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Bunnyy Lebowski
Posted - 2011.08.02 00:14:00 - [1]
 

I'll start off by saying I'm not a fan of "gold ammo" concepts and their ilk, but if you think CCP is soft on RMT, read on.

Review the article HERE and imagine such a system built right into the framework of the game. Not even a need to make any currency conversions directly or indirectly. Just link your account to a valid source of payment and pay 2 win is the name of the game. So with the invention of the NeX and its unique currency specifically for vanity items, does it still seem so outrageous given the direction that other industry heavy hitters are taking their franchises? Does this make you wonder if CCP will re-evaluate their current stance on "gold ammo" etc.? Is Bill O'Reilly really that dumb? Ok that last one wasn't really relevant, but hey...tide goes in, tide goes out, right? Wink

Abdiel Kavash
Caldari
Paladin Order
Fidelas Constans
Posted - 2011.08.02 00:20:00 - [2]
 

I can already see it.

Butthurt bear who just lost a freighter to a gank: "You stupid no-lifes, do you have nothing better to do than to kill people in an internet spaceship game? Can't you get a job or something?"
Gankers: "We have a job. In fact, we're working right now, and we just made $50 each. Thanks for your help. Wink"

Nimrod Nemesis
Amarr
Royal Amarr Institute
Posted - 2011.08.02 00:26:00 - [3]
 

Can't wait for another one of these threads to hit OOPE.

Rolling Eyes

Can we please just lock this one CCP?

Diondra Reuben
Posted - 2011.08.02 00:28:00 - [4]
 

Originally by: Abdiel Kavash
I can already see it.

Butthurt bear who just lost a freighter to a gank: "You stupid no-lifes, do you have nothing better to do than to kill people in an internet spaceship game? Can't you get a job or something?"
Gankers: "We have a job. In fact, we're working right now, and we just made $50 each. Thanks for your help. Wink"


People have been getting pay RL money for years now to do Eve activities...

Tsukimaru
Amarr
Stargate SG-1
Fatal Ascension
Posted - 2011.08.02 00:41:00 - [5]
 

White glaze tastes funny. Embarassed

Digital Messiah
Gallente
N7 Corporation
PandaMonium.
Posted - 2011.08.02 00:59:00 - [6]
 

That is slightly irrelevant however. Diablo 3 isn't going to have a player run economy. If every item you got in eve was dropped by an npc. Than no one would be hurt by being able to buy the items directly. It would just save another player time from farming to get that item. In eve however, any time an item enters the game that can be made by a player, that isn't, hurts the economy and lack of competition in that market.

I don't like that D3 is going to have a P2W system. But It won't hurt me from farming my BiS gear for my character and laughing at the people who have nothing left to do.

Destiny Corrupted
Deadly Viper Kitten Mitten Sewing Company
Posted - 2011.08.02 01:33:00 - [7]
 

The majority of people, which is quite ignorant, doesn't seem to understand what exactly the industry concept of pay-to-win is.

No, it's not "the ability to exchange real currency for accelerated in-game progression." Pay-to-win is, and only is, the ability to buy some form of competitive advantage directly from the developer/publisher.

If we accept the ignorant majority's definition of pay-to-win, then every single saved-progression multiplayer game released in the past two decades is pay-to-win. For as long as saved-progression multiplayer games and ebay/paypal have existed, people have been selling and buying in-game items from others. However, as long as an expenditure of human energy is associated with every bought/sold item, there's nothing wrong with this. Does it matter who spent fifteen hours repeatedly killing a dungeon boss for a Helm of Slaying, as long as someone has?

Blizzard isn't creating a pay-to-win game. They're simply implementing a feature that should've been present in multiplayer games for many years now.

Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
Posted - 2011.08.02 02:51:00 - [8]
 

Originally by: Tsukimaru
White glaze tastes funny. Embarassed


I would get one of those jackets, but I can't very well put one on over my manly chest :(

What to do. What to do.

Mr Epeen Cool

The Offerer
Minmatar
Posted - 2011.08.02 05:14:00 - [9]
 

Originally by: Bunnyy Lebowski
I'll start off by saying I'm not a fan of "gold ammo" concepts and their ilk, but if you think CCP is soft on RMT, read on.

Review the article HERE and imagine such a system built right into the framework of the game. Not even a need to make any currency conversions directly or indirectly. Just link your account to a valid source of payment and pay 2 win is the name of the game. So with the invention of the NeX and its unique currency specifically for vanity items, does it still seem so outrageous given the direction that other industry heavy hitters are taking their franchises? Does this make you wonder if CCP will re-evaluate their current stance on "gold ammo" etc.? Is Bill O'Reilly really that dumb? Ok that last one wasn't really relevant, but hey...tide goes in, tide goes out, right? Wink


http://dl.eve-files.com/media/1106/MTGraph01.jpg

1) What part of this graph (and all things connected to it) would you like to remove from the game by having performance boosting or pay to win items in RMT shop?

2) Which groups of players will be left without their main interest in the game and be forced to look for fun elsewhere?

Answer those two questions and you'll get the answer about RMT impact on EVE Online.

CCP Spitfire


C C P
C C P Alliance
Posted - 2011.08.02 08:33:00 - [10]
 

Moved from 'EVE General Discussion'.



 

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