best load out for tanking and such?

Bossanova Widya
Posted - 2011.08.02 14:31:00 - [2]
 

Edited by: Bossanova Widya on 02/08/2011 14:34:30
Edited by: Bossanova Widya on 02/08/2011 14:32:10
Kind of vague, but oh well...

there's 2 tanking types, shield and armor and then you get 2 sub types, active and passive...

passive shield; you'll want large shield extenders + invulns
active shield; (not too good for cruisers, so we'l just ignore this)

passive armor; 800mm or 1600mm rolled tungsten plates + energized adaptive nano membranes or adaptive nano plating (depending on skills/fitting)
active armor; cap booster, EANM/ANP + armor rep

The are the general combat cruiser for the 4 races
Caldari; Moa, or Caracal (Blaster boat and Missile boat, both shield)
Gallente; Vexor or Thorax (Blaster and drone boat, armor or shield)
Minmatar; Rupture or Stabber (Brawler and kite, armor or shield)
Amarr; Arbitrator or Maller (drone boat and tanker, armoor shield)

Then there's the ewar cruiser... probably best stay away from these until you have good support skills for them.. also ignore the logistics/miner cruisers, cos they are a bit ****)

Edit: I misread, I thought you said pvp... for pve.. caracal/vexor/arby/rupture... google the fittings for the level missions your on. This site is good

Lady Go Diveher
The Independent Troll Society
Posted - 2011.08.02 14:34:00 - [3]
 

For PVP or PVE, you're pretty much going to want to use a Rupture. You can armour or shield tank it, depending on where you want your support skills to lie for larger ships.

You can passive shield tank a Ruppie, and passive shield tank a cane. Those skills will then assist you in flying the Maelstom, which you should active shield tank.

Magnus Orin
Minmatar
Wildly Inappropriate
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2011.08.02 20:21:00 - [4]
 

Rupture, then train for a Cane.

tagen young
Caldari
The Night Witch
Posted - 2011.08.02 20:30:00 - [5]
 

I agree the passive rupture works fine for level 2s.

I've tried all minnie cruisers when doing level 2s and would say the rupture is by far the best. The stabber isn't even the second best minnie cruiser for missions. The bellicose is often seen as a lol ship, but is actually a decent little mission runner. I actually prefered it over the rupture, but thats because of my hatred of the rupture ship model.


Magnus Orin
Minmatar
Wildly Inappropriate
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2011.08.02 20:36:00 - [6]
 

Originally by: tagen young
I agree the passive rupture works fine for level 2s.

I've tried all minnie cruisers when doing level 2s and would say the rupture is by far the best. The stabber isn't even the second best minnie cruiser for missions. The bellicose is often seen as a lol ship, but is actually a decent little mission runner. I actually prefered it over the rupture, but thats because of my hatred of the rupture ship model.




I used to hate the look of the Rupture as well, and refused to fly it simply based on looks. It's psychologically interesting how over time, the look of the Rupture hull grew on me, as I learned how well the Rupture performs in pvp for a ship of its class and cost. I now love its look, as I associate it with solid, dependable pvp performance.

E man Industries
Posted - 2011.08.02 22:05:00 - [7]
 

Edited by: E man Industries on 02/08/2011 22:05:44
Rupture.

Because more DPS is best and the rupture is the highest dps mimnitar cruiser.

Vaga is nice but speed does not help you run missions that much faster

Same for many others they have niches but dps run missions fastes so the rupture.

Also traning for rupture sets you up well for the huricane.

I suggest artillary,a shield tank and dps mods in the lows

Sir Substance
Minmatar
Suddenly Ninjas
Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service
Posted - 2011.08.03 00:31:00 - [8]
 

The cream of the crop are the ruppie, the thorax and the vexor.

The ruppie is the most easily trained for to make effective, and the best in PvP.

With blasters, the thorax is the highest DPS cruiser in the game, and can rival a battleship in damage output. THe vexor is the toughest of them, but requires extensive skills in drones to use effectively.

Jose Black
Amarr
Royal Amarr Institute
Posted - 2011.08.03 12:45:00 - [9]
 

Rupture pretty much. Artillery, shield extenders, propulsion, fitting and damage modules. Do not forget drones. Some people will suggest autocannons over artillery, which I would only do for belt hunting and maybe not even there.

Stabber with autocannons also works well for belt hunting.

Scythe for mining. It's inferior to the Osprey tho.

Btw. this thread belongs into Ships and Modules forum section.

DeBingJos
Minmatar
Goat Holdings
Posted - 2011.08.03 12:54:00 - [10]
 

Edited by: DeBingJos on 03/08/2011 12:54:12
Originally by: Jose Black
Rupture pretty much. Artillery, shield extenders, propulsion, fitting and damage modules. Do not forget drones. Some people will suggest autocannons over artillery, which I would only do for belt hunting and maybe not even there.


Why no auto's? 425mm ruppy is a fine ship imo.

Edit for spelling.

Jose Black
Amarr
Royal Amarr Institute
Posted - 2011.08.03 13:09:00 - [11]
 

Edited by: Jose Black on 03/08/2011 13:09:17
Originally by: DeBingJos
Why no auto's? 425mm ruppy is a fine ship imo.
After all a matter of opinion and personal taste I guess.
Personally I like to be farther away from the crowd I'm shooting at for way easier tanking and more situation awareness. It's also about saving ammunition.

Magnus Orin
Minmatar
Wildly Inappropriate
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2011.08.03 16:31:00 - [12]
 

425mm ACs are for ruppies. I rarely, if ever, use arties on em. i dont pve with ruptures though.


 

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