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Martinez
T-Cells
Moar Tears
Posted - 2011.07.24 22:11:00 - [151]
 

Originally by: Dalloway Jones
These threads always devolve into a mess because of a few unevolved, backwards thinking, socially conservative thugs and cretins.


funny thing about evolution. it doesnt happen in the gay community because they are unable to reproduce with sex. the only kind of evolution they do is the evolution of our souls rotting from the core.

this game is about internet space ships. its not about sex. like i said earlier, if it is allowed in the next thing will be HATE CRIMES AGAINST THE GAYS IF I PK AND LAUGH. seriously can you queers not keep your sickness to yourself. i dont care what you do with who. i dont want myself or my kids to have to deal with it.

Misanth
RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE
Posted - 2011.07.24 22:40:00 - [152]
 

I RP gay ingame. But I blame the Empyrean Age novel, where that fat Amarr-secretery-standin-for-the-god-dude was enjoying his minmatar slaves. It made me feel like a catholic, kinda inspired my character.

Bane Loppknow
Pel Industries
Posted - 2011.07.24 22:44:00 - [153]
 

Edited by: Bane Loppknow on 24/07/2011 22:45:19
@OP: Did you read the same Empyrean Age I did? I seem to remember some fat Amarr zealot manhandling young slave boys.

Misanth
RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE
Posted - 2011.07.24 23:15:00 - [154]
 

Originally by: Bane Loppknow
Edited by: Bane Loppknow on 24/07/2011 22:45:19
@OP: Did you read the same Empyrean Age I did? I seem to remember some fat Amarr zealot manhandling young slave boys.


Originally by: Misanth
I RP gay ingame. But I blame the Empyrean Age novel, where that fat Amarr-secretery-standin-for-the-god-dude was enjoying his minmatar slaves. It made me feel like a catholic, kinda inspired my character.

Marshiro
Posted - 2011.07.24 23:42:00 - [155]
 

I'm totally cloning myself so I can finally find someone worthy to have sex with.

Darveses
Fantastulousification Inc.
Posted - 2011.07.24 23:51:00 - [156]
 

Mhh this thread pops up on every MMO forum at some point.

And I mean this very thread, with these very answers. Always goes the same way, sadly.

Nth Ares
Posted - 2011.07.25 00:56:00 - [157]
 

Originally by: Darveses
Mhh this thread pops up on every MMO forum at some point.

And I mean this very thread, with these very answers. Always goes the same way, sadly.


It always goes this way because a lot of the people who get vocal about it one way or the other, are emotionally children. It's hard for them to come to terms with a world that isn't black/white, that has no regard for justice or karma, does not enforce their ideals. Truth is if you want something to happen, you have to make it happen; and if you don't like what others are doing, don't associate with them. This is advice for both the pro-queer and anti-queer voices.

Best thing for those who want to see more LGBT representation in the game's fiction should WRITE SOME FICTION!

Those who oppose expressions of alternative sexuality should STFU and just not read said fiction. As they say, the game itself has ZERO sexual content or need of it.

Flamespar
Posted - 2011.07.25 01:04:00 - [158]
 

Edited by: Flamespar on 25/07/2011 01:07:51
Firstly I want to thank the OP for providing me with a handy dandy list of homophobic f**tards that I can now hunt down and obliterate.

Secondly, sadly whenever someone brings up the word 'Gay' on EVE it always serves to remind me just how toxic and immature many players are.

The counter arguements against gay characters in EVE reflect the same arguements that are used (and still used) against gay people in real life. We (yes, me included) still have to put up with this in real life.

Straight men don't have to deal with this **** cause they are the accepted 'norm', they've never been spat on, threatened, kicked out of home, because of their sexuality.

So f**k you. We have to stand up against homophobia where-ever it occurs, even in EVE. Because if we don't, you narrow minded f**ktards will continue to harm those men and women who are gay, simply because you are deluded enough and enraptured with your own sense of entitlement to think you are right in doing so.

Posted with my main, cause I'm not the one who should be afraid.




nahtoh
Caldari
Brotherhood of The Saltire
EVE Animal Control
Posted - 2011.07.25 01:23:00 - [159]
 

Originally by: Flamespar
Edited by: Flamespar on 25/07/2011 01:07:51
Firstly I want to thank the OP for providing me with a handy dandy list of homophobic f**tards that I can now hunt down and obliterate.

Secondly, sadly whenever someone brings up the word 'Gay' on EVE it always serves to remind me just how toxic and immature many players are.

The counter arguements against gay characters in EVE reflect the same arguements that are used (and still used) against gay people in real life. We (yes, me included) still have to put up with this in real life.

Straight men don't have to deal with this **** cause they are the accepted 'norm', they've never been spat on, threatened, kicked out of home, because of their sexuality.

So f**k you. We have to stand up against homophobia where-ever it occurs, even in EVE. Because if we don't, you narrow minded f**ktards will continue to harm those men and women who are gay, simply because you are deluded enough and enraptured with your own sense of entitlement to think you are right in doing so.

Posted with my main, cause I'm not the one who should be afraid.






Yeah only gay people get picked on don't they fu*ktard? Self entitled dipsh!ts like you are the reason this type of crap kicks off.

nahtoh
Caldari
Brotherhood of The Saltire
EVE Animal Control
Posted - 2011.07.25 01:26:00 - [160]
 

Originally by: Kyo Haku
Interesting how people are completely missing the point and intention of this thread. Maybe if I had used the word "lesbian" instead of "gay" the response would have been different.


Mine would not have been...

GeoBlue
Posted - 2011.07.25 02:17:00 - [161]
 

Why must there always be one gay F@#$tard who starts stupid crap? And why is this post not locked?Evil or Very Mad

Le Sabre
Gallente
The Dead Canary Mining Corporation
Legion of Honor
Posted - 2011.07.25 02:31:00 - [162]
 

Edited by: Le Sabre on 25/07/2011 02:41:50
Originally by: Flamespar


Straight men don't have to deal with this **** cause they are the accepted 'norm', they've never been spat on, threatened, kicked out of home, because of their sexuality.

So f**k you.



Um pretty sure a lot of straight guys, myself included have been spat on, threatened (oh countless times) and kicked out of home, just not for the same reasons as you.

So f**k you right back tbh.

I know I know, its such a hard life being gay and no one else has ever had to deal with the same hardships as you, you poor hard done by person you.

Its prolly not the right thing to say, and bearing in mind one of my most trusted friends in this game is also gay, but I think he would also say this: Stop being such a friggin pansy!!

Posted with main also.

Edit : I couldn't care less how people get their rocks off in rl, and I woulda thought you of all people here would've known better than to stick a label on a group of people who are different to you given the obvious grievance's you have. Labeling all straight people is as bad as labeling all gay people imho and makes you as bad as the people you complain about.

Martinez
T-Cells
Moar Tears
Posted - 2011.07.25 03:36:00 - [163]
 

Originally by: Flamespar
Edited by: Flamespar on 25/07/2011 01:07:51
Firstly I want to thank the OP for providing me with a handy dandy list of homophobic f**tards that I can now hunt down and obliterate.

Secondly, sadly whenever someone brings up the word 'Gay' on EVE it always serves to remind me just how toxic and immature many players are.

The counter arguements against gay characters in EVE reflect the same arguements that are used (and still used) against gay people in real life. We (yes, me included) still have to put up with this in real life.

Straight men don't have to deal with this **** cause they are the accepted 'norm', they've never been spat on, threatened, kicked out of home, because of their sexuality.

So f**k you. We have to stand up against homophobia where-ever it occurs, even in EVE. Because if we don't, you narrow minded f**ktards will continue to harm those men and women who are gay, simply because you are deluded enough and enraptured with your own sense of entitlement to think you are right in doing so.

Posted with my main, cause I'm not the one who should be afraid.






lol i live in empire. i welcome you coming to find me. just dont come from the rear. when i destroy your ship, kill your pod, then shoot your corpse because i dont want to bring it aboard my ship for health reasons. is that going to be a hate crime?

Valentina Valentia
Caldari
State War Academy
Posted - 2011.07.25 04:07:00 - [164]
 

Edited by: Valentina Valentia on 25/07/2011 04:08:02
Teen-Rated, Don't care, TMI on the personal info... etc...

Why do people feel a need to point out these things - practically no one cares what people do or who or what anymore, if you are looking for a shock-value or something you're in the wrong game/community - try joining ar religion or something where people still count the animal entails or believe in some make-believe deity...

EVE is SO totally NOT about sexuality it's not even a point of discussion. Rolling Eyes

The Offerer
Minmatar
Posted - 2011.07.25 04:45:00 - [165]
 

Originally by: Darveses
Mhh this thread pops up on every MMO forum at some point.

And I mean this very thread, with these very answers. Always goes the same way, sadly.


That's why this is the first time I've opened it on this forum to see what's written (after a couple of days of it hanging on the first page of GD). At this point, I can safely say that the thread is derailed enough to be locked, but anyway... here's my opinion (as an amateur fiction writer) on the subject:

EVE Chronicles (haven't read the books yet) are pretty much very good written. Any good writer knows that if you write too much about things that are irrelevant for the whole story, you end up with boring stuff. If you write too much about the whole point of the story, you'll reveal too much to the reader and that's not good - you want your readers to be slightly confused and investigative if you want them to think about your piece of work and appreciate it.

Now, to the subject of sexual orientation in fiction... You can't just use sexuality (in general) in the story about a spaceship game as something that's only mentioned to fill the story. You need a reason for mentioning it. In the storyline where we are guided to reveal the secret about ancient races and analyze politics of huge empires that spread through hundreds of solar systems, you can't just expect that sexuality will pop up for no reason at all. It's just not relevant enough.

Now, to make it relevant, you'll have to use it somehow. Like setting the tone of some location (as mentioned earlier - gay bar) that is important for the story. When you are writing fiction that is as mysterious as EVE's (great job CCP Dropbear and the fiction team) every single description that is used in the story is on its place and has been put there for a reason. You can't just mention a gay bar if you don't want to connect it to something that couldn't happen anywhere else except in a gay bar. Otherwise, you are just throwing irrelevant information to your readers that can serve to confuse them and take the charm of searching for meaning of the descriptions in the story from them. I mean, what's the point of a mysterious fiction if you are using locations, characters or their behavior as something that is in no way connected to the story and can lead your readers to think that you have started to put info that is irrelevant. It takes the charm out of solving the mystery if something as big as a location or character behavior is set up without a reason.

Now, there could be stories that can use sexual properties of a location or characters, but try to look at it this way. I'm not saying that I know the sexual orientation of CCP's fiction writers, but if we have fiction that is avoiding to mention sexual orientation, then there's probably a good reason:
1) Fiction writers are straight and when they write, they think about the storyline and work for which they are paid for, not about sexual orientation of the characters in stories. They simply focus on presenting the information to the readers and transfer some properties of their everyday life into the story as something that is taken for granted or not relevant enough to mention. They are not afraid to use alternative preferences in their story... they simply haven't really thought about sexuality in science fiction series about internet spaceships.
2) Fiction writers haven't found a suitable situation that could use sexual orientation of the characters as an important part of the story. It happens all the time: even if you want to use something in your story you simply don't get good enough inspiration to actually write something about it.

So, sit back and relax about sexuality in an SF about internet spaceships, or if you really need an answer, take some time to do a little research on theories of fiction writing and basics of human psychology. Oh,... and to practice relations between what's (not)mentioned in the story and why, I recommend Dostoyevsky.Wink


Fullmetal Jackass
Posted - 2011.07.25 05:38:00 - [166]
 

Originally by: Mirabi Tiane
I don't expect everyone to agree with me when I choose unusual hobbies or take controversial stances of opinion.
I want people who "disagree" with a basic fact of another person's being, something they do not choose, such as sexual orientation, to realize that by mature, reasonable standards their opinion on that particular subject has no respectability.
Everyone has opinions. People are entitled to them. If you don't want someones opinion on your sexuality, don't bring it up by demanding it be recognized.

I don't demand people recognize and respect my sexuality, I just go pick up who I want to sleep with. I don't advertise my pref in a video game either.

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C C P
C C P Alliance
Posted - 2011.07.25 09:55:00 - [167]
 

This thread has now run its course. It is going way off topic and is littered with inappropriate references despite being moderated multiple times.


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