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Gaboth Zaradath
Posted - 2011.07.22 03:41:00 - [1]
 

I've been scanning down wormholes for the last couple of weeks, and I haven't seen an unoccupied C2/C3 wh. I saw one or two free C1 wormholes though.

Is this how CCP intended w-space to be?

Although, would it be correct to assume that when more T3 ships come out, more systems will be added?

Raid'En
Posted - 2011.07.22 03:43:00 - [2]
 

Originally by: Gaboth Zaradath

Although, would it be correct to assume that when more T3 ships come out, more systems will be added?

new tech3 are 2014 (c) and noone said new wh would be added.
they however said there would be more chance to add new wh than new nullsec

Ruze Ahkor'Murkon
Amarr
No Applicable Corporation
Posted - 2011.07.22 03:48:00 - [3]
 

This is the nature of EvE. Provide a resource, and players will monopolize it.

This is why the concept of 'unexplored systems' and 'free space' can't come to pass. We, the players, are the reason. Even if there isn't a mechanic available to let us control a system or region, we'll still do so.

400,000 players or more in EvE. What, did you think we were all in hisec?

Lord Viziam
GunStars
Posted - 2011.07.22 04:03:00 - [4]
 

It's very likely that there will be changes to the wormhole mechanics because I don't think the devs intended players to be squating in them full time. I think CCP Soundwave mentioned this in some interview somewhere.

It was also mentioned that there may be additional wormhole systems added that are more suitable for permanent colonisation. I don't know how they will accomplish that without a s.h.i.t ton of player rage since many players/corps have invested heavily in their systems (carriers/dreads/rorquals).

Alxea
Posted - 2011.07.22 04:08:00 - [5]
 

Originally by: Gaboth Zaradath
I've been scanning down wormholes for the last couple of weeks, and I haven't seen an unoccupied C2/C3 wh. I saw one or two free C1 wormholes though.

Is this how CCP intended w-space to be?

Although, would it be correct to assume that when more T3 ships come out, more systems will be added?


Wait 2497 wormhole systems are not enough for you? Razz

Cipher Jones
Minmatar
Posted - 2011.07.22 04:10:00 - [6]
 

If you cant find an empty wormhole take an occupied one. It is EvE online after all.

Dorian Wylde
Posted - 2011.07.22 04:27:00 - [7]
 

The presence of a control tower does not mean the system is occupied.

Mr Kidd
Posted - 2011.07.22 05:20:00 - [8]
 

Originally by: Gaboth Zaradath
I've been scanning down wormholes for the last couple of weeks, and I haven't seen an unoccupied C2/C3 wh. I saw one or two free C1 wormholes though.

Is this how CCP intended w-space to be?

Although, would it be correct to assume that when more T3 ships come out, more systems will be added?


I've spent 3 weeks of dedicated searching for a new home. C2 -> c3 would have been ideal but, all of those are occupied that I came across. So, I settled for something less than ideal. I'm now 2 wh jumps deep from k-space...it's rather quiet and still profitable. I've got no complaints.

With w-space becoming over crowded expect more conflict. The ideal systems are the ones to be fought over.

Digital Messiah
Gallente
N7 Corporation
PandaMonium.
Posted - 2011.07.22 05:24:00 - [9]
 

Well, kick people out of the old systems.

Malcanis
Caldari
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
Posted - 2011.07.22 05:59:00 - [10]
 

Originally by: Gaboth Zaradath

Is this how CCP intended w-space to be?



No, they intended it to be empty and unused for 2 whole years until you felt like claiming a system with no effort or conflict.

Bug report this and get it fixed.

Ingvar Angst
Amarr
Nasty Pope Holding Corp
Talocan United
Posted - 2011.07.22 11:26:00 - [11]
 

I just hope the devs are capable of separating their initial intent with what the current reality is regarding wormholes. Even if they weren't intended to be full-time colonized, the fact is that this is what they've evolved into.

It's not a bad thing. Go with it.

Wormholes are frontier living in Eve. You never know when that band of invaders is coming, or even if they're already there. You have to work extra hard (compared to easier living, like null space for example) to keep yourselves fueled up and functioning. You don't have access to constantly replenishing supplies of minerals, so you have to plan when you tap grav sites for those resources. There's no Concord, no local, no jump bridges, cynos, etc.

Don't nerf the frontier. Let it grow.

Hakaru Ishiwara
Minmatar
Republic Military School
Posted - 2011.07.22 13:17:00 - [12]
 

Originally by: Malcanis
Originally by: Gaboth Zaradath

Is this how CCP intended w-space to be?



No, they intended it to be empty and unused for 2 whole years until you felt like claiming a system with no effort or conflict.

Bug report this and get it fixed.
Oh snap! I like your subtlety.

@ the OP: There are other options such as making friends with current occupants and joining their group or playing the annoying bastard and provide incentives for a crew to leave a desirable w-space system. YARRRR!!

Caldari Citizen20090217
Posted - 2011.07.22 13:21:00 - [13]
 

Confirming wh life is some of the best eve has to offer. Small gang pvp, very few blobs, no hotdrops or supers, no omniscient local (yay ambushes), constantly shifting routes, decent isk, opportunities for both pvper and industrial alike. Bonus points for being much harder to bot safely than 0.0. tbh, wh space is what 0.0 should have been.

Moar wormhole spaec pls CCP.

BuckStrider
Nano-Tech Experiments
Posted - 2011.07.22 13:23:00 - [14]
 

Originally by: Gaboth Zaradath
I've been scanning down wormholes for the last couple of weeks, and I haven't seen an unoccupied C2/C3 wh. I saw one or two free C1 wormholes though.

Is this how CCP intended w-space to be?

Although, would it be correct to assume that when more T3 ships come out, more systems will be added?


Considering that ALL C1-C3 WH systems are static connected to k-space (hi,low or null), is it really any surprise that these systems would be occupied? Rolling Eyes

You'll find that there are many C4-C6 WH systems that are unoccupied because the don't have a static connected to k-space


J Kunjeh
Gallente
Posted - 2011.07.22 13:46:00 - [15]
 

Originally by: Ruze Ahkor'Murkon
This is the nature of EvE. Provide a resource, and players will monopolize it.

This is why the concept of 'unexplored systems' and 'free space' can't come to pass. We, the players, are the reason. Even if there isn't a mechanic available to let us control a system or region, we'll still do so.

400,000 players or more in EvE. What, did you think we were all in hisec?


Actually, it's more like 150k individual players, and 350k subbed accounts.

Ingvar Angst
Amarr
Nasty Pope Holding Corp
Talocan United
Posted - 2011.07.22 13:51:00 - [16]
 

Originally by: BuckStrider
Originally by: Gaboth Zaradath
I've been scanning down wormholes for the last couple of weeks, and I haven't seen an unoccupied C2/C3 wh. I saw one or two free C1 wormholes though.

Is this how CCP intended w-space to be?

Although, would it be correct to assume that when more T3 ships come out, more systems will be added?


Considering that ALL C1-C3 WH systems are static connected to k-space (hi,low or null), is it really any surprise that these systems would be occupied? Rolling Eyes

You'll find that there are many C4-C6 WH systems that are unoccupied because the don't have a static connected to k-space




You'll also find many that are populated because they don't have a static connected to K-space. Holes with only statics to K-space are less desirable.

Riley Moore
Sentinum Research
Posted - 2011.07.22 15:22:00 - [17]
 

Buy some guns and take a system.

Jaehawn
Posted - 2011.07.22 18:14:00 - [18]
 

Stop asking for new stuff. They are taking their money and making vampire FPS games. You have your game now go play it. Go buy some space barbie clothes and stfu.

Thomasale
Posted - 2011.07.22 18:46:00 - [19]
 

Pick a hole and make it your own...look for another small group to be in there occupying...should not be too hard.

Liva Daril
Caldari
Posted - 2011.07.22 18:55:00 - [20]
 

Edited by: Liva Daril on 22/07/2011 18:55:15
Here´s a novel idea: How about not griefing the crap out of everybody and just join one of these gorram WH corps?

Uther Istavel
Posted - 2011.07.22 19:19:00 - [21]
 

Originally by: Cipher Jones
If you cant find an empty wormhole take an occupied one. It is EvE online after all.


this.

Jack Tronic
Posted - 2011.07.22 19:47:00 - [22]
 

1. C1/C2/C3s are full.
2. Control towers litter space, especially if offline, they stay there forever until someone bashes them
3 Why do you want more systems? Evict current ones.
4. There is a nature limit to squatters, at some point the amount of signatures/sites overall will decline where people will leave due to barely making isk,etc.

Inappropriate comment removed. Zymurgist

Nah Ting Tooluze
Posted - 2011.07.22 20:26:00 - [23]
 

There are plenty of unoccupied wormholes systems. In fact they are all empty. Every single one I go in to I nobody is in local and none of my core probes ever picks up another ship.

Timural
Posted - 2011.07.22 20:28:00 - [24]
 

Fighting for wormhole space has already come into effect, its prime real estate even more so than 0.0 and the less real estate there is the more valuable it becomes.

Ai Mei
Starfish Operating Syndicate
Posted - 2011.07.22 20:45:00 - [25]
 

there are empty c1-c3's still.

After living in a c4 with a static c3, they were not that hard to find. There are some very interesting empty c2's out there, with sites never seen before. It's all about patience,

Postrem Inkunen
Posted - 2011.07.22 21:05:00 - [26]
 

Originally by: Jaehawn
Stop asking for new stuff. They are taking their money and making vampire FPS games. You have your game now go play it. Go buy some space barbie clothes and stfu.


Why is EVERY thread another opportunity to cry about vampires and vanity items?

FFS either quit the game or get over it. Either way stop posting this whiny drek.

AkJon Ferguson
JC Ferguson and Son Ltd
Ferguson Alliance
Posted - 2011.07.22 21:18:00 - [27]
 

I suggested this very idea several months ago here but apparently the listeners of the show hosted by the deadbeat dad (of 5 young children) and the guy who has to buy 2 seats to fly anywhere are as clueless as the hosts.


 

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