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blarghh
Posted - 2011.08.04 22:53:00 - [91]
 

+1

Mulm
Minmatar
Burning Napalm
Northern Coalition.
Posted - 2011.08.05 05:49:00 - [92]
 

So terrible.

Please unfix control key.

Lady Spank
Amarr
In Praise Of Shadows
Posted - 2011.08.05 06:36:00 - [93]
 

Originally by: Mulm
So terrible.

Please unfix control key.


Originally by: Lady Spank
CCP Veritas has addressed a five page thread concerning this issue (Source)

Originally by: CCP Veritas
Good news folks, the right guy to fix the problem is back from vacation and we're aiming to have this fixed in a client update on Tuesday.



Just to bring this update to the new page since it's stuck on the bottom of the last one.

Dawnmist
Posted - 2011.08.07 00:58:00 - [94]
 

+1

Valor D'eglise
Gallente
Red Cross Of Gallente Federation
Posted - 2011.08.08 15:52:00 - [95]
 

Pachlogs for tomorrow's update shows that this will be history by tomorrow after DT.
...hopefully.

Lady Spank
Amarr
In Praise Of Shadows
Posted - 2011.08.08 23:08:00 - [96]
 

Originally by: Valor D'eglise
Pachlogs for tomorrow's update shows that this will be history by tomorrow after DT.
...hopefully.


Well... we will see. It doesn't sound like it truly returns previous functionality but the patch note explanation is in the usually obscure CCP syntax.

Fingers crossed though and even a step in the right direction is a start Wink

Kolya Medz
Gallente
PyroStorm Enforcers
STR8NGE BREW
Posted - 2011.08.08 23:53:00 - [97]
 

Supported

Lanu
0utbreak
Outbreak.
Posted - 2011.08.09 15:00:00 - [98]
 

Very annoying please fix!

Uncle henk
Posted - 2011.08.09 15:01:00 - [99]
 

Please fix this.

Myrkinia
Posted - 2011.08.09 15:03:00 - [100]
 

Requesting fix!

Anarchistia
Posted - 2011.08.09 15:03:00 - [101]
 

This was supposed to be fixed soonish right? Any eta?

Addaxia
Posted - 2011.08.09 15:04:00 - [102]
 

+1

Thiev Terminator
Posted - 2011.08.09 15:04:00 - [103]
 

+1

Morgenster
Posted - 2011.08.09 15:05:00 - [104]
 

+2?

Aqualonda
Minmatar
Narabedla
Posted - 2011.08.09 17:37:00 - [105]
 

Supported.

Valor D'eglise
Gallente
Red Cross Of Gallente Federation
Posted - 2011.08.09 18:31:00 - [106]
 

Old behavior is back.
God, so relieved. Was about time!

Grey Stormshadow
Starwreck Industries
Posted - 2011.08.09 21:47:00 - [107]
 


Morar Santee
Posted - 2011.08.09 23:30:00 - [108]
 

For the longest time I thought this was a bug.

If it is seriously intended... I have no words.

Morar Santee
Posted - 2011.08.09 23:32:00 - [109]
 

Originally by: Valor D'eglise
Old behavior is back.
God, so relieved. Was about time!


No, it is not back. Pressing ctrl will still lock up **** at random if your overview is the active window. Without LMB. This is bad and counterproductive in 100% of the situations in which you actually want to lock something. And in 100% of the situations when you don't want to lock something, too, obviously.

Crystal Liche
Posted - 2011.08.10 00:17:00 - [110]
 

Edited by: Crystal Liche on 10/08/2011 00:17:40
Originally by: Morar Santee
Originally by: Valor D'eglise
Old behavior is back.
God, so relieved. Was about time!


No, it is not back. Pressing ctrl will still lock up **** at random if your overview is the active window. Without LMB. This is bad and counterproductive in 100% of the situations in which you actually want to lock something. And in 100% of the situations when you don't want to lock something, too, obviously.


Umm, if your overview is active and you have an object highlighted control is SUPPOSED to do that Shocked

Seems to work awesome now.

Morar Santee
Posted - 2011.08.10 01:46:00 - [111]
 

Originally by: Crystal Liche
Edited by: Crystal Liche on 10/08/2011 00:17:40
Originally by: Morar Santee
Originally by: Valor D'eglise
Old behavior is back.
God, so relieved. Was about time!


No, it is not back. Pressing ctrl will still lock up **** at random if your overview is the active window. Without LMB. This is bad and counterproductive in 100% of the situations in which you actually want to lock something. And in 100% of the situations when you don't want to lock something, too, obviously.


Umm, if your overview is active and you have an object highlighted control is SUPPOSED to do that Shocked

Seems to work awesome now.


That's the point, it's NOT supposed to lock unless you press CTRL + LMB. It's completely ******ed to get a lock by pressing CTRL when your overview is the active window. If I'm waiting at a gate, someone jumps in and I press CTRL waiting for him to de-cloak, I now automatically get a lock on **** knows what if my overview is active window. Why? I don't know. Do you? Does it make sense in any way to get a lock on WHATEVER the **** is highlighted in my overview just because I press a button I have to press to lock something else?

MNagy
Posted - 2011.08.10 02:45:00 - [112]
 

My target got away.

I clicked ctrl and also locked onto a gate.

Since I ran the scrammers hot, and the 'gate' was the first to lock on- the scrammers wanted to scram the jump gate.

Thus - the target got away.

I hate that ctrl key issue.

M.

Laechyd Eldgorn
Caldari
draketrain
Posted - 2011.08.10 06:17:00 - [113]
 

fix this ****ing key

fire dust staff

fire station staff

hire ONE real programmer to fix ctrl key

Lady Spank
Amarr
In Praise Of Shadows

Posted - 2011.08.10 12:44:00 - [114]
 

Patch changed downstroke behaviour to upstroke.

This is not a fix.

Can we have a real fix on this please.

Wile EC
Posted - 2011.08.10 15:05:00 - [115]
 

Originally by: Lady Spank
Patch changed downstroke behaviour to upstroke.

This is not a fix.

Can we have a real fix on this please.



That is the real fix, where did you learn to program?

Frank Truck
Posted - 2011.08.10 15:09:00 - [116]
 

Originally by: Morar Santee
Originally by: Crystal Liche
Edited by: Crystal Liche on 10/08/2011 00:17:40
Originally by: Morar Santee
Originally by: Valor D'eglise
Old behavior is back.
God, so relieved. Was about time!


No, it is not back. Pressing ctrl will still lock up **** at random if your overview is the active window. Without LMB. This is bad and counterproductive in 100% of the situations in which you actually want to lock something. And in 100% of the situations when you don't want to lock something, too, obviously.


Umm, if your overview is active and you have an object highlighted control is SUPPOSED to do that Shocked

Seems to work awesome now.


That's the point, it's NOT supposed to lock unless you press CTRL + LMB. It's completely ******ed to get a lock by pressing CTRL when your overview is the active window. If I'm waiting at a gate, someone jumps in and I press CTRL waiting for him to de-cloak, I now automatically get a lock on **** knows what if my overview is active window. Why? I don't know. Do you? Does it make sense in any way to get a lock on WHATEVER the **** is highlighted in my overview just because I press a button I have to press to lock something else?


Actually it is supposed to lock if overview has focus, it has been that was for years, you din't notice this?

Maybe you should undock.

Grey Stormshadow
Starwreck Industries
Posted - 2011.08.10 19:47:00 - [117]
 

Edited by: Grey Stormshadow on 10/08/2011 19:51:20
Quote:

-stuff-
No, it is not back. Pressing ctrl will still lock up **** at random if your overview is the active window. Without LMB.
-stuff-
Umm, if your overview is active and you have an object highlighted control is SUPPOSED to do that Shocked
-stuff-
Seems to work awesome now.
-stuff-
That's the point, it's NOT supposed to lock unless you press CTRL + LMB. It's completely ******ed to get a lock by pressing CTRL when your overview is the active window.
-stuff-
Does it make sense in any way to get a lock on WHATEVER the **** is highlighted in my overview just because I press a button I have to press to lock something else?
-stuff-
Actually it is supposed to lock if overview has focus, it has been that was for years, you din't notice this?
-stuff-



Well tbh sending shortcut actions to item which is active in focused overview IS rather NEW feature. It has not been like this for years. It has been like this since we were given ability to configure shortcut keys.

I am really hoping for esc menu option where you could disable "send shortcut actions to preselected overview item" feature. Disabling it permanently would not be solution, because another part of community wants the feature. That is why it was implemented in 1st place. However it should have been optional.

...so lets hope for "option" as disabling this feature is fix for some, but others still want to have it.

Aramis Rosicrux
Gallente
Ordo Rosa Crux Templaris

Posted - 2011.08.10 19:57:00 - [118]
 

Edited by: Aramis Rosicrux on 10/08/2011 19:59:18
Lady Spank is right! The fix was no fix!!

CCP, this decision was a move away from dependable user interface, towards less user control that can lead to a dangerous result.

Who thought we needed the function of the Control key to be changed?

Please return the correct, perfect and expected behavior to the Control key!

Thank you,

Aramis Rosicrux

Morar Santee
Posted - 2011.08.10 20:44:00 - [119]
 

Originally by: Grey Stormshadow
Edited by: Grey Stormshadow on 10/08/2011 19:51:20
Quote:

-stuff-
No, it is not back. Pressing ctrl will still lock up **** at random if your overview is the active window. Without LMB.
-stuff-
Umm, if your overview is active and you have an object highlighted control is SUPPOSED to do that Shocked
-stuff-
Seems to work awesome now.
-stuff-
That's the point, it's NOT supposed to lock unless you press CTRL + LMB. It's completely ******ed to get a lock by pressing CTRL when your overview is the active window.
-stuff-
Does it make sense in any way to get a lock on WHATEVER the **** is highlighted in my overview just because I press a button I have to press to lock something else?
-stuff-
Actually it is supposed to lock if overview has focus, it has been that was for years, you din't notice this?
-stuff-



Well tbh sending shortcut actions to item which is active in focused overview IS rather NEW feature. It has not been like this for years. It has been like this since we were given ability to configure shortcut keys.

I am really hoping for esc menu option where you could disable "send shortcut actions to preselected overview item" feature. Disabling it permanently would not be solution, because another part of community wants the feature. That is why it was implemented in 1st place. However it should have been optional.

...so lets hope for "option" as disabling this feature is fix for some, but others still want to have it.


Thank you. By now I completely expect CCP to **** up completely arbitrarily and not know two ****s about their own game. But when you get these unqualified comments from community members, too, you're starting to lose hope.
Not that I really expect your clarification to make any difference whatsoever. More comments from pros in 3..2..1..

Eizon Amarr
Posted - 2011.08.16 19:27:00 - [120]
 

Supported, generally. I like the new more customisable hotkeys, but the behavior of the modifier keys right now is borked as ****.

In addition to the problems Ms Spank outlined in the OP, trying to multibox across multiple screens is a royal pain in the arse. Control will not work to lock a target if that window does not already have focus, so I'm having to tediously click on the client to gain focus and then lock something then vice versa when I'm doing something on the other client, annoying and time wasting. Didn't take me long to unbind alt either.

Definately something for the BFF team to look at again in more depth.


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