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Jada Maroo
Posted - 2011.07.22 21:46:00 - [31]
 

Originally by: Nimrod Nemesis
Quote:
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,343768,00.html


Foot in mouth defense, followed by Faux news article.

Classic righty whack-job. I weep for your wasted intellect.


Laughing

I put that there because I knew you would only see that and totally ignore the FBI and CNN. Predictable left wing tool. LaughingLaughing

Nimrod Nemesis
Amarr
Royal Amarr Institute
Posted - 2011.07.22 21:49:00 - [32]
 

Edited by: Nimrod Nemesis on 22/07/2011 21:49:36
Originally by: Jada Maroo
Originally by: Nimrod Nemesis
Quote:
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,343768,00.html


Foot in mouth defense, followed by Faux news article.

Classic righty whack-job. I weep for your wasted intellect.


Laughing

I put that there because I knew you would only see that and totally ignore the FBI and CNN. Predictable left wing tool. LaughingLaughing


SO, decades-long terrorism campeigns from the right < three years of terroist activities from the left?

I fail to see a correlary stating the right is any less a threat to national security. But, if you're one of the champs who is pro-life, anti-evolution, and wants the 10 commandments in every courthouse in the country, I can certainly understand why you would think so. After all, they're on your side.

Jaci Johanna
Posted - 2011.07.22 21:52:00 - [33]
 

Originally by: Nimrod Nemesis


SO, decades-long terrorism campeigns from the right < three years of terroist activities from the left?


Quote:
*The sheer volume of their crimes (over 2,000 since 1979);
*The huge economic impact (losses of more than $110 million since 1979);


Drrr, hooked on phonics didn't work for you did it?

Nimrod Nemesis
Amarr
Royal Amarr Institute
Posted - 2011.07.22 21:56:00 - [34]
 

Edited by: Nimrod Nemesis on 22/07/2011 21:56:47
The OK City building alone cost more that 110m, so uh.. where'd those bull**** numbers come from?

Estephania
Independent Political Analysts
Posted - 2011.07.22 21:57:00 - [35]
 

Originally by: Nimrod Nemesis
Edited by: Nimrod Nemesis on 22/07/2011 21:49:36
Originally by: Jada Maroo
Originally by: Nimrod Nemesis
Quote:
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,343768,00.html


Foot in mouth defense, followed by Faux news article.

Classic righty whack-job. I weep for your wasted intellect.


Laughing

I put that there because I knew you would only see that and totally ignore the FBI and CNN. Predictable left wing tool. LaughingLaughing


SO, decades-long terrorism campeigns from the right < three years of terroist activities from the left?

I fail to see a correlary stating the right is any less a threat to national security. But, if you're one of the champs who is pro-life, anti-evolution, and wants the 10 commandments in every courthouse in the country, I can certainly understand why you would think so. After all, they're on your side.


The far right is responsible for quite a lot of nasty things, but the right never supported enemies of the state, something the left does quite often. Just because of that the right is less threat to NATIONAL security. Doesn't mean that far right extremists should not be hunted down, they are just less of a threat than far left and their jihadist friends.

Nimrod Nemesis
Amarr
Royal Amarr Institute
Posted - 2011.07.22 22:02:00 - [36]
 

Edited by: Nimrod Nemesis on 22/07/2011 22:03:46
Originally by: Estephania
The far right is responsible for quite a lot of nasty things, but the right never supported enemies of the state, something the left does quite often. Just because of that the right is less threat to NATIONAL security. Doesn't mean that far right extremists should not be hunted down, they are just less of a threat than far left and their jihadist friends.


I don't condone either myself, but I think you allow the right too much leeway. Pat Robertson has publicly advocated violence against left interests and individuals in the past as have many far right political figures, even if they claim to be doing so "metaphorically," (see Palin's crazed fan shooting AZ rep).

The only thing that seperates PITA's militants from the Neo-****s and Christian extremeists is their targets. Both are ideologically defunct, morally bankrupt, and deserve to be executed in a public place.

Omara Otawan
Posted - 2011.07.22 22:07:00 - [37]
 

Edited by: Omara Otawan on 22/07/2011 22:08:28
Originally by: Jaci Johanna

Quote:
*The sheer volume of their crimes (over 2,000 since 1979);
*The huge economic impact (losses of more than $110 million since 1979);




Wow, a whole $110 million in 30 years?

That surely makes the Oklahoma bombings with 165 killed, over 700 injured and $15 million just in direct bomb damage pale in comparison. Rolling Eyes

I'd wager that counting indirect damage that single attack cost way over $110 million.

Why do I get the feeling that these days every hoodrat tagging "**** the system" on a phone booth gets labeled as terrorism?

DemetRYS
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Posted - 2011.07.22 22:15:00 - [38]
 

Originally by: Nimrod Nemesis

The only thing that seperates PITA's militants from the Neo-****s and Christian extremeists is their targets. Both are ideologically defunct, morally bankrupt, and deserve to be executed in a public place.


+1

Jada Maroo
Posted - 2011.07.22 22:21:00 - [39]
 

Edited by: Jada Maroo on 22/07/2011 22:21:10
Originally by: Omara Otawan


Wow, a whole $110 million in 30 years?

That surely makes the Oklahoma bombings with 165 killed, over 700 injured and $15 million just in direct bomb damage pale in comparison. Rolling Eyes

I'd wager that counting indirect damage that single attack cost way over $110 million.




One isolated terrorist act worth 300m is still only one incident. And if the perpetrators are caught, the threat is likely over.

2000 terrorists acts related by group affiliation, even if they only cause 110m of damage by comparison, is an organized terrorist movement and a active threat to public safety and private property.

And the FBI has finite resources. I doubt they waste their time investigating tagged phoneboothes. Razz

Slade Trillgon
Endless Possibilities Inc.
Posted - 2011.07.22 22:23:00 - [40]
 

Originally by: Jada Maroo
Edited by: Jada Maroo on 22/07/2011 22:21:10
Originally by: Omara Otawan


Wow, a whole $110 million in 30 years?

That surely makes the Oklahoma bombings with 165 killed, over 700 injured and $15 million just in direct bomb damage pale in comparison. Rolling Eyes

I'd wager that counting indirect damage that single attack cost way over $110 million.




One isolated terrorist act worth 300m is still only one incident. And if the perpetrators are caught, the threat is likely over.

2000 terrorists acts related by group affiliation, even if they only cause 110m of damage by comparison, is an organized terrorist movement and a active threat to public safety and private property.

And the FBI has finite resources. I doubt they waste their time investigating tagged phoneboothes. Razz


How many deaths in those 2000 acts of terrorism?


Slade

dexington
Caldari
Baconoration
Posted - 2011.07.22 22:24:00 - [41]
 

Originally by: stoicfaux
The point is that it could be home grown terrorism. If you automatically jump to "Muslims!", you might be blinding yourself to other threats.


Being muslim has nothing to do with nationality, norwegians can be part of islam just as well as arabs. It's not impossible it's both muslims and terrorists born and raised in norway.

Jada Maroo
Posted - 2011.07.22 22:26:00 - [42]
 

Originally by: Nimrod Nemesis
(see Palin's crazed fan shooting AZ rep).



Wow, you are just ****ing ignorant of all fact aren't you?

Jared Loughner had a copy of the Communist manifesto and his friends said he would well up in rage at the very mention of George W Bush.

Sounds a lot like you actually. Laughing

Nimrod Nemesis
Amarr
Royal Amarr Institute
Posted - 2011.07.22 22:26:00 - [43]
 

Edited by: Nimrod Nemesis on 22/07/2011 22:27:56
Originally by: dexington
Originally by: stoicfaux
The point is that it could be home grown terrorism. If you automatically jump to "Muslims!", you might be blinding yourself to other threats.


Being muslim has nothing to do with nationality, norwegians can be part of islam just as well as arabs. It's not impossible it's both muslims and terrorists born and raised in norway.


Did you make his point intentionally?

Originally by: Jada Maroo
Originally by: Nimrod Nemesis
(see Palin's crazed fan shooting AZ rep).



Wow, you are just ****ing ignorant of all fact aren't you?

Jared Loughner had a copy of the Communist manifesto and his friends said he would well up in rage at the very mention of George W Bush.

Sounds a lot like you actually. Laughing


I worked for the Bush administation aswell, he was an idiot, but not a bad man. I wouldn't rage at him so much as present him with free education, given the chance.

And i'm a socialist, not a communist. <3

dexington
Caldari
Baconoration
Posted - 2011.07.22 22:32:00 - [44]
 

Originally by: Nimrod Nemesis
Did you make his point intentionally?


As i understood his post, he said that muslims and home grown terrorists are not the same, which is not true by default.

Nimrod Nemesis
Amarr
Royal Amarr Institute
Posted - 2011.07.22 22:33:00 - [45]
 

Originally by: dexington
Originally by: Nimrod Nemesis
Did you make his point intentionally?


As i understood his post, he said that muslims and home grown terrorists are not the same, which is not true by default.


I placed more emphasis on the second sentence, I guess.

Jada Maroo
Posted - 2011.07.22 22:35:00 - [46]
 

Originally by: Slade Trillgon
[

How many deaths in those 2000 acts of terrorism?




I've never read anything about related deaths, but any time you set fire to a building you risk the lives of the first responders.

If you go by number of deaths, Islamic terror comes out on top for the United States. If you go by sheer volume of attacks, it's radical leftists.

But you also have to look at the goals. The goal of an Islamic terrorist is to maximize body count. The goal of an ELF/ALF member is usually the destruction of property. Both are very successful at what they intend to do. Obviously radicalized Muslims are a greater threat to your personal safety, but that doesn't mean you ignore the threat posed by the others.

Omara Otawan
Posted - 2011.07.22 22:39:00 - [47]
 

Originally by: Jada Maroo
Obviously radicalized Muslims are a greater threat to your personal safety, but that doesn't mean you ignore the threat posed by the others.


Statistically, being struck by lightning is a far bigger threat to my personal safety than both, and given such an event may set my clothes on fire to my property as well.

Nimrod Nemesis
Amarr
Royal Amarr Institute
Posted - 2011.07.22 22:39:00 - [48]
 

Edited by: Nimrod Nemesis on 22/07/2011 22:39:49
Originally by: Jada Maroo
Originally by: Slade Trillgon
[

How many deaths in those 2000 acts of terrorism?




I've never read anything about related deaths, but any time you set fire to a building you risk the lives of the first responders.

If you go by number of deaths, Islamic terror comes out on top for the United States. If you go by sheer volume of attacks, it's radical leftists.

But you also have to look at the goals. The goal of an Islamic terrorist is to maximize body count. The goal of an ELF/ALF member is usually the destruction of property. Both are very successful at what they intend to do. Obviously radicalized Muslims are a greater threat to your personal safety, but that doesn't mean you ignore the threat posed by the others.


Good defleciton to forign muslims when we're specifically debating domestic terrorism. Also, exellent re-direct to your NUMBER OF ATTACKS stat which is in no way relevent to the question. Topping it all off with the islam scare tactics... icing on the cake.

10/10

Jada Maroo
Posted - 2011.07.22 22:42:00 - [49]
 

Edited by: Jada Maroo on 22/07/2011 22:42:20
Originally by: Omara Otawan

Statistically, being struck by lightning is a far bigger threat to my personal safety than both, and given such an event may set my clothes on fire to my property as well.


LaughingLaughing

You know, I thought about qualifying that statement because I knew someone would say exactly that. I'm talking about the realm of terrorist acts, obviously, but yes, both are unlikely to happen to you.

Nimrod Nemesis
Amarr
Royal Amarr Institute
Posted - 2011.07.22 22:47:00 - [50]
 

Originally by: Jada Maroo
Edited by: Jada Maroo on 22/07/2011 22:42:20
Originally by: Omara Otawan

Statistically, being struck by lightning is a far bigger threat to my personal safety than both, and given such an event may set my clothes on fire to my property as well.


LaughingLaughing

You know, I thought about qualifying that statement because I knew someone would say exactly that. I'm talking about the realm of terrorist acts, obviously, but yes, both are unlikely to happen to you.


But but.. the ralicalized boogey-muslim... he's in my closet!

Omara Otawan
Posted - 2011.07.22 22:54:00 - [51]
 

Edited by: Omara Otawan on 22/07/2011 22:55:55
Originally by: Jada Maroo

You know, I thought about qualifying that statement because I knew someone would say exactly that. I'm talking about the realm of terrorist acts, obviously, but yes, both are unlikely to happen to you.


The problem I really have with all that is the fact that real threats to my property and safety, i.e. being mugged/stabbed/shot just two blocks from home, are taking a backseat while terrorism, which does not concern me all that much, is blown way out of proportion.

Especially the so-called eco-terrorism, which if we are honest for a seconds is in the large majority of cases just simple vandalism.

dexington
Caldari
Baconoration
Posted - 2011.07.22 23:08:00 - [52]
 

Originally by: Omara Otawan
Especially the so-called eco-terrorism, which if we are honest for a seconds is in the large majority of cases just simple vandalism.


terrorism don't mean what it used to, now terrorism is just a label used to remove the basic laws that protect the freedom of most people in the western world.

Chepe Nolon
Gallente
Inquest
Posted - 2011.07.22 23:24:00 - [53]
 

To put this topic dead:

http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100002651290254

This is the guy. His Christian, Conservative, likes MMO and FPS games (WOW and BF) and you could pick on every interest he has and blame the group. He's also part of the Freemasons:

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/281538_103736456391397_100002651290254_19949_3078284_n.jpg (yes, the same guy).

Muslim terrorist... naaaahh


Takseen
Posted - 2011.07.22 23:28:00 - [54]
 

Originally by: Herr Wilkus



And you won't be alone. When the USA throws out Obama in 2012, the military campaign against violent Muslim groups will once again be a priority.


Obama : Found and killed Osama Bin Laden.
Bush : Wandered off into Iraq and completely forgot about Osama.
Silly wingnut.

Iggy Stooge
Gallente
Federal Navy Academy
Posted - 2011.07.22 23:31:00 - [55]
 

There is no evidence to support any of the claims or assumptions made by the OP. Also, he is clearly a dangerously unstable individual, inciting religious hatred and violence. He strikes me as the type who may Go Postal someday, at which point we can all accuse him of being a Muslim terrorist. Unless of course he is a blond haired blue-eyed man, like the person responsible for the attacks in Oslo. Then we would just call him a Republican.

Jada Maroo
Posted - 2011.07.22 23:34:00 - [56]
 

Edited by: Jada Maroo on 22/07/2011 23:49:45
Originally by: Chepe Nolon


http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100002651290254




You know he kinda even looks like Anders from Dragon Age.

I imagine this Anders will get a significantly less severe sentence than I gave the video game one.


BTW, I missed this:

Originally by: Nimrod Nemesis


And i'm a socialist, not a communist. <3


Not at all surprised. You also implied that you are a federal worker, if I read you correctly. If so, mind telling me what department or agency?

Don't worry, I'm not going to look you up. I just want to know if it'll be a department that shuts down next month.

Benny Hill
Caldari
General Thrusters
Posted - 2011.07.22 23:54:00 - [57]
 

Originally by: Takseen
Originally by: Herr Wilkus



And you won't be alone. When the USA throws out Obama in 2012, the military campaign against violent Muslim groups will once again be a priority.


Obama : Found and killed Osama Bin Laden.
Bush : Wandered off into Iraq and completely forgot about Osama.
Silly wingnut.


Obama "found" Bin Laden using the information from interrogation tactics he so despised. He used the working relationship with Pakistan Bush created and operatives in Pakistan that Bush placed there. Obama used SEAL special forces whose level of training, equipment and personnel were vastly expanded by Bush.

Obama does like to remind everyone for years on end what he "inherited."

Omara Otawan
Posted - 2011.07.22 23:58:00 - [58]
 

Originally by: Benny Hill
working relationship with Pakistan Bush created


Not sure if you are serious here, but that is pretty much the funniest **** I've read all week.

laysha
Amarr
GONE RETARD BACK LATER
Posted - 2011.07.23 00:00:00 - [59]
 

This thread fails so bad.

Norwegian nationalist behind the bombing and shootings

Xenuchrist
STK Scientific
Rolling Thunder.
Posted - 2011.07.23 00:41:00 - [60]
 

Edited by: Xenuchrist on 23/07/2011 00:42:22
ITT american rightwing nutjob ****fest after norwegian rightwing nutjob massacres kids at summer camp.
(This so compares to "eco-terorrism")

/norwegian drunkard


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