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Kronus Heilgar
Dark Orbit Media
Posted - 2011.07.23 21:48:00 - [1]
 

Edited by: Kronus Heilgar on 08/09/2011 07:29:16
Ladies and gentlemen, capsuleers of New Eden, it is my pleasure to unveil my grand project. Allow me to introduce you to:

EVE Central Intelligence
www.eve-intel.com


With this system, recruiters can cut their research time in half. We leave the era of undercover alts and enter the era of technology. But what exactly is E.C.I., you might ask? Allow me to explain:

Arrow Using massive databases and a vast multitude of information gathering applications, we here at ECI have gathered over 3.9 MILLION valid and current characterIDs. This number continues to grow as more information is gathered.

Arrow Using the EVE API, the entire database of characters is updated on a daily basis. This gives us the most up-to-date information on each character

Arrow Now that we have data on so many characters, we can do reverse searching. Want a list of the 7181 members of Goonswarm Federation? I can tell you 6806 of them. Test Alliance, with 4539 members? I can tell you 4249 of them. You can find the members of any corp or alliance, with the click of a button.

Arrow Each character, corporation, and alliance has a "voting/flagging" system, where users can upvote or downvote that entity on various attributes. If you're recruiting, and you look up the candidate on ECI and see that he has 143 "corp loyalty" downovotes, maybe you don't want him after all

Arrow Searching is rather slow (unless you use the "Exact Search), as there are 3.7 million characters to go through. So please, be patient.


To prevent screen scraping and account sub-contracting, there are several safeguards in place:

Arrow Distinct IP's per week: each account may log in from 5 different IP addresses within a 7-day window; this is to prevent sharing of a single account within entire alliances
Arrow Searches per hour: each account may run up to 20 searches in a 1-hour window; this is to prevent screen-scraping applications and subcontracting
Arrow Info sheet views per hour: each account may view up to 40 character/corp/alliance info sheets per hour, also to prevent screen-scraping and subcontracting

The specific values of the above safeguards will be fine-tuned as service continues.


Sign up for an account today, and experience the power of E.C.I.!

Kronus Heilgar
Dark Orbit Media
Posted - 2011.07.23 21:51:00 - [2]
 

Edited by: Kronus Heilgar on 08/09/2011 07:29:34


Kronus Heilgar
Dark Orbit Media
Posted - 2011.07.23 22:56:00 - [3]
 

reserved post

Sylva d
Posted - 2011.07.23 22:59:00 - [4]
 

there are only 300k acounts, so a max of 900k character IDs... what?

Selene D'Celeste
Caldari
The D'Celeste Trading Company
ISK Six
Posted - 2011.07.23 23:03:00 - [5]
 

Edited by: Selene D''Celeste on 25/07/2011 22:57:21
Removing my sarcastic humor since I don't want it to be misinterpreted as not liking this product, it's very good. You can use eve-search to see my failed attempts at humor if you wish!

Kronus Heilgar
Dark Orbit Media
Posted - 2011.07.23 23:04:00 - [6]
 

Edited by: Kronus Heilgar on 23/07/2011 23:09:00
There are 300,000 ACTIVE accounts. The database also contains all characters on INACTIVE accounts (but not characters that have been deleted)

Also, a bit of demonstration. Selene D'Celeste, the other 3 members of your corp are:
- Devon D'Celeste
- Monetary Sentinel
- Vallyn D'Celeste

nickator
Posted - 2011.07.23 23:40:00 - [7]
 

So at the very minimum there are about one million accounts with three characters apiece that no longer sub?

Kronus Heilgar
Dark Orbit Media
Posted - 2011.07.23 23:57:00 - [8]
 

Approximately, yes. Remember that this includes all accounts over the entire history of EVE, all 8 years worth.

Another demo; nickator, 72 of the 80 members in your corp are:

- Alaren Planeswalker
- freelancerAlpha 1
- Mathias II
- Alcari
- Galandrius Malkin
- Maxtheminer
- ALM9
- Grimbb
- Mike639
- Apollo Elliot
- grimpp
- Mikey PooNanny
- Ard Tirana
- groover390
- MissingLInk56
- bigbh
- hebborg
- Morshon
- BKnight3
- Hetland Rifter
- nickator
- Cannabinoid
- HEWEIN BEAUX
- o0steveo0o
- Caroline90
- inm
- Paua
- ccborg
- Iverelo
- Pius Fabrica
- ChaplainLemartes
- Jared Wheeler
- Rattuluss
- Cheratone Kai
- jawa rari
- RED DOGG
- darth Vito
- Jhoh
- Scylan
- Dea Amore
- Joel Arath
- Skull Fokker
- Derkendan
- Kacophony
- Snarflax
- Devilmonkey
- Kato Steel
- SoloSulu
- Devlone
- Keka Ori
- Sovrag
- Dr Darky
- Kyoteman
- spartan885
- Dr Hoenheim
- Lady Allessa
- Velenti
- Duma Valentine
- Lakeperch
- Vidi Angelus
- Elhanna
- Leperkahan
- Winry Rokkuberu
- EnvynLust
- LordAries
- Zetoh
- Erland Merich
- Lotat
- Zombiee Monkey
- FMUI Scientists
- Marvthemarsh
- zoomes


I could also list 846 of the 1049 members in your alliance, but that might take too much space.


Johnathan Roark
Caldari
The Graduates
Morsus Mihi
Posted - 2011.07.24 00:20:00 - [9]
 

Edited by: Johnathan Roark on 24/07/2011 00:20:46
Cool, but the only use I can see for it is figuring out the members of a corporation for an empire war.

Also, I'm guessing ccp really likes you with your 3.7 million calls. I'm guessing your also scraping forums and killboards for characterIDs.

Kronus Heilgar
Dark Orbit Media
Posted - 2011.07.24 00:27:00 - [10]
 

Yes, the main purpose of it as it stands is to find the members of a given corporation without having to sneak around spying in their home systems or infiltrating their corp.

Future development is planned to introduce integrated kill stats, as well as other goodies. Now that the basis is here, it's easy to add on. Suggestions for improvements are welcome.

CCP doesn't mind my calls (I've talked to them about it) because they generate no errors, they're all valid.

Selene D'Celeste
Caldari
The D'Celeste Trading Company
ISK Six
Posted - 2011.07.24 00:30:00 - [11]
 

Originally by: Kronus Heilgar
Edited by: Kronus Heilgar on 23/07/2011 23:09:00
There are 300,000 ACTIVE accounts. The database also contains all characters on INACTIVE accounts (but not characters that have been deleted)

Also, a bit of demonstration. Selene D'Celeste, the other 3 members of your corp are:
- Devon D'Celeste
- Monetary Sentinel
- Vallyn D'Celeste


Very nice.

Also no offense meant, it was simply too good of a post to pass up. Well done on the data mining.

Genji Ancient
Posted - 2011.07.24 02:46:00 - [12]
 

Am I able to see what other characters are on someone's account based on their character name?

Kronus Heilgar
Dark Orbit Media
Posted - 2011.07.24 02:53:00 - [13]
 

No, it does not show which characters are on the same account. A limited API key is required for that.

Genji Ancient
Posted - 2011.07.24 03:07:00 - [14]
 

What about characters from the same IP address?

Kronus Heilgar
Dark Orbit Media
Posted - 2011.07.24 03:15:00 - [15]
 

To do that you would need to know which IP address users log in to the game from? Unfortunately, this is not data that is accessible from the API ;)

My application does track your IP when you log into EVE Central Intelligence, but those accounts are not in any way correlated to in-game accounts.

Desmont McCallock
Posted - 2011.07.24 09:06:00 - [16]
 

Guys, this is no mystery. Kronus managed to collected all that info by using the CharacterInfo call of the API.
And this reminded me of the time we had API issues.

P.S: I'm not accusing, as I can't prove anything.

spiked amarr
Hysera.
Posted - 2011.07.24 09:23:00 - [17]
 

I feel you should add Agency to your name.

Just saying.

Callean Drevus
Caldari
Icosahedron Crafts and Shipping
Silent Infinity
Posted - 2011.07.24 10:50:00 - [18]
 

Indeed, Agency would be needed to make it completely cool :)

Besides that, it's funny, and it provides functionality I have missed a bit in the EVE interface, but I will never pay 15M per week for this.

The point is, when it matters, this information is available, if I'm in a war, my enemies are red, there is no need to know their names, just that I have to kill them. Still, there might be others whom will use this much more. I'll wish you luck with your endeavours.

Kronus Heilgar
Dark Orbit Media
Posted - 2011.07.24 16:16:00 - [19]
 

Good morning everyone!

@Desmont: I use the CharacterInfo call to keep all the chars in the database updated. I'm not sure how you would use it to find characters in the first place, because characterIDs are a 64 bit value (18 quintillion possibilities?) and pretty sure the API would shut you down with that many error calls...

@Spiked: I will petition CCP to add "Agency" to the corp name

@Callean: I understand your point, as as I mentioned the price will change depending on user feedback. I feel that you might find this tool more useful once I've upgraded it to include further enhancements; I'm actually looking at partnering with someone who does recruitment background checks to integrate that functionality into the system, which could be very useful.

Kaverus
Posted - 2011.07.24 16:22:00 - [20]
 

this is pretty neat, free bump

wish you could tell me who our spies are in my alliance, were at war with moris mehi and brick and razor alliance.

but i figure that would be pretty hard (considering they are taking a butt kickin from our whole alliance of cascade imminent)

anyways good job !!

Kronus Heilgar
Dark Orbit Media
Posted - 2011.07.24 16:48:00 - [21]
 

I wish I could find your spies for you too ;)

If anyone has ideas on improvements or additions to the service (that are reasonable/possible to implement), please post them here!

I am also currently in-game if anyone has questions and would like to convo me.

Selene D'Celeste
Caldari
The D'Celeste Trading Company
ISK Six
Posted - 2011.07.24 17:02:00 - [22]
 

Actually, having tried this out now, I must say that aside from original content (does anyone else provide this?) you've presented a clean and simple interface. Very nice work indeed. I enjoy having my skepticism proved wrong once in a while =D

Kronus Heilgar
Dark Orbit Media
Posted - 2011.07.24 17:15:00 - [23]
 

Edited by: Kronus Heilgar on 24/07/2011 17:17:24
Thank you. I tried to keep the interface as simple and straight-forward as possible. To be honest, that was the easy part, and the frontend took me only a couple weeks to code. The real bastard was the backend; people think it's all easy, just a bunch of screenscraping apps with a simple API update once in a while. But the amount of code that's running at any given time is phenomenal, and I would like to point out for the bitter disbelievers out there that the characters are discovered through much more elegant ways than simple screen scraping or, as one guy mentioned, brute-forcing the CharacterInfo API. Partnerships and information sharing are the real key, as well as the "Submit Characters" function I built in where users can submit character names and receive account credit for ones that aren't already in the database.

Just FYI everyone, we're up to 40 accounts created, 181 searches run, and 282 info sheets viewed within 16 hours of launch.

EDIT: also, no, I don't think anyone else provides this. Some people build a small database for recruitment background checks, but I think that's about it. If I'm wrong, or anyone's interested in a service integration or an information sharing partnership, just let me know.

Kronus Heilgar
Dark Orbit Media
Posted - 2011.07.24 18:06:00 - [24]
 

NEW FEATURE



"Exact search". Clicking this button instead of the "Intel Search" button will only return results where the entity's name or ticker is exactly equivalent to the search text you have typed in. This provides a blazing-fast search function if you know exactly who you're looking for!

Cassia Haidrion
Posted - 2011.07.24 20:18:00 - [25]
 

haha thread less than 24 hours old and with 1400 hits. Must be nice, hanging around the frontpage on a Sunday ;)

Very nice work, I must say. Clean, easy to use; I fed it a list of about 30 characters I had hanging around and apparently 2 of them weren't in the database so I got some sexy free account time.

Think I might point this out to my alt's CEO...

Kronus Heilgar
Dark Orbit Media
Posted - 2011.07.25 20:17:00 - [26]
 

65 accounts, 321 searches, 533 info sheet views, 2307 alliances, 147245 corporations, 3706570 characters. Keep on rollin' baby.

Elise DarkStar
Posted - 2011.07.25 22:17:00 - [27]
 

This is actually pretty cool. I love how occasionally someone will create some neat tool for this game.

Great job and free bump.

kinky ho
Posted - 2011.07.25 22:42:00 - [28]
 

i have 4 accounts and 3 toons on this one who are the other 2; prove ur self......... also to quote we have over 3.4 million ACTIVE and valid toons, your current success rate unless simpally made up is of around 70% of the people in a corp / alliance so by that extrapolation i come to the conclusion in the form of an equation:

E.C.I = Bolocks / guesswork x random number generator / more guessing - 70.5% of lol to give you........... pritty much **** all usefull.

Kronus Heilgar
Dark Orbit Media
Posted - 2011.07.25 23:07:00 - [29]
 

Originally by: kinky ho
i have 4 accounts and 3 toons on this one who are the other 2; prove ur self......... also to quote we have over 3.4 million ACTIVE and valid toons, your current success rate unless simpally made up is of around 70% of the people in a corp / alliance so by that extrapolation i come to the conclusion in the form of an equation:

E.C.I = Bolocks / guesswork x random number generator / more guessing - 70.5% of lol to give you........... pritty much **** all usefull.


It's so saddening that even understandable grammar is such an uncommon trait among today's youth. For shame. But, I'll give it a shot at figuring out what you just said.

Which toons are on which account is something that can not be determined without the appropriate API key, and determining that is not the objective of E.C.I. or something that it claims to offer. I'm not sure who ever said that there are 3.4 million active toons; I stated that the ECI database has 3.7 million TOTAL toons, but that includes those on deactivated accounts. As explained in the first response to this thread, since there are approximately 300,000 active accounts (according to CCP) with max 3 toons each, then the total number of active toons can't exceed 900,000. So it is my conclusion that not only can you not write with any sense of coherence, you cannot perform basic arithmetic either. I fear that the next generation is screwed.

In the words of Mark Ruffalo in an excellent film I recently watched, "man, you don't like it doc, take a walk".

Humanoid 25368
Posted - 2011.07.26 05:55:00 - [30]
 

Edited by: Humanoid 25368 on 26/07/2011 05:56:32
I feel that as this gets more popular, some enterprising people may begin doing a bit of killboard scraping themselves, to get names for free time.

Originally by: Kronus Heilgar
So it is my conclusion that not only can you not write with any sense of coherence, you cannot perform basic arithmetic either.

lol @ that, and
Originally by: Kronus Heilgar
"man, you don't like it doc, take a walk"
The Last Castle, good movie.


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