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Seriphyn Inhonores
Gallente
Eleutherian Guard
Posted - 2011.08.01 21:52:00 - [1]
 

I will make one thing clear, on behalf of the Federal Defence Union.

In the latest piece of propaganda by the esteemed Suresha, the FDU has been painted with the exact same brush as the State Protectorate. This is not only insulting to us as pilots, but the men and women who have died under our command, Intaki men and women. Let us not forget that, Governor Celes Aguard of Mies, who advocated an escalation of the war, had a strong base of support in the Intaki solar system, even if the farcical "No Vote" law denied them the opportunity to submit their ballots.

I say this; the aggression against the Intaki Liberation Front and associates has not been from the Federal Defence Union, but the State Protectorate. Our operations in Intaki is mandated by the fully legal presence of the Federal Defence Union base around Intaki II. Our presence is protective, purely defensive. The presence of any State warships in the Intaki system will count as a foreign military occupation. You can shove all your wishy-washy concepts of Federation presence counting as an occupation, and look at the dictionary definition; currently, the Intaki system is not under the guns of enemy warships and forced to comply with a foreign force. You are directing your anti-war sentiments against soldiers, when it is the politicians and invaders who are the ones that must be shouted down. What do you expect us, the FDU, to do? Let the State Protectorate waltz into your system? Did you forget the economic exploitation by the Caldari megacorporations of countless Intaki colonies?

Do you expect us to do nothing, and sit idly by, while one of the most important systems in the Federation is occupied by a foreign force? We have conviction and integrity, to do what is expected of us. We, including the personnel under our command, fight, bleed and die for the security of your system. You are attacked by fascist invaders of the Caldari State, and then paint us in the same light as them! What crimes have we committed against you, from those who follow through on what we believe to be right? We fight against a force led by a man who will kill millions of Federal servicemen and women (who aren't all magically ethnic Gallenteans, I might add), just to prove a point against a certain FDU commander. If you expect us to tolerate this, then you certainly need your implants checked.

Liberty and Victory, to those who stand a post against foreign invaders. If you have a problem with this, take it up with the Senate, because we're certainly not hearing any calls for peace from our elected representatives or the populace, especially not after losing Harroule and Esesier.

Alain Octirant
Gallente
Federal Nationalist Party
Posted - 2011.08.02 00:57:00 - [2]
 

Edited by: Alain Octirant on 02/08/2011 04:18:29
Hear hear, General Inhonores!

The only honourable thing for you to do now is to push the filthy terrorists from the Intaki system altogether.

Myxx
Atropos Group
Posted - 2011.08.02 01:44:00 - [3]
 

the right-wing nationalist parties of the Federal Government are a dangerous entity. I fully support the ending of the war and a return to balance.

Josh Vermanek
Gallente
Eleutherian Guard
Posted - 2011.08.02 03:42:00 - [4]
 

Originally by: Myxx
the right-wing nationalist parties of the Federal Government are a dangerous entity. I fully support the ending of the war and a return to balance.


As do I, but the ILF's initiative here will end no wars, only serve to bring more death.

Aurelie Severasse
Gallente
The Light on the Hill
Posted - 2011.08.02 04:17:00 - [5]
 

I get the impression, from the context, that the secessionists' manifesto isn't aimed at the Federals but at the Caldari.

If that's the case, General Inhonores, shouldn't you be congratulating them for getting involved as per your previous request rather than calling them out?

It seems like there's no pleasing some people.

And as for you, Octirant, you great prune, loose your venom elsewhere.

Alain Octirant
Gallente
Federal Nationalist Party
Posted - 2011.08.02 04:22:00 - [6]
 

Originally by: Aurelie Severasse

And as for you, Octirant, you great prune, loose your venom elsewhere.


Ah, if it isn't the former Progressor! We have a word for people who switch parties in Federal Politics; they're called rats.

And don't defend those Placid filth, the Federation will be better off if the Caldari grind them into the dust.

Myxx
Atropos Group
Posted - 2011.08.02 04:34:00 - [7]
 

Originally by: Josh Vermanek
Originally by: Myxx
the right-wing nationalist parties of the Federal Government are a dangerous entity. I fully support the ending of the war and a return to balance.


As do I, but the ILF's initiative here will end no wars, only serve to bring more death.


I'll rephrase:

The right wing nationalists are bad for the Federation traditionally, as has been shown throughout history. When they take the reigns, bad things happen for everyone involved. They care only for their narrow minded attitude to others. They care not for diversity or freedom, and are willing to sacrifice whatever it takes to gain what they want.

Josh Vermanek
Gallente
Eleutherian Guard
Posted - 2011.08.02 05:57:00 - [8]
 

Edited by: Josh Vermanek on 02/08/2011 05:58:20
Originally by: Alain Octirant
Originally by: Aurelie Severasse

And as for you, Octirant, you great prune, loose your venom elsewhere.


Ah, if it isn't the former Progressor! We have a word for people who switch parties in Federal Politics; they're called rats.

And don't defend those Placid filth, the Federation will be better off if the Caldari grind them into the dust.


You make it extremely difficult to defend Federal policies when you spout tripe like this.

And if you cared anything about the ideals our Federation was founded on, you would respect the right for someone to change their beliefs/parties. You would celebrate it. You are a firestarter, deserving of little to no attention.

Alain Octirant
Gallente
Federal Nationalist Party
Posted - 2011.08.02 06:23:00 - [9]
 

Originally by: Josh Vermanek

You make it extremely difficult to defend Federal policies when you spout tripe like this.

And if you cared anything about the ideals our Federation was founded on, you would respect the right for someone to change their beliefs/parties. You would celebrate it. You are a firestarter, deserving of little to no attention.


Hit a bit close to the bone did I, Vermanek? Having been a member of the Intaki Liberation Front, The Guristas Pirates, The State Protectorate, Ishukone-Raata Enforcement Directive and now the FDU, you're something of a turncoat yourself.

No matter though, you've made the correct decision in the end. It's just interesting to watch the leopard change its stripes so often.

Aquila Shadow
Caldari
Posted - 2011.08.02 09:15:00 - [10]
 

I cant help but laugh at the FDU's incompitence.Laughing
As you are so proud to boast, the intaki system is under your control, so get a grip on it! your pilots are also dying from this terrorist organisation that you are letting thrive in YOUR system.

"I say this; the aggression against the Intaki Liberation Front and associates has not been from the Federal Defence Union, but the State Protectorate."

I just had a look at our battle statistics. The last ILF ship that we killed was two days ago at the time of righting this plus it was not even in the Intaki system. The ILF terrorist have killed four of our Pilots and none of them were in the Intaki system. Now we are at the edge of our patince, Stop blaming all your problems on the Caldari State and take responsability for your actions.

Also, I have never seen any evidence of "exploitation by the Caldari megacorporations of countless Intaki colonies." That is just crap that the ILF has cooked up to gain sympathy, and how thankful they have been, they just declared open war on the federation.

Get over yourselfs gallente scum, if you dont strangle this viper in your mist then the State will do it for you, and we wont give you back the Intaki system if we do.

Aquila Shadow

Josh Vermanek
Gallente
Eleutherian Guard
Posted - 2011.08.03 05:52:00 - [11]
 

Originally by: Alain Octirant
Originally by: Josh Vermanek

You make it extremely difficult to defend Federal policies when you spout tripe like this.

And if you cared anything about the ideals our Federation was founded on, you would respect the right for someone to change their beliefs/parties. You would celebrate it. You are a firestarter, deserving of little to no attention.


Hit a bit close to the bone did I, Vermanek? Having been a member of the Intaki Liberation Front, The Guristas Pirates, The State Protectorate, Ishukone-Raata Enforcement Directive and now the FDU, you're something of a turncoat yourself.

No matter though, you've made the correct decision in the end. It's just interesting to watch the leopard change its stripes so often.



Unfortunately in my career I been very much a turn coat and I will not deny that. I have gone through many changes and I admit that some of the decisions I made we made purely out of desire for money, or out of rashness and an impatient spirit. So my remark is not a defense of my ego but out of contempt for one who can so boldy contradict an empire, and a way of life, he claims to defend.

Taronyu Eywa
Caldari
Lai Dai Infinity Systems
Posted - 2011.08.14 08:43:00 - [12]
 

I agree with Mr Shadow. Piling the blame on the State's head and hoping "something happens" is both pathetic and pointless. The State has admitted to its mistakes in this whole Intaki debacle, now its time for the FDU to own up to theirs, not poison the Intaki with your propaganda.

Syekuda
Hell's Revenge
Posted - 2011.08.14 23:28:00 - [13]
 

This is a failed attempt to make everyone attack us; to try to make us weak. It wont work. We already got pirates, gallente and minmatar to worry about. Trust me, you are not. Your just another toy when were bored.

Andreus Ixiris
Gallente
Mixed Metaphor
Posted - 2011.08.16 08:52:00 - [14]
 

Originally by: Alain Octirant
No matter though, you've made the correct decision in the end. It's just interesting to watch the leopard change its stripes so often.


Leopards don't even have stripes, you imbecile.

Alain Octirant
Gallente
Federal Nationalist Party
Posted - 2011.08.16 09:50:00 - [15]
 

Originally by: Andreus Ixiris
Originally by: Alain Octirant
No matter though, you've made the correct decision in the end. It's just interesting to watch the leopard change its stripes so often.


Leopards don't even have stripes, you imbecile.


Yes, I'm aware of that, General. I was being Ironical.

Aurelie Severasse
Gallente
The Light on the Hill
Posted - 2011.08.16 09:54:00 - [16]
 

Originally by: Syekuda
This is a failed attempt to make everyone attack us; to try to make us weak. It wont work. We already got pirates, gallente and minmatar to worry about. Trust me, you are not. Your just another toy when were bored.



Who are you even talking to, woman?

Andreus Ixiris
Gallente
Mixed Metaphor
Posted - 2011.08.16 09:55:00 - [17]
 

Originally by: Alain Octirant
Yes, I'm aware of that, General. I was being Ironical.


Like everything else you try your hand at, it's probably best to leave the irony to the competent.

Alain Octirant
Gallente
Federal Nationalist Party
Posted - 2011.08.16 09:59:00 - [18]
 

Originally by: Andreus Ixiris
Originally by: Alain Octirant
Yes, I'm aware of that, General. I was being Ironical.


Like everything else you try your hand at, it's probably best to leave the irony to the competent.


Well, if we want to get technical, it's comic incongruity. I'm using it as a satirical device to mock the vice and folly of humanity.

I thought Intaki were supposed to be educated? I guess Daddy's wallet can't pay for everything, can it?

Andreus Ixiris
Gallente
Mixed Metaphor
Posted - 2011.08.16 10:24:00 - [19]
 

Originally by: Alain Octirant
Well, if we want to get technical, it's comic incongruity. I'm using it as a satirical device to mock the vice and folly of humanity.


Given how much of it you embody, I'm surprised you're so bad at it. One would at least think you could benefit from experience.

Originally by: Alain Octirant
I thought Intaki were supposed to be educated? I guess Daddy's wallet can't pay for everything, can it?


Actually, I was cut off from my family inheritance when I chose to become a capsuleer in service of the Federation, a fact that is - thanks to my father - now a matter of public record. Every centISK in my wallet besides the first five thousand ISK graduation loan was obtained through my own effort and skill. Thusly, your comment reveals you for the ignorant loudmouth that you are.

Alain Octirant
Gallente
Federal Nationalist Party
Posted - 2011.08.16 10:42:00 - [20]
 

Edited by: Alain Octirant on 16/08/2011 10:43:07
Originally by: Andreus Ixiris
Given how much of it you embody, I'm surprised you're so bad at it. One would at least think you could benefit from experience.


Your invective needs work. Talk to Keating, he should be able to give you a crash course. There is too much ambiguity in your insult for it to be effective. You'd be torn apart in the Senate in about five minutes, even by an opponent as ineffectual as a Sociocrat.

Originally by: Andreus Ixiris
Actually, I was cut off from my family inheritance when I chose to become a capsuleer in service of the Federation, a fact that is - thanks to my father - now a matter of public record. Every centISK in my wallet besides the first five thousand ISK graduation loan was obtained through my own effort and skill. Thusly, your comment reveals you for the ignorant loudmouth that you are.


As fate and the Federal Intelligence Office would have it, I was aware of your disagreement with your wealthy Father. In all frankness, after you've bleated about it far and wide, I'd be surprised if there's a gossip mag this side of Vivanier that doesn't know. However, one's education in the functional techniques of literary analysis hopefully takes place before one gets one's capsuleers' licence, at a time when you were still nestled safely in the bosom of your family. I was merely stating that it is a pity that the profits of your father's real estate interests did not extend to getting you an education that might separate you from the bilges of the immobile underclass.

Andreus Ixiris
Gallente
Mixed Metaphor
Posted - 2011.08.16 11:05:00 - [21]
 

Originally by: Alain Octirant
Your invective needs work. Talk to Keating, he should be able to give you a crash course. There is too much ambiguity in your insult for it to be effective. You'd be torn apart in the Senate in about five minutes, even by an opponent as ineffectual as a Sociocrat.


There's a difference between lack of skill and lack of effort. My invective is perfectly serviceable against people who are worth the time it takes to think up a good insult.

Originally by: Alain Octirant
As fate and the Federal Intelligence Office would have it


Please don't act like you're big pals with the FIO. All my drinking buddies there think you're a tosser.

Originally by: Alain Octirant
I was aware of your disagreement with your wealthy Father. In all frankness, after you've bleated about it far and wide, I'd be surprised if there's a gossip mag this side of Vivanier that doesn't know.


Actually, I've mentioned it about three times. My father's the one who does most of the talking. You'd get along very well with him, come to think of it. You're both bitter, arrogant windbags whose stars are rapidly fading, and will pass unmourned by their unappreciated children.

Originally by: Alain Octirant
However, one's education in the functional techniques of literary analysis hopefully takes place before one gets one's capsuleers' licence, at a time when you were still nestled safely in the bosom of your family.


I wouldn't throw those large words around so freely. You might have someone's eye out, and more importantly, someone might make the mistake of assuming you actually understand what they mean. And in actuality, I haven't spent more than six hours in Calluya since I was twelve.

Originally by: Alain Octirant
I was merely stating that it is a pity that the profits of your father's real estate interests did not extend to getting you an education that might separate you from the bilges of the immobile underclass.


Except I became a capsuleer, the fraction of whose political and financial weight accumulated in the past year dwarfs what you'd have to work for a century to achieve.

And I own roughly 75% of my father's former real estate interests now. So that's funny too.

Nakal Ashera
Posted - 2011.08.16 11:29:00 - [22]
 

In regards to the original topic, while I understand and respect why the ILF are concerned for the welfare of their people - and indeed, why they might want to persue a seperatist agenda - it does seem somewhat bizzare to take on a policy that inherently seems to assume that the Intaki system is it's own independent state already, when it is still very much linked to the Federation legally and economically. Going against (what I understand to be) much of the populaces own desires in the process.

Wanting something doesn't make it true, and it's dangerous to assume that it does.

Alain Octirant
Gallente
Federal Nationalist Party
Posted - 2011.08.16 11:47:00 - [23]
 

Edited by: Alain Octirant on 16/08/2011 11:47:47
Originally by: Andreus Ixiris
Except I became a capsuleer, the fraction of whose political and financial weight accumulated in the past year dwarfs what you'd have to work for a century to achieve.

And I own roughly 75% of my father's former real estate interests now. So that's funny too.


Ah, upward mobility, the Gallente Dream in action! This, if nothing else, warms my heart. Keep making yourself rich, General. I'm sure the Sociocrats will tax the profits of your enterprise back to the Federation in no time.

Andreus Ixiris
Gallente
Mixed Metaphor
Posted - 2011.08.16 12:17:00 - [24]
 

Originally by: Alain Octirant
Ah, upward mobility, the Gallente Dream in action! This, if nothing else, warms my heart. Keep making yourself rich, General. I'm sure the Sociocrats will tax the profits of your enterprise back to the Federation in no time.


You really don't know much about the way capsuleer cashflow works, do you?

Alain Octirant
Gallente
Federal Nationalist Party
Posted - 2011.08.16 12:22:00 - [25]
 

Originally by: Andreus Ixiris
Originally by: Alain Octirant
Ah, upward mobility, the Gallente Dream in action! This, if nothing else, warms my heart. Keep making yourself rich, General. I'm sure the Sociocrats will tax the profits of your enterprise back to the Federation in no time.


You really don't know much about the way capsuleer cashflow works, do you?


Hyperbole, General. It's another one of those techniques your education missed.

Andreus Ixiris
Gallente
Mixed Metaphor
Posted - 2011.08.16 15:25:00 - [26]
 

Originally by: Alain Octirant
Hyperbole, General. It's another one of those techniques your education missed.


You keep using these words that I don't think you actually understand the meaning of. You should probably stick to gala luncheons and leave the rhetoric to your speechwriters.

That is, if you can afford them.

Alain Octirant
Gallente
Federal Nationalist Party
Posted - 2011.08.16 20:11:00 - [27]
 

Originally by: Andreus Ixiris
You keep using these words that I don't think you actually understand the meaning of.


What, dramatic exaggeration to prove a point? Sounds a bit like your life, don't you think?

Nakal Ashera
Posted - 2011.08.17 12:00:00 - [28]
 

Edited by: Nakal Ashera on 17/08/2011 12:01:27
Mister Octirant, you seem somewhat determined to pettily bully captain Ixiris, there. While I am not overly familar with your politics, I should hope that you conduct then in a manner somewhat more professionally then this, for the sake of your own platform.

Then again, he does seem to be mocking you for little more then percieved-poverty at this point, which I suppose is a little immature itself.

I must say, it's somewhat unsettling to see what I assume to be two Gallente nationalists utterly at eachothers throats for no discernible reason, and certainly not one related to the issue at hand.

Andreus Ixiris
Gallente
Mixed Metaphor
Posted - 2011.08.17 12:36:00 - [29]
 

Originally by: Nakal Ashera
Mister Octirant, you seem somewhat determined to pettily bully captain Ixiris, there.


Oh, don't worry, to be a bully you need to have both some means of causing irritation that's more than a purely philosophical dislike, and some form of power to cause injury or distress. Mr. Octirant has neither.

That's not really the only thing he lacks, though.

Originally by: Nakal Ashera
Then again, he does seem to be mocking you for little more then percieved-poverty at this point, which I suppose is a little immature itself.


Well, it's not like his political career is going anywhere. The last thing I remember the Nationalists doing was making a political alliance with the GIPA, who turned out to be planning to asset-strip Federation Customs to allow the proliferation of illegal drugs - and immigrants - into Federal territory. He's not very good at picking his friends.

Originally by: Nakal Ashera
I must say, it's somewhat unsettling to see what I assume to be two Gallente nationalists


I'm an Intaki Federalist.

Lucius Blackstone
Caldari
Posted - 2011.08.17 16:41:00 - [30]
 

And you wonder why the Caldari seceded all those years ago? Was it not for similar reasons the Intaki have now? Your Gallente politician does nothing but spout insults at the same people he probably trod on on his way to... something resembling a political career. The Gallente will never learn as far as I can see. First we Caldari leave their pathetic "free democracy," and now the Intaki are poised to secede as well. It's only a matter of time before only the people of Luminaire are left, and then we'll see who's homeworld will be held hostage.


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