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Astenion
Gallente
Spiritus Draconis
Posted - 2011.07.26 13:37:00 - [31]
 

Edited by: Astenion on 26/07/2011 13:41:03
LOL @ all of you. Anyone who actually likes Incarna even though its flaws have been acknowledged is obviously a troll or CCP alt, because it's IMPOSSIBLE that anyone would ever have a differing opinion than all of you dinosaurs. Seriously, why are you still here? You hate the game now, so the only reason I can come up with is you simply want to whine and moan on the forums.

Go "protest" and attack some indestructible stations and then just biomass; stop spamming the forums while you still have the game time left and just leave altogether.

You're all like those whiny musicians in bands (and if you've ever played in a band, you know what I'm talking about) who get angry and say, "I'm gonna leave and not come back, and I'm taking my cables and all my stuff with me!!! I'm warning you, I'm not coming back!!!", when what you really mean is, "Please stroke my ego some more so I can feel more important than I actually am; I want to feel like my input is important!" No one cares about your leaving, no one cares about how long you've been playing, and no one wants to hear any more crap roll out of your cakehole because all you do is bring negativity and hinder progress. You are the Catholic Church of video gaming.

Go get some sunshine you monitor tanned, elitist dorks. We will continue to have our life priorities straight and continue to enjoy Eve for what it is: a game.

Red Maiden
Gallente
Aliastra
Posted - 2011.07.26 13:42:00 - [32]
 

Edited by: Red Maiden on 26/07/2011 13:44:34
Woo hoo, here come the bitter vets with their whine glasses, as if on cue. It's like they have radar that attracts them to threads which contain positive thoughts about EVE. How dare someone think that Incarna might improve the initial experience for new players! How preposterous a person look forward to the direction of the game! The nerve!

Bitter vets, just go. Unsub. Stop posting. Don't look back. If you don't like the game, do yourself a favor and just leave. I'm thinking of you here. There are so many fun things to do in this world, why waste it on something that you don't enjoy?

The good thing is that no one will miss you, no one will care about your ragequit, so don't worry about the feelings of those who continue playing. Plus, you'll deflate the SP economy with your departure, thus further improving a new player's experience. It's a win win.

Astenion
Gallente
Spiritus Draconis
Posted - 2011.07.26 13:53:00 - [33]
 

Edited by: Astenion on 26/07/2011 14:02:32
I'm just glad these vets aren't real life lawyers or judges because they hear half of one side of the story and then just make up the rest without considering the facts. They wind themselves up into a frenzied mob and attack anyone with a differing opinion.

Seriously, you're all just like the Spanish Inquisition, only our torture comes from your continued presence in Eve. One can only assume you all are teenagers without fully matured brains and in the midst of the teenage war of hormones, because if you're at least in your 20s and you are still acting this ******ed, you contribute nothing to society.

I hope for all our sake the former is true.

Pok Nibin
Amarr
Posted - 2011.07.26 14:02:00 - [34]
 

Originally by: enterprisePSI
Confirming that i am running CQ at my old computer. Pentium 1 @55mhz with 64mb ram, and 1gb hdd, and i am getting 9001 fps @1980*1020 Neutral


Confirming all systems go. Foil hats equipped. Area 52 here we come.

Speaker4 theDead
Caldari
Posted - 2011.07.26 14:06:00 - [35]
 

Now that the Goons have taken over the CSM, Tinfoil is outlawed in Eve.
Please do not bring up that word again, as you may get banned from the forums for saying it now. Cool


Cunane Jeran
Gallente
Posted - 2011.07.26 14:35:00 - [36]
 

Edited by: Cunane Jeran on 26/07/2011 14:35:43
The CQ is good but at the same time I'm not 100% sold on the idea

1) ****ing on the old backstory - What happened to us being in capsules and suspended in fluid? Apparently its a step out onto a wire platform in the hanger balcony. I assume that we also just step back in fully clothed and off we go. Dislike this a lot.

2) The TV needs constant input - This is CCP, they'll get bored and suddenly we'll see the same RP news item for the next 6 months solid.

3) Docking up on short hops - to just pick up and drop off is a bit of a pain, I can see why we can't have a hybrid of the old and new system, maybe a disembark option.

Other than that, I like it.

Astenion
Gallente
Spiritus Draconis
Posted - 2011.07.26 14:48:00 - [37]
 

Edited by: Astenion on 26/07/2011 14:48:06
Originally by: Cunane Jeran
Edited by: Cunane Jeran on 26/07/2011 14:35:43
The CQ is good but at the same time I'm not 100% sold on the idea

1) ****ing on the old backstory - What happened to us being in capsules and suspended in fluid? Apparently its a step out onto a wire platform in the hanger balcony. I assume that we also just step back in fully clothed and off we go. Dislike this a lot.

2) The TV needs constant input - This is CCP, they'll get bored and suddenly we'll see the same RP news item for the next 6 months solid.

3) Docking up on short hops - to just pick up and drop off is a bit of a pain, I can see why we can't have a hybrid of the old and new system, maybe a disembark option.

Other than that, I like it.


Yeah those are my gripes too. I really dislike the ignoring of the game's lore by being out of your pod every time you dock up, which is why I think bringing back the original hangar view as an option will be a happy medium between the two.

Also the docking up on short hops can be a pain like you said, so I usually turn off the CQ when I'm doing a bit of flying around.

Mokokan
Posted - 2011.07.26 14:55:00 - [38]
 

I reside in neither the enraged-bitter-vet camp, nor the CCP-alt-fanboi club. But I do remember the very first negative impression I got as a brand new player: "what do you mean I can't get out of my ship? ....a pod?.....I can't even look around the inside of my ship?....WTF?.....This lame portrait is it?"

I got over it quickly enough. :)


Once I found an AGP card that would handle the shader mumb-jumbo that kicked me outta Eve, I got back into Incarna. I sure don't miss the hanger and spinning my ship, but I don't do a lot of ambulating around CQ either. Mostly I do what I did before. I even check out the "selection" in the Nex store every now and then. I vowed never to buy anything out of it, but then I remember a similar vow concerning GTC's for cash. Rolling Eyes

I think it's a shame a bunch of guys are leaving over some of this, and a shame lotsa people are just as willing to give them a helpful kick out the door.

0.0 is unavailable to the small independents, wormholes are the last frontier, and empire is full of gankers, scammers and station huggers. And don't even get me started about half-finished content from CCP. But you aren't gonna pry me outta this game with dynamite. It's too much fun in spite of everything......or maybe because of it all......




Astenion
Gallente
Spiritus Draconis
Posted - 2011.07.26 15:17:00 - [39]
 

Edited by: Astenion on 26/07/2011 15:26:42
I just re-read both Hilmar's email and the Fearless newsletter, and holy crap Batman, Eve players certainly did take that "golden goose" line WAY out of context!

When I first heard about it, it was here, on the boards, and something to the tune of, "OMGWTF CCP JUST CALLED US A BUNCH OF GOLDEN GEESE THAT FINANCE THEIR LAP OF LUXURY!!!!!!!1!ONE!!!!" However, when reading and re-reading it, it simply states that Eve is the golden goose which will finance other productions. DUH! Can you think of any other big titles out right now from CCP that makes money like Eve does? What else are they going to use to fund Dust/WoD, Monopoly money? What's the big deal here?

Are you telling me that Bioware shouldn't have used their past funds to develop Mass Effect, or that Blizzard shouldn't have used Diablo's popularity to develop WoW?

That Rockstar shouldn't have used GTA funds to create Red Dead Redemption?

Are you people ****ing kidding me? THIS is what you're upset over, the fact that they're investing the money made from Eve into other titles as well? Seriously? SERIOUSLY? THIS is what has your panties in a bunch? Grow up, you bunch of basement-dwelling children.

Your endless *****ing about all of this is akin to me buying a car from someone and then going back to tell him how to spend the money I gave him. Granted, I'd like to see a little more attention to Eve as well, but manpower has to be managed...they can't just throw a buttload of developers on something and not pay them. What if Dust/WoD become huge hits and become both cash cows? That means that there will be more money and more stuff for Eve as well. Have you ever thought about the possibility of Eve to go even further with the right capital? If so, how do you propose they get there? With a paltry 300k player base? Not gonna happen.

CCP is not Eve and Eve is not CCP. CCP is a money-making video game company and a pretty good one at that, at least for its relatively small size. It's fine to be unhappy about some things they do, and I agree with you that things need to be fixed, but do you really think your leaving because you're all butt-hurt because you didn't get your way is going to change their minds? You idiots need to learn the difference between CCP listening to its player base and CCP listening to YOU personally. Just because you say you want something doesn't mean you're going to get it. You can want in one hand and sh!t in the other and then see which hand gets filled first.

Lady Go Diveher
The Independent Troll Society
Posted - 2011.07.26 15:23:00 - [40]
 

ITT (and on the forums as a whole):

Poster : "INCARNA SUCKS!!!!"
Responses:

"+1"

"^THIS"

"SOMETHING-SOMETHING MONOCLES TROLOLOL!"

Poster : "I actually like Incarna, here's why"
Responses:

"DEV ALT!!!!!"

"CCP LIES!!!"

"U MAD BRO!?!"

"OMG CCP WHY U MAKE THESE THREADS!??!?"

It's ****ing old. Get a grip. Some people like Incarna. Want proof? Search on eve-search for "ambulation" and read the thousands of people who have wanted Incarna features for years.

OH NO WAIT.

I guess they were CCP alts getting ahead of the curve.

You're all pathetic. As stated, Perpetuum is that way ---->

Kraven Stark
Caldari
Atavism Industries
Posted - 2011.07.26 15:39:00 - [41]
 

This is an interesting thread to be reading. I have just reactivated my account about two weeks ago after a year and a half off and I have liked everything that I have seen that is new.

I didn't realize there was so much hate for bringing a more personal face to the game. That said, I have not immersed myself into the lore and I do not plan to. I'm here more for the social, team and gameplay aspects.

To me, this capsuler floating in some sort of embryotic fluid was just a way for CCP avoiding the "there is no player" speed bump in older versions of the game. Also, just out of curiosity, for those hung up fictional cannon, what was the deal with character creation in older versions and having faces if you were just a DNA sack in some bubble?

In any case, I guess I am one of the few looking forward to more places to explore in body form rather than spaceship.

Griselllda Blanco
Disco Deviants
Posted - 2011.07.26 15:49:00 - [42]
 

Look at all these NPC corp characters supporting CCP and trolling. Laughing

Kraven Stark
Caldari
Atavism Industries
Posted - 2011.07.26 15:56:00 - [43]
 

Edited by: Kraven Stark on 26/07/2011 15:56:06
Originally by: Griselllda Blanco
Look at all these NPC corp characters supporting CCP and trolling. Laughing


So people that do not fear change that they do not see a negative to are trolls?

Just trying to nail down whatever voodoo logic is in play here.

Xercodo
Amarr
Xovoni Directorate
Posted - 2011.07.26 15:59:00 - [44]
 

It's funny to see bitter vets actually starting to be beat out by the ppl that like the changes/new people/people that tried EVE before and like it so much more now than then

yes i like CQ, is it a bit slow for me? ya
but i still keep it on, and CCP has some more optimization to do

not a CCP alt but shoutout to CCP on the new nebulae, cant wait for taking lots of epic wallpaper screenies with those.

Rez Valintine
Caldari
Caldari Provisions
Posted - 2011.07.26 16:42:00 - [45]
 

Edited by: Rez Valintine on 26/07/2011 16:42:49
Originally by: Kraven Stark
Edited by: Kraven Stark on 26/07/2011 15:56:06
Originally by: Griselllda Blanco
Look at all these NPC corp characters supporting CCP and trolling. Laughing


So people that do not fear change that they do not see a negative to are trolls?

Just trying to nail down whatever voodoo logic is in play here.


You're "balls in" and you know it. Not a single roody-poo has contracted me a Tengu. Be the one, the guy, the individual who stands before change..

Mokokan
Posted - 2011.07.26 17:41:00 - [46]
 

Ok, now you just sound needy. Only one attempt to score a T3 per toon, per thread. I think that's established in a dev blog.....uh.....somewhere......

Garreth Vlox
Minmatar
Obsidian Inc.
Posted - 2011.07.26 19:24:00 - [47]
 

Originally by: Rez Valintine
Edited by: Rez Valintine on 26/07/2011 05:05:32
Preface: I’ve played this toon on and off since 2006 – he was made specifically for the Drake BC when it was released.

So I came back and made use of the 5 free days CCP gave me. You know what? I like it – in fact, I may renew.

I like how the Captain’s Quarters puts information at my fingertips; incursions, sov changes, etc – but what I like the most is that it adds immersion to the game, FOR ME. I’ve read many posts from users stating they can only get 1 or 2 fps or its slow and clunky – well to be honest, I’m running my client on a $500 Dell paired with a 9800GT I scored on Newegg for $80 – 1600x1200 smooth as silk – all settings set to HIGH. Still - you need to standardize your controls though - you know, like how every other MMO out there does it? I find them to be clunky and annoying.

Then there is NEX – what I would like to see added is the option to add more character slots to my account, starter packages for any new alts I would like to create, maybe an account wide wallet – stuff like that is the sort of thing that I (I as in me) would pay for. I have bought character slots in the past when I played EQ2, I have bought special mounts and pets for my toons in World of Warcraft, I have payed for faction and race changes, more server transfers than I can remember – well you get the idea.

So in summary, I like the direction but I feel it is incomplete. However, it is much, MUCH easier for new players to get in the game and get started, which is good for me as perhaps I can convince some my buddies who play WoW to give this game a try.

But CCP, please, PLEASE – do something about your credit card processing – I’m always getting flagged for “unauthorized purchases” or "fraudulent activity" due to the fact the transaction is taking place outside of the U.S., which in turn adds the hassle of using Paypal and a third party to get my account squared away.

That’s my .02 isk

Ciao

P.S.: To those of you quitting: Think any of you can hook a brother up with a Tengu before you go? Thanks! Smile


why do you guys even bother posting under alts? you talk just like all the rest of the devs , you ignore lack of content in the last 3 major updates, you ignore the fact that you broke several important features in the last 2 years and have stated you dont intend to fix anything for :18 months: so that you can focus on giving us more reasons to spend money at the CCP-MART, and you always ignore the fact that with anything less than a top of the line video card CQ makes the game glitchy and damn near unplayable.

Nuhm DeAra
Posted - 2011.07.26 19:35:00 - [48]
 

Originally by: Garreth Vlox
Originally by: Rez Valintine
Edited by: Rez Valintine on 26/07/2011 05:05:32
Preface: I’ve played this toon on and off since 2006 – he was made specifically for the Drake BC when it was released.

So I came back and made use of the 5 free days CCP gave me. You know what? I like it – in fact, I may renew.

I like how the Captain’s Quarters puts information at my fingertips; incursions, sov changes, etc – but what I like the most is that it adds immersion to the game, FOR ME. I’ve read many posts from users stating they can only get 1 or 2 fps or its slow and clunky – well to be honest, I’m running my client on a $500 Dell paired with a 9800GT I scored on Newegg for $80 – 1600x1200 smooth as silk – all settings set to HIGH. Still - you need to standardize your controls though - you know, like how every other MMO out there does it? I find them to be clunky and annoying.

Then there is NEX – what I would like to see added is the option to add more character slots to my account, starter packages for any new alts I would like to create, maybe an account wide wallet – stuff like that is the sort of thing that I (I as in me) would pay for. I have bought character slots in the past when I played EQ2, I have bought special mounts and pets for my toons in World of Warcraft, I have payed for faction and race changes, more server transfers than I can remember – well you get the idea.

So in summary, I like the direction but I feel it is incomplete. However, it is much, MUCH easier for new players to get in the game and get started, which is good for me as perhaps I can convince some my buddies who play WoW to give this game a try.

But CCP, please, PLEASE – do something about your credit card processing – I’m always getting flagged for “unauthorized purchases” or "fraudulent activity" due to the fact the transaction is taking place outside of the U.S., which in turn adds the hassle of using Paypal and a third party to get my account squared away.

That’s my .02 isk

Ciao

P.S.: To those of you quitting: Think any of you can hook a brother up with a Tengu before you go? Thanks! Smile


why do you guys even bother posting under alts? you talk just like all the rest of the devs , you ignore lack of content in the last 3 major updates, you ignore the fact that you broke several important features in the last 2 years and have stated you dont intend to fix anything for :18 months: so that you can focus on giving us more reasons to spend money at the CCP-MART, and you always ignore the fact that with anything less than a top of the line video card CQ makes the game glitchy and damn near unplayable.


Look Ma! A moron!

Diesel74
Caldari
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Posted - 2011.07.26 19:54:00 - [49]
 

Originally by: Astenion
Go get some sunshine you monitor tanned, elitist dorks. We will continue to have our life priorities straight and continue to enjoy Eve for what it is: a game.


I don't like Micro-transaction, an expansion full of fluff, and bad UI so I'm a loser with no life?

Thats pretty low CCP. Hire new PR plz.


Ricardo Gonzalo Montalban
Posted - 2011.07.26 19:54:00 - [50]
 

Originally by: Ciar Meara
Originally by: Shepard Book
WIt helps them feel things out and not do things as half baked.


Yeah like releasing Captains Quarters with just one quarter (get it) of the races.

Or releasing a client that is extremely erratic in terms of compatibility.

Or releasing a client that doens't multibox.

Originally by: Kalle Demos
Thats all EVE needs, another drake pilot,.. Rolling Eyes


that plays WoW...




I know of a private server that has vanilla wow :)

Suitonia
Gallente
Genos Occidere
HYDRA RELOADED
Posted - 2011.07.26 19:59:00 - [51]
 

General Discussion is now literally worse than CAOD.

If you don't agree with someones opinion then they're a CCP alt.

Rysdan Phar
Posted - 2011.07.26 20:09:00 - [52]
 

resubbed an alt for 5 free days. let it go offline again.

ccp said check out all the new features in the mail.

a) cq is disabled cos it melts my gcard -1 feature
b) ship spinning is gone -1 feature
c) nex is ignored cos i dont have €70 to spend on a monocle nor would i even want one. -1 feature for me.
d) jumpbridges nerfed -1 feature for a lot of ppl inc me

so far thats -4 features --- incarna feels like a contraction rather than an expansion for me.

Nuhm DeAra
Posted - 2011.07.26 20:11:00 - [53]
 

Originally by: Suitonia
General Discussion is now literally worse than CAOD.

If you don't agree with someones opinion then they're a CCP alt.


Welcome to the HerpaDerpaDome

Diesel74
Caldari
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Posted - 2011.07.26 20:12:00 - [54]
 

Edited by: Diesel74 on 26/07/2011 20:12:41
Originally by: Suitonia
General Discussion is now literally worse than CAOD.

If you don't agree with someones opinion then they're a CCP alt.


Stop trolling, Incarna sucks. It is a fact.

Nuhm DeAra
Posted - 2011.07.26 20:21:00 - [55]
 

Edited by: Nuhm DeAra on 26/07/2011 20:29:55
Originally by: Diesel74
Edited by: Diesel74 on 26/07/2011 20:12:41
Originally by: Suitonia
General Discussion is now literally worse than CAOD.

If you don't agree with someones opinion then they're a CCP alt.


Stop trolling, Incarna sucks. It is a fact.


Prime example of the Herp.

edit: Also, see below.

StukaBee
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2011.07.26 20:26:00 - [56]
 

I too have taken up the 5-day freesub.

Probably not coming back and paying for this terrible terrible game any time soon though!

Astenion
Gallente
Spiritus Draconis
Posted - 2011.07.26 21:04:00 - [57]
 

Edited by: Astenion on 26/07/2011 22:16:05
Originally by: Diesel74
Originally by: Astenion
Go get some sunshine you monitor tanned, elitist dorks. We will continue to have our life priorities straight and continue to enjoy Eve for what it is: a game.


I don't like Micro-transaction, an expansion full of fluff, and bad UI so I'm a loser with no life?

Thats pretty low CCP. Hire new PR plz.




What microtransactions? Aurum? Monocles? Last time I checked Eve is still subscription-based and said "microtransactions" are for vanity items. Do you people really believe the bull**** you spew? The hilarity of it all is that you can't even see that you're all *****ing over nothing. There has been so much hubbub about this NON-ISSUE that YOU PEOPLE somehow turned into an issue, and you're all like motorboats in a cesspool...all you do is stir up ****.

Yes, I call you ******s out for being, well, ******ed, and now I'm a spai for CCP. I'll go along with that. I'm secretly a CCP alt (Rolling Eyes), so I'll go on and speak on behalf of CCP: if all you're going to do is whine and cry over NON-EXISTENT problems, then unsub and GET THE **** OUT of our game. We don't want you, we don't need you, and we don't give two ****s how many accounts you have. We just want you to either pay us and STFU or leave and STFU; either way you'll be shutting the **** up. If you have a valid complaint about something you nutjobs haven't somehow invented in your simpleton minds, we'll be more than happy to hear it. Until then, just keep shutting the **** up.

My only problem with CCP is that they're being too nice to you *******s. I've watched all this stuff unfold over the last few weeks and I kept to myself about it, but now that I've read all the data and compared it with what you morons claim is happening, my only logical choice is to believe you're a bunch of illiterate idiots who have never had a big boy job. You nearly burned them at the stake for what you PERCEIVED to be a threat when it wasn't a threat at all, and yet CCP STILL kissed all your asses and patted you on the head. After the personal attacks I've seen on this forum towards CCP employees because you ****holes can't stand the sight of a ****ing monocle, be glad I'm not working in a position of power for CCP because you'd get permabanned.

CCP hasn't brought this game down, you have. Now if you don't mind, I need to get back to my whale blubber and cod dinner with Hilmar. The limousine is waiting, and since we're making SO much money off of you "golden geese", I think I'll just burn some of your money just to **** you off, because that's what non-existent microtransactions are for.

Astenion
Gallente
Spiritus Draconis
Posted - 2011.07.26 21:35:00 - [58]
 

Originally by: Garreth Vlox
and you always ignore the fact that with anything less than a top of the line video card CQ makes the game glitchy and damn near unplayable.


I have a dual core, 3 GHz machine with 3 gigs of RAM and a GeForce 460 video card...hardly what I would call "top of the line". The system is nearly 5 years old and I bought the video card for 150 euros. CQ loads and plays flawlessly. If you're adamant about playing with an abacus, then that's your business. I personally like better graphics in my video games. If you can't afford a better system (you can get a blazing fast one for about 6-700 euros these days), either:

A. Drink less alcohol

B. Smoke less pot

C. Get a job

D. All of the above

It's not CCP's fault your machine is subpar. In fact, out of all my games, Eve is the one that uses the least amount of resources. I can play Crysis and Crysis 2 with zero problems on a 5 year old machine, and you're telling me Incarna is a system hog? Don't make everyone else suffer and hold back the game's progress because you're too cheap to upgrade your 10 year old Radeon.

Simplus Massive
Posted - 2011.07.26 21:58:00 - [59]
 

Probably Rabies.

Narisa Bithon
Caldari
The Motley Crew Reborn
Posted - 2011.07.26 22:35:00 - [60]
 

Originally by: Astenion
either:

A. Drink less alcohol - i dont go out much at all these days cant afford to

B. Smoke less pot - i quit smoking almost 4 years ago

C. Get a job - i live in ireland we have no jobs anymore, blame asian slave made imported produce & foolish bank managers/bond holders/politicians for that.

D. All of the above


It's not CCP's fault your machine is subpar. In fact, out of all my games, Eve is the one that uses the least amount of resources. I can play Crysis and Crysis 2 with zero problems on a 5 year old machine, and you're telling me Incarna is a system hog? Don't make everyone else suffer and hold back the game's progress because you're too cheap to upgrade your 10 year old Radeon.



will you buy me a new gcard please?


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