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Wendat Huron
Stellar Solutions
Posted - 2011.07.26 04:02:00 - [61]
 

Originally by: Herzog Wolfhammer
Edited by: Herzog Wolfhammer on 25/07/2011 15:26:02
Let's see...

This was the the biggest story worldwide on Thursday (hey, nice try making the blue eyes "glow" for the effect. I don't think even Leni Reifenstahl would have tried that one).

And on Friday..

The push is to take the security state and turn it on EVERYBODY. But everybody deserves it, because everybody didn't care when it was just a small group of brown people getting the treatment.

I warned ya.


For the rest of you, when something like this happened in the USA, Oklahoma City to be exact, the person who did it was just as "made to order" and perfectly stereotypical of a "right winger". So from now on, if you live in Norway and say you don't like too much immigration or disagree with the labor party, you will be compared to and lumped in with this guy. Your media outlets in Norway along with the commentators (we call them media sock puppets in the US) are getting their "talking points" to compare everybody who disagrees with the Labor party with this guy.

This is right out of the Bill Clinton play book, by the way. You need only research the bombing of the Murrah Building and the effect - and in particular how it was used - to understand.




It's been done before, just after 9/11 a CNN photo of Bin Laden had strange luminations shooting out of the eyes upwards as to form what was no doubt meant to be seen as horns.

Estephania
Independent Political Analysts
Posted - 2011.07.26 05:08:00 - [62]
 

Originally by: Slade Trillgon

Man has been migrating/immigrating since the beginning. Most advancements in mankind’s history can be associated with the effects of migration/immigration.




What the hell are you talking about? What we see is not an immigration, it's migration. Immigration was when ppl from behind the iron curtain of the Soviet block made it to the West. When we are talking about millions, it's already migration. Migration of uneducated, fanatical, deeply religious population that has no respect for the rights of women, for democracy, for human rights. Have you heard about "honor killings", child marriage and all this in Western Europe. I will not talk about crime as criminals can be from any upbringing and I don't have any statistical data in that area, but there are places in Amsterdam, Brussels, Paris, London where even the police avoids entering.
If we are talking about migration, the last one happened about 1500 years ago, when the Roman Empire was crushed. You know what happened after that? The humankind was thrown back for nearly 1000 years in development, Do you want the history to repeat itself in out time?

Khors
El Barco Pirata
Posted - 2011.07.26 08:26:00 - [63]
 

Originally by: Estephania
Originally by: Slade Trillgon

Man has been migrating/immigrating since the beginning. Most advancements in mankind’s history can be associated with the effects of migration/immigration.




What the hell are you talking about? What we see is not an immigration, it's migration. Immigration was when ppl from behind the iron curtain of the Soviet block made it to the West. When we are talking about millions, it's already migration. Migration of uneducated, fanatical, deeply religious population that has no respect for the rights of women, for democracy, for human rights. Have you heard about "honor killings", child marriage and all this in Western Europe. I will not talk about crime as criminals can be from any upbringing and I don't have any statistical data in that area, but there are places in Amsterdam, Brussels, Paris, London where even the police avoids entering.
If we are talking about migration, the last one happened about 1500 years ago, when the Roman Empire was crushed. You know what happened after that? The humankind was thrown back for nearly 1000 years in development, Do you want the history to repeat itself in out time?


It's a good thing you are safe from all those bad neighborhoods down there in missisippi am I right?

Estephania
Independent Political Analysts
Posted - 2011.07.26 08:42:00 - [64]
 

Originally by: Khors
Originally by: Estephania
Originally by: Slade Trillgon

Man has been migrating/immigrating since the beginning. Most advancements in mankind’s history can be associated with the effects of migration/immigration.




What the hell are you talking about? What we see is not an immigration, it's migration. Immigration was when ppl from behind the iron curtain of the Soviet block made it to the West. When we are talking about millions, it's already migration. Migration of uneducated, fanatical, deeply religious population that has no respect for the rights of women, for democracy, for human rights. Have you heard about "honor killings", child marriage and all this in Western Europe. I will not talk about crime as criminals can be from any upbringing and I don't have any statistical data in that area, but there are places in Amsterdam, Brussels, Paris, London where even the police avoids entering.
If we are talking about migration, the last one happened about 1500 years ago, when the Roman Empire was crushed. You know what happened after that? The humankind was thrown back for nearly 1000 years in development, Do you want the history to repeat itself in out time?


It's a good thing you are safe from all those bad neighborhoods down there in missisippi am I right?


It's a good thing I'm safe, but I do not live even close to Mississippi. Btw, are you happy with London slowly turning into Lahore, I bet you are.

Zoroa Aulx-Gao
Koa Mai Hoku
Destiny Corrupted.
Posted - 2011.07.26 10:02:00 - [65]
 

Originally by: Mon 0cle Monocleres
A bomb goes off in Afghanistan every day.. if we always made a post about each one Whole of OOPE would be filled with it.

Yawn.


Difference being that one is a warzone and the other is not.

This situation is obviously more extraordinary regardless of other injustices that may be going on around the world.

Slade Trillgon
Endless Possibilities Inc.
Posted - 2011.07.26 10:57:00 - [66]
 

Edited by: Slade Trillgon on 26/07/2011 11:00:52

As for the terms describing practices of extremist Muslims, I know all about them, but I can assure you that I, an agnostic individual, am around individuals of the Muslim faith daily and have not a worry in the world. I feel sorry for all the scared little people out there.

Originally by: Estephania

What the hell are you talking about? What we see is not an immigration, it's migration. Immigration was when ppl from behind the iron curtain of the Soviet block made it to the West.


Actually, migrate is an umbrella term underwhich immigrate and emigrate fall under.

Originally by: Estephania
I don't have any statistical data in that area, but there are places in Amsterdam, Brussels, Paris, London in every country where even the police avoid entering.



Nothing new here please move along.

EDIT: Grammar and spelling


Slade

Super Whopper
I can Has Cheeseburger
Posted - 2011.07.26 13:14:00 - [67]
 

Gilad Atzmon explains very clearly why the massacre was carried out.

Defiant from dock, Breivik boasts more will die - The Guardian

As we see the Mossad aren't done yet with the Norwegian people.

Gordon Duff - Vietnam Marine Veteran - on Oslo and the real terrorists.

I hope the people of Normway don't lose sight of the real terror that threatens this world and keep pushing for justice, universal human rights and dignity. May the people of Norway, now that they have seen the blood drenched hands of the terror behind the curtain, strengthen their resolve and continue unabashed for this terrorist entity will come to an end with our concerted effort, as did South Africa.

ChaeDoc II
Gallente
Sigillum Militum Xpisti
Important Internet Spaceship League
Posted - 2011.07.26 13:22:00 - [68]
 

Originally by: Estephania
Originally by: Slade Trillgon

Man has been migrating/immigrating since the beginning. Most advancements in mankind’s history can be associated with the effects of migration/immigration.




What the hell are you talking about? What we see is not an immigration, it's migration. Immigration was when ppl from behind the iron curtain of the Soviet block made it to the West. When we are talking about millions, it's already migration. Migration of uneducated, fanatical, deeply religious population that has no respect for the rights of women, for democracy, for human rights. Have you heard about "honor killings", child marriage and all this in Western Europe. I will not talk about crime as criminals can be from any upbringing and I don't have any statistical data in that area, but there are places in Amsterdam, Brussels, Paris, London where even the police avoids entering.
If we are talking about migration, the last one happened about 1500 years ago, when the Roman Empire was crushed. You know what happened after that? The humankind was thrown back for nearly 1000 years in development, Do you want the history to repeat itself in out time?


They couldn't possibly be emigrating from their home countries because of those things. I mean, wanting a better, more free life here is just insane.

I also always have a little laugh to myself when someone holds such nutty, far-right views as you slags muslims off for "not respecting human rights" after the right and far-right repeatedly slag of liberals for being against human rights violations such as torture.

Estephania
Independent Political Analysts
Posted - 2011.07.26 13:42:00 - [69]
 

Edited by: Estephania on 26/07/2011 13:42:19
Originally by: ChaeDoc II


They couldn't possibly be emigrating from their home countries because of those things. I mean, wanting a better, more free life here is just insane.

I also always have a little laugh to myself when someone holds such nutty, far-right views as you slags muslims off for "not respecting human rights" after the right and far-right repeatedly slag of liberals for being against human rights violations such as torture.


Human rights shouldn't be applied blindly - terrorists, killers and other scum deserve their rights to be severely diminished and if to save 100 of innocents one terrorist should go down without a court order, then he should go down a.s.a.p. On the other hand, beating a woman to death because she did something that "embarrassed the family" is not ok same goes for stoning someone just because he's a homosexual. See the difference?

ChaeDoc II
Gallente
Sigillum Militum Xpisti
Important Internet Spaceship League
Posted - 2011.07.26 14:16:00 - [70]
 

Originally by: Estephania
Edited by: Estephania on 26/07/2011 13:42:19
Originally by: ChaeDoc II


They couldn't possibly be emigrating from their home countries because of those things. I mean, wanting a better, more free life here is just insane.

I also always have a little laugh to myself when someone holds such nutty, far-right views as you slags muslims off for "not respecting human rights" after the right and far-right repeatedly slag of liberals for being against human rights violations such as torture.


Human rights shouldn't be applied blindly...


They absolutely should.


Kalle Demos
Amarr
Helix Protocol
Posted - 2011.07.26 14:29:00 - [71]
 

Originally by: Estephania
Originally by: Khors
Originally by: Estephania
Originally by: Slade Trillgon

Man has been migrating/immigrating since the beginning. Most advancements in mankind’s history can be associated with the effects of migration/immigration.




What the hell are you talking about? What we see is not an immigration, it's migration. Immigration was when ppl from behind the iron curtain of the Soviet block made it to the West. When we are talking about millions, it's already migration. Migration of uneducated, fanatical, deeply religious population that has no respect for the rights of women, for democracy, for human rights. Have you heard about "honor killings", child marriage and all this in Western Europe. I will not talk about crime as criminals can be from any upbringing and I don't have any statistical data in that area, but there are places in Amsterdam, Brussels, Paris, London where even the police avoids entering.
If we are talking about migration, the last one happened about 1500 years ago, when the Roman Empire was crushed. You know what happened after that? The humankind was thrown back for nearly 1000 years in development, Do you want the history to repeat itself in out time?


It's a good thing you are safe from all those bad neighborhoods down there in missisippi am I right?


It's a good thing I'm safe, but I do not live even close to Mississippi. Btw, are you happy with London slowly turning into Lahore, I bet you are.


Just so you know 11% of UK are NON-British of which 2% are immigrants, while 43% of British people alone are obese, we also have the highest teenage pregnancy % of all first world countries.

If anything I have more respect for immigrants than British born people, so ashamed to have been born in this **** hole

Slade Trillgon
Endless Possibilities Inc.
Posted - 2011.07.26 14:36:00 - [72]
 

Originally by: Estephania


Human rights shouldn't be applied blindly - terrorists, killers and other scum deserve their rights to be severely diminished and if to save 100 of innocents one terrorist should go down without a court order, then he should go down a.s.a.p. On the other hand, beating a woman to death because she did something that "embarrassed the family" is not ok same goes for stoning someone just because he's a homosexual. See the difference?


The point of human rights is that they are applied blindly. Once an indivdual proves that they are unable to opperate under the "social contract" then their rights are diminished according to the law of the nation the individual resides within.

It sounds like you believe that every Muslim is guilty of said abhorrent practices by proxy. By that logic every far right wing individual is guilty of the same crime this nut job in Norway is guilty of. Should we assume that every right wing individual is willing to commit such attrocities? Should we go around and punish every right wing individual for the same crimes? I think not.


Slade

Super Whopper
I can Has Cheeseburger
Posted - 2011.07.26 15:15:00 - [73]
 

Edited by: Super Whopper on 26/07/2011 15:30:18
Originally by: Estephania
Human rights shouldn't be applied blindly - terrorists, killers and other scum deserve their rights to be severely diminished and if to save 100 of innocents one terrorist should go down without a court order, then he should go down a.s.a.p. On the other hand, beating a woman to death because she did something that "embarrassed the family" is not ok same goes for stoning someone just because he's a homosexual. See the difference?


Guess what? I just classed you as a terrorist for your extremist and fundamentalist views.

You want to fight terrorism? Switch the TV off and learn what is going on. When three Mossad agents go on TV and openly admit they were in New York to 'document the event' it's time for you to open your eyes and see the truth.

You who think you are so free, you are nothing but a slave. You are the true slave, living under a tyranny.

Originally by: Wolfgang Goethe
None are more enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free.


Day in day out we read things like this:

2007 RABBI MORDECHAI FRIEDMAN
"Blacks are like apes"

2010 RABBI YITZHAK GINSBURG
“Jewish blood is NOT the same as the blood of a goy (Gentile)”

2010 RABBI OVIDIA YOSEF
'Gentiles exist only to serve Jews'

2011 RABBI DOV LIOR
'Gentile sperm leads to cruel and barbaric offspring'

Peace loving people? Killing people far away in some fake fairy tale land called the promised land is one thing but killing people in Europe is another. You see what they think of you? Look it up, these terrorists, fundamentalists and extremists are the real terrorists. Fortunately for you I have posted nothing but historical facts.

They saw how Norway stands up to them, how the Norwegians are champions of justice and they carry out false-flag attacks as a threat to the rest of the country. I hope it backfires and they are buried under the hate they have created themselves.

In Israel they will be celebrating the attack. Settlers will be out on the streets dancing and having a great time, for not only was the blood of many Goy spilled but also a threat to their fascist existence extinguished, or so they think.

If this **** was released by a Muslim in Europe the author would have disappeared in solitary confinement for the rest of his life. But because it was written by a Rabbi it's fine. Read and shiver for this explains the doctrines of the state of Israel and why they carry out terrorist attacks world wide.

ChaeDoc I
Gallente
Kadesh Industries
Posted - 2011.07.26 15:58:00 - [74]
 

Edited by: ChaeDoc I on 26/07/2011 15:58:42
Sounds like you're a conspiracy theory extremist.

Super Whopper
I can Has Cheeseburger
Posted - 2011.07.26 17:16:00 - [75]
 

Sounds like you have a problem with reality.

Herzog Wolfhammer
Gallente
Sigma Special Tactics Group
Posted - 2011.07.26 17:56:00 - [76]
 

Edited by: Herzog Wolfhammer on 26/07/2011 18:01:57

Missing Lesson: Never Trust a Man in Uniform


Could this be Ideological Blowback?





Nimrod Nemesis
Amarr
Royal Amarr Institute
Posted - 2011.07.26 17:56:00 - [77]
 

Edited by: Nimrod Nemesis on 26/07/2011 17:57:21
Originally by: ChaeDoc I
Edited by: ChaeDoc I on 26/07/2011 15:58:42
Sounds like you're a conspiracy theory extremist.


He's not far from the truth, honestly.

Isreal is pretty messed up and not because of the palestinians either.

Herzog Wolfhammer
Gallente
Sigma Special Tactics Group
Posted - 2011.07.26 18:17:00 - [78]
 

Originally by: Furb Killer
Luckily Herzog can always look for fair and balanced news to Glenn Beck. Who decided that since it was a summer camp done by a party with a different opinion than his, they were basicly the ****** Jugend anyway... (and no i am not making that up, he is really that sick. He does say the whole concept of a youth summer camp from a political party is like the ****** jugend, which he should know about considering his own organisation organises them for children as young as 8 years old).


Wrong.

While both US and UK media have Beck lumped in with some kind of right-wing movement or the so-called "tea party", the real liberty movement never liked Glenn Beck because be smeared Ron Paul back in 2007. Beck is also very unpopular with the 911 truth movement because he took part in the "truthers are out to hurt the president" idea that the media attempted to float in search of new boogeymen. I have tangled with "Beckbots" at a few political conventions in the past couple of years and find them to be like an average German in the 1920s with a seemingly harmless copy of old Adolf's book on the nightstand (it is said that it was a big fad for every household to have a copy).

When Beck did his big rally last summer, I made a "motivational" poster with three pictures on it: one from a certain rally in Germany with the famous "three pillars" shot, the other from the Obama rally with Obama zombies as far as the eye can see, and then Becks rally, in the same place. The Caption for this poster was "NOTHING EVER CHANGES ... the only thing we can learn from history, is that nobody ever learns from history".

So don't put me in "left or right". That's the full spectrum dominance in action, like I am supposed to think only one way or the other. I am that sort of person who sees the BS on both sides, and if anyone asks about American politics, I just tell them to get a copy of Alien Versus Predator (whoever wins, we all lose). Yeah I'm with that crowd that is first to go to the camps whoever wins. This is why I have guns too, and have trained over 1000 others.

Nimrod Nemesis
Amarr
Royal Amarr Institute
Posted - 2011.07.26 19:04:00 - [79]
 

Originally by: Herzog Wolfhammer
This is why I have guns too, and have trained over 1000 others.


You really should refrain from posting in this thread.

ChaeDoc II
Gallente
Sigillum Militum Xpisti
Important Internet Spaceship League
Posted - 2011.07.26 19:15:00 - [80]
 

No no Nimron, let him. Maybe one day we'll get a mention in his manifesto.

Nimrod Nemesis
Amarr
Royal Amarr Institute
Posted - 2011.07.26 19:25:00 - [81]
 

Edited by: Nimrod Nemesis on 26/07/2011 19:26:28
Originally by: ChaeDoc II
No no Nimron, let him. Maybe one day we'll get a mention in his manifesto.


I'm not against his schizophrenic ramblings, but in this thread they are simply not appropriate.

What he needs is a manifesto thread.

Estephania
Independent Political Analysts
Posted - 2011.07.26 20:51:00 - [82]
 

Originally by: Super Whopper

Day in day out we read things like this:

2007 RABBI MORDECHAI FRIEDMAN
"Blacks are like apes"

2010 RABBI YITZHAK GINSBURG
“Jewish blood is NOT the same as the blood of a goy (Gentile)”

2010 RABBI OVIDIA YOSEF
'Gentiles exist only to serve Jews'

2011 RABBI DOV LIOR
'Gentile sperm leads to cruel and barbaric offspring'

Peace loving people? Killing people far away in some fake fairy tale land called the promised land is one thing but killing people in Europe is another. You see what they think of you? Look it up, these terrorists, fundamentalists and extremists are the real terrorists. Fortunately for you I have posted nothing but historical facts.

They saw how Norway stands up to them, how the Norwegians are champions of justice and they carry out false-flag attacks as a threat to the rest of the country. I hope it backfires and they are buried under the hate they have created themselves.

In Israel they will be celebrating the attack. Settlers will be out on the streets dancing and having a great time, for not only was the blood of many Goy spilled but also a threat to their fascist existence extinguished, or so they think.

If this **** was released by a Muslim in Europe the author would have disappeared in solitary confinement for the rest of his life. But because it was written by a Rabbi it's fine. Read and shiver for this explains the doctrines of the state of Israel and why they carry out terrorist attacks world wide.


Guess what? Nothing beats the good ole antisemitism, right? But fortunately for you I've made some googling on this and turns out you are actually lying. I have some friends in Israel so it made all the task much easier.
For King's Torah book some rabbis are being investigated by the criminal police.
Rabbi Ovadia or whatever is like 80-90 years old and the vast majority of ppl in Israel don't give a **** about what he says. He also published some ridiculous crap earlier when he told that a woman can't use a cellular phone or something, so, the guy is probably a senile idiot. Haaretz is an extreme left newspaper that loves to bash Israel and portray it as an occupational imperial force (which for such is small country is totally ridiculous). AFAIK no one in Israel was celebrating the massacre in Oslo, but I know that 9/11 was widely celebrated in the Muslim world and after 9/11 the most popular Muslim name became Osama (surpprize surprize).

And for those 4 citation of rabbis I've never heard of (and many ppl living in Israel as well) I can give you hundreds of Muslim fatwas calling for jihad against the West, praising suicide bombers, calling for more bloodshed in Europe, death threats for employees of a newspaper where caricatures on Muhammad were published, beheading because some stupid pastor several thousands miles away had burnt a book, etc, etc. And please don't forget the tinfoil hat when talking about Mossad and CIA, those ebil guys can turn your brain into a jelly from a sikrit room in Pentagon.

Sofa Raddis
Posted - 2011.07.26 21:06:00 - [83]
 

guys.... REMEMBER YOUR MEDICATION

Herzog Wolfhammer
Gallente
Sigma Special Tactics Group
Posted - 2011.07.26 21:42:00 - [84]
 

Originally by: Nimrod Nemesis
Edited by: Nimrod Nemesis on 26/07/2011 19:26:28
Originally by: ChaeDoc II
No no Nimron, let him. Maybe one day we'll get a mention in his manifesto.


I'm not against his schizophrenic ramblings, but in this thread they are simply not appropriate.

What he needs is a manifesto thread.


Sorry guys, but I am well known in my circles and outside as well, and I operate in public. My reasons are well known and no secret, and I have done some security work for very famous people. I'm not posting from mother's basement either.

As for not being appropriate? Sorry, but the goal of incidents like this, or people who will bring it up every chance they get, is to use it to shut people up. I saw it here in the US over OKC, and I feel sorry for Norwegians who will now have to put up with this every time they go against anything the labor party (and anything people who will now want to get into the labor party as a means of furthering their agendas) will want to do.

It is VERY appropriate to point out that this active shooter (and this is something I studied having built combat courses around this scenario) had a disarmed victim zone to play in for over an hour while SWAT, or Norway's version of it, took it's time getting there. It happens in the US in shopping malls (Trolley Square where there is a "no guns allowed" sign out front) and schools (federal crime to be within 1000' of schools with firearm - even legally possessed/licensed). You see, while the Norwegians boohoo and sob over this tragedy calling for more laws to make sure it happens again, in America we are going to point out how civilian disarmament opens the door to this kind of madness. At Columbine, for example, a resource officer - a cop who gets assigned to patrol the school - kept Klebold and Harris tied up in a stairwell for a long time.

So go ahead, continue on your track, Nimrod. What's in a name? Everything in this case.




Slade Trillgon
Endless Possibilities Inc.
Posted - 2011.07.26 21:46:00 - [85]
 

Originally by: Estephania

And for those 4 citation of rabbis I've never heard of (and many ppl living in Israel as well) I can give you hundreds of Muslim fatwas calling for jihad against the West, praising suicide bombers, calling for more bloodshed in Europe, death threats for employees of a newspaper where caricatures on Muhammad were published, beheading because some stupid pastor several thousands miles away had burnt a book, etc, etc. And please don't forget the tinfoil hat when talking about Mossad and CIA, those ebil guys can turn your brain into a jelly from a sikrit room in Pentagon.


I am still not really sure what your ilk really wants. As far as I can tell, what you want is awfully similar to what any fatwa, calling for the destruction of the West, wants to accomplish, but against the muslim world as a whole. Considering the West is not short of violent crime that is, in all practicle sense and purposes, the same as all those you mentioned above, it does not have a pedastal to stand on.


Slade

Kalle Demos
Amarr
Helix Protocol
Posted - 2011.07.26 21:47:00 - [86]
 

Cant believe you guys are still getting trolled by Herzog Rolling Eyes

Herzog Wolfhammer
Gallente
Sigma Special Tactics Group
Posted - 2011.07.26 21:50:00 - [87]
 

Edited by: Herzog Wolfhammer on 26/07/2011 21:50:07
Originally by: Kalle Demos
Cant believe you guys are still getting trolled by Herzog Rolling Eyes


Awe c'mon I am not even touching the Israel thing.


And here is some good news El Linko Here



Nimrod Nemesis
Amarr
Royal Amarr Institute
Posted - 2011.07.26 22:19:00 - [88]
 

Originally by: Herzog Wolfhammer
Edited by: Herzog Wolfhammer on 26/07/2011 21:50:07
Originally by: Kalle Demos
Cant believe you guys are still getting trolled by Herzog Rolling Eyes


Awe c'mon I am not even touching the Israel thing.


And here is some good news El Linko Here





This must be one of those trolls within a troll within a troll...

Please visit your user settings to re-enable images.


Hoya en Marland
Posted - 2011.07.27 01:44:00 - [89]
 

I bet vast number of people in Europe actually agree with most of the things written in that Manifesto.

ChaeDoc II
Gallente
Sigillum Militum Xpisti
Important Internet Spaceship League
Posted - 2011.07.27 01:55:00 - [90]
 

Originally by: Herzog Wolfhammer
Originally by: Nimrod Nemesis
Edited by: Nimrod Nemesis on 26/07/2011 19:26:28
Originally by: ChaeDoc II
No no Nimron, let him. Maybe one day we'll get a mention in his manifesto.


I'm not against his schizophrenic ramblings, but in this thread they are simply not appropriate.

What he needs is a manifesto thread.


Sorry guys, but I am well known in my circles and outside as well, and I operate in public. My reasons are well known and no secret, and I have done some security work for very famous people. I'm not posting from mother's basement either.

As for not being appropriate? Sorry, but the goal of incidents like this, or people who will bring it up every chance they get, is to use it to shut people up. I saw it here in the US over OKC, and I feel sorry for Norwegians who will now have to put up with this every time they go against anything the labor party (and anything people who will now want to get into the labor party as a means of furthering their agendas) will want to do.

It is VERY appropriate to point out that this active shooter (and this is something I studied having built combat courses around this scenario) had a disarmed victim zone to play in for over an hour while SWAT, or Norway's version of it, took it's time getting there. It happens in the US in shopping malls (Trolley Square where there is a "no guns allowed" sign out front) and schools (federal crime to be within 1000' of schools with firearm - even legally possessed/licensed). You see, while the Norwegians boohoo and sob over this tragedy calling for more laws to make sure it happens again, in America we are going to point out how civilian disarmament opens the door to this kind of madness. At Columbine, for example, a resource officer - a cop who gets assigned to patrol the school - kept Klebold and Harris tied up in a stairwell for a long time.

So go ahead, continue on your track, Nimrod. What's in a name? Everything in this case.







Are you seriously trying to compare US gun control to Norweigan gun control, and then say gun control in Norway is bad because this one incident happened? Gun ownership in Norway is common, they don't have the twisted fascination with them that Americans do or have an NRA that would be against outlawing SAMs if it thought it could, but it's not uncommon for a Norwegian to own firearms yet relative to population i dare say Norway has a far lower instance of gun crime than the USA.

It's also pretty low to try to use this so glibly to further a pro-gun agenda.


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