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coolzero
Gallente
Posted - 2011.07.27 18:30:00 - [31]
 

ill be playing swtor..

but wont quit EVE for it just yet


Blacksquirrel
Posted - 2011.07.27 18:33:00 - [32]
 

Impact WOW or other type of MMO's more than anything... Really tho if you're a Star wars fanboi your judgement has already been clouded, as $150 preorders for trinkets have been sold out, and there's mass anger if you're not an America, or live in the major EU nations.

Honestly assuming the launch goes rather smoothly (no bugs/crashes, good server launches), and they have a fair amount of maintenance after the fact. I would assume this could give WOW a run for its money. Perhaps not a WOW killer due to the Asian market not really that into Star wars as much, but defiantly gonna be second place.

I mean it's the same style game, same style gameplay, with updated graphics, voice, and the name star wars.

Dalloway Jones
Minmatar
Republic Military School
Posted - 2011.07.27 18:51:00 - [33]
 

It looks bad. I'm waiting for Guild Wars 2 personally but that is free to play so if I am still playing EVE then I won't really have to quit.

NeoShocker
Caldari
Interstellar eXodus
BricK sQuAD.
Posted - 2011.07.28 07:28:00 - [34]
 

Might put a dent on Eve-O subs, but they will be back. People always seem to quit WoW-like games after 3 months. Did you know Space combat is like roller coasters? Big turn off. Was hoping something like X-Wing Vs. Tie Fighter flight sim.

E man Industries
Posted - 2011.07.28 17:08:00 - [35]
 

Yes it well....lots of people are looking forward to playing TOR.
But it is up to EA to keep them.

It is also a very rollercoaster tpye mmo...

Personally I'm staying EvE but will keep an eye on it.

REiiGN15
Caldari
Posted - 2011.07.28 22:39:00 - [36]
 

Game is going to last a month. You can hit the top level in the game at 2 weeks. It's like KOTOR3 with a long drawn-out story for each class you pick. Starts getting real repetitive though after a while and the side missions are a bunch of destroy/kill 30/40/50 of whatever or whoever.

Not having played a "rollercoaster" game like that before I was getting ****ed at grouping. You group up with others and they start getting *****y when you accidentally **** up the aggro. I picked the Sith Warrior Marauder. He just tears stuff up with 2 lightsabers. AoE are highly discouraged in groups and that takes fun away.

PvP was okay but its like EVE. You could do okay 1v1, but a lot of times it was a gangbang. Plus, the fact that no one used teamwork. There are planets with straight open PvP. On worlds that aren't that way, you can flag yourself for open PvP.

Ayieka
Caldari
Posted - 2011.07.29 03:45:00 - [37]
 

tbh, after playing the beta a bit, it just looks like wow with lightsabers. its a different niche than EVE.

Alex Sinai
Mining And Probing Specialists
Posted - 2011.07.29 19:41:00 - [38]
 

I'm staying with EVE.
Nothing as decent as it not exist on market or planned for release as far as i know.
EVE perfectly fits the game i was looking for ages as it is now. Great sci-fi gameplay nice graphics excellent support and community. What else is there of that kind. Nothing really.

Roosterton
Eternal Frontier
Posted - 2011.07.30 17:13:00 - [39]
 

Edited by: Roosterton on 30/07/2011 17:13:15
A craptastic EA themepark MMO WoW-clone-in-space is much more likely to compete with WoW fans than EVE fans. My guess is that it will steal a % of the WoW population who like Star Wars, but the EVE population who like starwars are playing EVE for a deeper reason than "lol it's in space just like starwars." (i.e, the sandbox, the player driven economy, the open PVP)

Honestly, reading the ToR forums just makes me depressed. Uptight mods who make the EVE devs look like ponies, whiny kids who can't fathom a risky, pointful environment (one guy said "but people might commit suicide if there's item loss) and in general, people who make me want to rage into oblivion.

It's disappointing that BioWare decided to pursue that instead of KOTOR 3, (they cancelled it to pursue TOR) which was undoubtedly one of the best single player RPG series' I have ever played. (Okay, maybe rivaling Mass Effect.)

baltec1
Posted - 2011.07.30 19:51:00 - [40]
 

TOR is as much of a threat as STO was.

Yoa Loother
Posted - 2011.08.01 11:05:00 - [41]
 

Edited by: Yoa Loother on 01/08/2011 11:06:28
Originally by: baltec1
TOR is as much of a threat as STO was.

You guys keep saying that, until it dawns on you that CCP is working hard on becoming JUST THAT. Another theme park. The debtors eventually will want so.

Somehow it just doesn´t seem to sink in that only a relatively small number actually "enjoys" that fabled PvP (aka gate ganking, drake blobbing and super hot dropping).

MOST people in eve are doing mission in high-sec.

Get. It. Already!

And Star Wars and Trek Online do missions a hundred times better than EVE will ever hope to. Heck, about everybody does.

Trek Online iterates on their game with a fraction of CCP´s manpower 2 times as fast. Bioware is about done with porting their Star Wars game to the MMO format, and Guild Wars 2 will probably wipe the floor with the whole genre it seems.

So yeah, threat.

Suitonia
Gallente
Genos Occidere
HYDRA RELOADED
Posted - 2011.08.01 11:58:00 - [42]
 

I don't think it will have a significant impact on eve. Really, it's a completely different genre of game, the only real similarities the two have are that they are both space themed Sci-fi games. There certainly will be a bunch of eve players who it appeals to mostly sci-fi fans, our Star Wars Galaxies Refugees, and Star Wars fans.

SWTOR is very PvE based and doesn't have many sandbox elements at all, with instanced PvP/PvE encounters.

baltec1
Posted - 2011.08.01 12:36:00 - [43]
 

Originally by: Yoa Loother
Edited by: Yoa Loother on 01/08/2011 11:06:28
Originally by: baltec1
TOR is as much of a threat as STO was.

You guys keep saying that, until it dawns on you that CCP is working hard on becoming JUST THAT. Another theme park. The debtors eventually will want so.

Somehow it just doesn´t seem to sink in that only a relatively small number actually "enjoys" that fabled PvP (aka gate ganking, drake blobbing and super hot dropping).

MOST people in eve are doing mission in high-sec.

Get. It. Already!

And Star Wars and Trek Online do missions a hundred times better than EVE will ever hope to. Heck, about everybody does.

Trek Online iterates on their game with a fraction of CCP´s manpower 2 times as fast. Bioware is about done with porting their Star Wars game to the MMO format, and Guild Wars 2 will probably wipe the floor with the whole genre it seems.

So yeah, threat.



People like you have been saying that for the last decade. Simple fact is STO failed to kill eve and infact EVE stole way more players from STO than the other way around. TOR is simply yet another over hyped MMO that does what WoW does and nothing of what eve does.

The volcanic nature of iceland is a bigger threat to this game than TOR will ever be.

Yoa Loother
Posted - 2011.08.01 13:52:00 - [44]
 

Edited by: Yoa Loother on 01/08/2011 13:57:17
Originally by: baltec1
The fearless bullheadedness of iceland Devs is a bigger threat to this game than TOR will ever be.
Corrected.

STO had the most effed up start of any MMO I heard of, but still persevered due to its rock-hard IP base. After the stupid Frenchies sold Cryptic they now have a firm financial backing and it´s getting polished and upgraded constantly. Already surpassing ANYTHING EVE has to offer in PVE content.
With a much more immersive space engine and now ground combat engine too(compared to LOLcarna).

TOR´s IP leaves EVE´s sandbox in the dust too. The WoW carbon copy will make sure all the EVE->WoW refugees will ignore EVE for a while longer.

My personal bet is on Guild Wars 2 breaking the camels back, if the Realm PvP and new cooperative PvE will hold what is promised.

The subs are in decline, no arguing about that.
2 years of neglecting the "sucking chest wounds" and forcing a ridiculous beta client techdemo on the playerbase will do that.
It doesn´t take much for a medium software house with such a small player base to go under. Especially if they expand worldwide too quick developing 3 MMOs simultaneously.


baltec1
Posted - 2011.08.01 14:08:00 - [45]
 

Oh please, I have played STO. The pve is just as bland as eves, there is only so many times you can do the same mission with a different skin before you see the pattern and the lack of any risk whatsoever sucks all of the joy out of it.

STO was never a threat because it does nothing eve does and neither will TOR.

Yoa Loother
Posted - 2011.08.01 14:54:00 - [46]
 

Originally by: baltec1
Oh please, I have played STO. The pve is just as bland as eves,
STO was never a threat because it does nothing eve does and neither will TOR.

Let me guess, you played beta or during the first 6 moths and now you KNOW STO for evar!
Well I played it too about 10 months or so ago and even then it was much more fun than any LVL4 ever invented by CCP. As for your risk dependency (aka reason to grind), just dial up the damn difficulty.

It´s a threat simply because people get fed up with EVE much quicker, eventually they see the sandbox is full of turds and invest their monies somewhere else.

Ruffio Sepico
Minmatar
Hidden Agenda
Deep Space Engineering
Posted - 2011.08.01 20:09:00 - [47]
 


Did recently take part in a 30 days or so test of SW:TOR. It feels like a ok singel player RPG game you play with other players doing their story arch online as well. Feels more like play Mass Effect than SW though.

After you play through your story arch, and reach level cap, not much to do other than roll another character and do another story arch imho.
There is some group content, but not enough to make you keep subscribe for month after month.





baltec1
Posted - 2011.08.02 07:28:00 - [48]
 

Originally by: Yoa Loother

Let me guess, you played beta or during the first 6 moths and now you KNOW STO for evar!
Well I played it too about 10 months or so ago and even then it was much more fun than any LVL4 ever invented by CCP. As for your risk dependency (aka reason to grind), just dial up the damn difficulty.

It´s a threat simply because people get fed up with EVE much quicker, eventually they see the sandbox is full of turds and invest their monies somewhere else.


I got a free week offer the other month and managed to finish everything they have added in the past year. I like the idea of player made missions but the market is dead, pve on any difficulty lacks any risk, space feels like you are flying around in a shoe box and the main point of star trek (exploring) just is not there. Oddly enough STO feels even more like a submarine game than eve.

Dray
Caldari
Euphoria Released
HYDRA RELOADED
Posted - 2011.08.02 10:06:00 - [49]
 

Originally by: Yoa Loother
Edited by: Yoa Loother on 01/08/2011 11:06:28
Originally by: baltec1
TOR is as much of a threat as STO was.

You guys keep saying that, until it dawns on you that CCP is working hard on becoming JUST THAT. Another theme park. The debtors eventually will want so.

Somehow it just doesn´t seem to sink in that only a relatively small number actually "enjoys" that fabled PvP (aka gate ganking, drake blobbing and super hot dropping).

MOST people in eve are doing mission in high-sec.

Get. It. Already!

And Star Wars and Trek Online do missions a hundred times better than EVE will ever hope to. Heck, about everybody does.

Trek Online iterates on their game with a fraction of CCP´s manpower 2 times as fast. Bioware is about done with porting their Star Wars game to the MMO format, and Guild Wars 2 will probably wipe the floor with the whole genre it seems.

So yeah, threat.


Looks like the dealer that Amy Winehouse used has a new customer.

To be a threat it has to be similar enough to pull players from Eve that are there for it's unique game play, it just looks like another WoW grindfest, where I would expect it to shine is in pve story and content with Bioware at the helm but after watching that E3 dev walkthru video it looks very average at best.

Bane Necran
Minmatar
Posted - 2011.08.02 17:08:00 - [50]
 

The people who would leave EVE for that are the type of people who don't belong in EVE to begin with. The more people who do leave for it, the better off EVE is.

Vogue
Short Bus Pole Dancers
Posted - 2011.08.08 02:05:00 - [51]
 

I started playing Star Trek Online three weeks ago. It is not really a direct competitor to EVE so it offers a different alternative. The space ship combat is quite enjoyable. The ground missions are ok but no where near as immersive as WOW like mmo's.

Alpheias
Euphoria Released
HYDRA RELOADED
Posted - 2011.08.08 03:59:00 - [52]
 

Edited by: Alpheias on 08/08/2011 04:02:28
No, because I doubt the game can survive all the hype that is buzzing around it for a game that isn't really bringing anything new. Voiced games are hardly new in itself, nor is morally ambiguous decisions or underlings.

I think it will be a game that a majority of people will play and then get bored of after a month or two.

edit: early morning and spellingMad

VKhaun Vex
Posted - 2011.08.08 05:07:00 - [53]
 

Originally by: Alpheias
Edited by: Alpheias on 08/08/2011 04:02:28
No, because I doubt the game can survive all the hype that is buzzing around it for a game that isn't really bringing anything new. Voiced games are hardly new in itself, nor is morally ambiguous decisions or underlings.

I think it will be a game that a majority of people will play and then get bored of after a month or two.



QFT

The extensive voice overs especially are a mistake in my opinion. Nice as they are, they don't add enough to really keep people, but it's plenty to send people away real quick once you start getting past the first three months.

As they add new content they won't be able to keep up that production value and more and more it will turn to text or worse... NPC's that repeat the same lines constantly and people will feel badly about progress and point out that the quality is going down. If they DO keep up that production value, it will annihilate their profits and productivity. No matter how you spin it, they're going to burn out fast, pull people in for a first expansion, and then die or go F2P+MT.

One straw among many on a weak old camel.
My money says this game is a bad bet for long term.

I'm also on the GW2 bandwagon.


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