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Jenna Nichols
Posted - 2011.07.27 14:38:00 - [1]
 

Im fairly new a little over 5mil SP and just recently got into a Hulk. Ive been hearing about hulkaggedon and Im wondering how much I have to worry about this? I never leave hi-sec with my Hulk do I still have to park it while huckaggedon is going on?

Damiez
Amarr
Eye of God
Intergalactic Exports Group
Posted - 2011.07.27 14:50:00 - [2]
 

If hulkageddon runs again, it will be around 8 months away. Am I correct in thinking that the guy(s) that run this EVEnt are banned?


Jenna Nichols
Posted - 2011.07.27 14:53:00 - [3]
 

If you look at Crime and Punishment they still seem to be organizing it through Alts and talking about doing it end of summer.

Damiez
Amarr
Eye of God
Intergalactic Exports Group
Posted - 2011.07.27 14:54:00 - [4]
 

Sometimes I'm glad to be mistaken, looking forward to this one.

Llambda
Space Llama Industries
Posted - 2011.07.27 15:17:00 - [5]
 

Originally by: Damiez
If hulkageddon runs again, it will be around 8 months away. Am I correct in thinking that the guy(s) that run this EVEnt are banned?




Hulkageddon never really stops. It's just that sometimes, there are prizes.

Phugoid
Posted - 2011.07.27 16:40:00 - [6]
 

congrats on ur first Hulk.

I can easily get one, probs will soon, but right now happy with a Covetor that I use with GSCs.
Anywaz, WHEN Hulkageddon happens again, unfortunately yes, the Hulk, along with most exhumers/miners will be prey :(

What I do during that evil time, is concentrate on other stuff, like courier runs, missions and some PI.

But yes, u do have to worry. U can still mine, its just that there are bad guys out there specifically looking to kill defenseless capsuleers during that time, and ur risk of being ganked goes way, way up. Its deff not a relaxing time to mine.
Tho Ive never been a victim to a Hulkageddon, I have been ganked once mining ice.

Good Luck

Coeus Enderas
Caldari
Posted - 2011.07.27 16:54:00 - [7]
 

you wont have to worry much if you can find yourself a safe pocket of High-sec surrounded by low-sec. they tend to focus on the easy prey with the "main" high-sec area that connect all the empires. another option is to find a system with less people in it than belts, and mine for a bit in a cheaper hull, like a retriever, just to see if the current people come to **** with you. then if it feels safe bring out the hulk and start mining. keep your eye on chat and always be aligned to a planet/star/station and if you see 3 or 4 people suddenly appear in local chat cut your losses and warp away.

on a side note, i never really understood why EvE seems to hate miners so damn much. they don't interfere in profits from missions, they don't engage in pvp. i guess i would find it fun the first time just for tears, but after that it would just seem like a giant waste of money

Reeper 2435
Posted - 2011.07.27 18:19:00 - [8]
 

nobody hates the miners, the issue is ship turnover. Missions and PVP players occassionally lose ships due to the combat nature of what they are doing thus having to buy new ships thus giving the miners the reason to mine and be productive. However, many missioners and pvp'ers are also miners and understand that to keep our economy alive it takes destruction of resources to give rise to the manufacturing element of the game. Mining ships get bottlenecked when they never blow up. In a sense, the attempt is to keep retrievers and hulks from being on the field for 10 years pulling in 10,000 tmies thier value from purchase. You have to buy a real car every so often in life, it's no different here.
Originally by: Coeus Enderas

on a side note, i never really understood why EvE seems to hate miners so damn much.

Reeper 2435
Posted - 2011.07.27 18:21:00 - [9]
 

I'm watching a hulkd right now... me and my 3 buddies are feeling anxious... is that you??
Originally by: Phugoid

But yes, u do have to worry. U can still mine, its just that there are bad guys out there specifically looking to kill defenseless capsuleers during that time, and ur risk of being ganked goes way, way up. Its deff not a relaxing time to mine.
Tho Ive never been a victim to a Hulkageddon, I have been ganked once mining ice.

Good Luck

Phugoid
Posted - 2011.07.27 19:09:00 - [10]
 

Originally by: Reeper 2435
I'm watching a hulkd right now... me and my 3 buddies are feeling anxious... is that you??
Originally by: Phugoid

But yes, u do have to worry. U can still mine, its just that there are bad guys out there specifically looking to kill defenseless capsuleers during that time, and ur risk of being ganked goes way, way up. Its deff not a relaxing time to mine.
Tho Ive never been a victim to a Hulkageddon, I have been ganked once mining ice.

Good Luck



HaHa Reeper.... cant be me, cuz I dont have Hulk :)
Dont blow up my Covetor Rolling Eyes

Reeper 2435
Posted - 2011.07.27 19:34:00 - [11]
 

lol, no sir. But i can say that about 95% of the time when i do gank a miner if they are relaxed about things, i've paid for their ship. My mission isn't to greif, but to create turnover. But emo rages and those that threaten me with "big brother." are laughed at.
Originally by: Phugoid
Originally by: Reeper 2435
I'm watching a hulkd right now... me and my 3 buddies are feeling anxious... is that you??
Originally by: Phugoid

But yes, u do have to worry. U can still mine, its just that there are bad guys out there specifically looking to kill defenseless capsuleers during that time, and ur risk of being ganked goes way, way up. Its deff not a relaxing time to mine.
Tho Ive never been a victim to a Hulkageddon, I have been ganked once mining ice.

Good Luck



HaHa Reeper.... cant be me, cuz I dont have Hulk :)
Dont blow up my Covetor Rolling Eyes

Phugoid
Posted - 2011.07.27 19:45:00 - [12]
 

understood, all part of the game... all good

My Postman
Posted - 2011.07.28 11:18:00 - [13]
 

Actually you CAN tank a Hulk up to 20k EHP which will scare off 98% of the gankers, as there might be a easier pray next belt. In such a tanked Hulk you are immune to dessy ganking, as long as they dont show up in superior numbers (more than 5). You might be able to tank a single gank typhoon, depending if he is able to set off a second round of his howitzers, which depends in which sec status you are mining (wont be able to shoot a second round in 1.0, could work in 0.5). When the disco lights are on (smartbombing) you are toast anyway.

Generally spoken, for a week or two while hulkageddon happens, you can do different things when paranoia strikes, or you tank up your hulk, watch local carefully, and use your directional scanner to see probes. Always, always stay aligned to station or else, this might not save your a** as your hulk needs an awful lot of time to reach warp speed, but it might help.

Personally i wouldnt care that much about the next hulkageddon, as far as i know helicity boson is still banned, and the next event might not have the same number of ppl joining. Read C & P to get an imagine of how big the event will be.

Finally keep in might that EVERYTHING can be ganked, just depends on afford.

Wa'roun
Quantum Cats Syndicate
Posted - 2011.07.28 11:23:00 - [14]
 

Don't mine in belts.
Mine in those missions that have an accel gate and a 30+km slowboat to the belt.
With Dscan going no one can warp on top of you when they must first scan you down, then land on the accel gate, use the gate, and wind up tens of kms away from you.

Toshiro GreyHawk
Posted - 2011.07.30 11:59:00 - [15]
 

To reiterate some of what was said above:

1) Yes. Mine mission space - most of them are to lazy to probe you down.

2) For those not to lazy to Probe you down, use DScan to look for Combat Scanner Probes. If they don't probe they can't find you in mission space.

3) If they do find you - they will warp in at the beacon giving you some distance/time to react if they are farther away.

4) Check Crime & Punishment now and again to get a heads up on when another Hulkageddon is coming and maybe run missions for a while. Mission running improves your standings which decreases your fees for using an NPC Corporations Stations.

JaseNZ
Gallente
The Suicide Kings
Test Alliance Please Ignore
Posted - 2011.07.30 12:38:00 - [16]
 

Originally by: Llambda
Hulkageddon never really stops. It's just that sometimes, there are prizes.


QFT.

J Kunjeh
Gallente
Posted - 2011.07.30 19:21:00 - [17]
 

I've started wondering if Hulkageddon will be run this year now that Helicity has been permabanned?

Tau Cabalander
Posted - 2011.07.30 20:06:00 - [18]
 

Edited by: Tau Cabalander on 30/07/2011 20:32:54

A Hulk costs about 200 million ISK these days.

I personally have a real problem with a ship that expensive using a fit that can be popped by an insured suicide Thrasher, and I have billions in my wallet. At least an insured suicide Tempest pilot put some effort into it.

So I watch local, and dscan, and I bug-out if things look suspicious.

If you are mining solo, you are asking for trouble. If you have an Orca or hauler in the fleet, then you can fit much more defensively. Solo you are better-off using a cheap Covetor.

This fleet fit is no guarantee of survival, especially against multiple suicide ships, but it can often survive long enough, especially if you remember to overheat the hardners. Don't be afraid to overheat whenever you think thinks look strange; hardeners last a LONG time (minutes) when overheated.

You can also choose to change the Hulk's drones to EC-600 for a another chance at life, and let the Orca deal with the NPC rats. Remember you can change your drones with an Orca's fitting service (also handy for fitting a tractor beam and salvager to clean-up the wrecks, assuming there isn't a Noctis in the Orca's ship bay), but they have to be out and set aggressive before the attack starts to be effective. Don't use them on NPC rats, as the rats will just get jammed, re-target, and destroy the EC-600 drones.

I use a Caldari Navy Magnetic Scattering Amplifier instead of the Viscoelastic EM Ward Salubrity I, because EM is the damage you can expect (EMP projectiles, multi-frequency crystals), and it is the Hulk's weakest resist. I also have EM + Thermal Compensation skill level 5 on my Hulk pilots. Thermal shield resist on the Hulk is fine as-is (mine has 83% EM / 84% Therm / 83% Kin / 84% Exp).


[Hulk, Hisec]
Damage Control II
Power Diagnostic System II

Invulnerability Field II
Viscoelastic EM Ward Salubrity I
Additional Thermal Barrier Emitter I
Invulnerability Field II

Modulated Strip Miner II, Plagioclase Mining Crystal II
Modulated Strip Miner II, Plagioclase Mining Crystal II
Modulated Strip Miner II, Plagioclase Mining Crystal II

Medium Core Defence Field Extender I
Medium Core Defence Field Extender I


Hobgoblin II x5
Mining Drone II x5


[Orca, Booster]
Reinforced Bulkheads II
Damage Control II

Large Shield Extender II
Photon Scattering Field II
Invulnerability Field II
Invulnerability Field II

Mining Foreman Link - Mining Laser Field Enhancement
Mining Foreman Link - Laser Optimization
Siege Warfare Link - Shield Harmonizing

Large Cargohold Optimization I
Large Cargohold Optimization I
Large Cargohold Optimization I


Hobgoblin II x5
Hammerhead II x5


 

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