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Hilen Tukoss
Caldari
Eifyr and Co.
Posted - 2011.07.21 07:55:00 - [1]
 

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Chief Archivists Sought



Pilots are sought to fill three available Chief Archivist positions within the Arek'Jaalan project.

Positions will be filled as applicants are accepted. Applicants will be assessed on a first-come, first-serve basis.

Further information is available here.

Nausea
Veto.
Veto Corp
Posted - 2011.07.21 08:41:00 - [2]
 

Now that, is an interesting advertisement...

Consider said interest registered, with added curiosity to know more, coupled with added desire to perform the role...

The Antiquarian
Amarr
Posted - 2011.07.21 08:42:00 - [3]
 

Anyone with superb ability in documentation and archival management should apply for this much esteemed position.

The work you publish will be preserved for our "posterity." Be part of history of the New Eden.

Zephyr Song
Gallente
Center for Advanced Studies
Posted - 2011.07.21 10:22:00 - [4]
 

My apologies I have been out of the loop for a while but is there somewhere I can read about the Arek'Jaalan project in more detail?

Caviar Liberta
Gallente
Moira.
Posted - 2011.07.21 10:25:00 - [5]
 

Edited by: Caviar Liberta on 21/07/2011 10:27:34

You can find that information right here. http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Arek'Jaalan

Zephyr Song
Gallente
Center for Advanced Studies
Posted - 2011.07.21 12:06:00 - [6]
 

Registering my interest in the position.

Qansh
Gallente
Triskelion Ouroboros
Posted - 2011.07.21 12:32:00 - [7]
 

I have nothing but time and books and will (and I will put the books aside). Color me interested.

Xia Kairui
Lone Star Exploration
Posted - 2011.07.21 20:08:00 - [8]
 

As a Caldari scientist who left to Gallente space since my research was to be corrupted and abused to further the personal advancement of the corporate cronies I can feel with you.

While I am interested in aiding you you deliver precious little information on what you plan to do, could you please elaborate on your goals and projected methods?

Rek Jaiga
Minmatar
Crimson Path
Posted - 2011.07.21 20:51:00 - [9]
 

As an amateur, self-taught individual of science I am interested in this grassroots scientific endeavor of yours. Please mark me down as being interested.

Hilen Tukoss
Caldari
Eifyr and Co.
Posted - 2011.07.22 03:21:00 - [10]
 

Originally by: Xia Kairui
While I am interested in aiding you, you deliver precious little information on what you plan to do, could you please elaborate on your goals and projected methods?


Part of the CA's initial role will be to assist other departments in codifying these things. Until we've finalized various charters (a task I hope we can make some good progress on this week) I can only offer provisional answers to these questions. We should, over the coming weeks, have prepared a mission statement that makes our goals much clearer.

Broadly speaking though, our goal is to research all things Sleeper and Sleeper-related, document our findings and theories with full transparency, and then educate the wider capsuleer community on our work. We cannot hope to spread knowledge if it has not been documented first, however. This is where the CA comes in. This task takes on a particular importance with this project, since we have a goal to educate not only ourselves, but others as well.


Syekuda
Hell's Revenge
Posted - 2011.07.22 16:24:00 - [11]
 

Is this related to Sansha's Incursion and the Jovians ? They (Sansha) seem to have more knowledge on wormhole technology than us here. How do we know that your not really working for the Sansha - perhaps this is a trick to gather more information for all I know.

Wyke Mossari
Gallente
Posted - 2011.07.22 19:21:00 - [12]
 

Originally by: Syekuda
Is this related to Sansha's Incursion and the Jovians ? They (Sansha) seem to have more knowledge on wormhole technology than us here. How do we know that your not really working for the Sansha - perhaps this is a trick to gather more information for all I know.


If your statement that Sansha are more knowledgeable on wormhole technology was true, why would they need to? That is a logical fallacy.

Syekuda
Hell's Revenge
Posted - 2011.07.22 20:06:00 - [13]
 

Can you imagine if the Sansha would use the complete sleeper technology on their ship ? I don't think New Eden capsuleers would stand a chance. I do remind you that sleepers are stronger and have more defence than the usual new eden ships from all the races (except jovians and high authority like CONCORD and the like).

I can tell you personally that a sansha ship is a joke to destroy compared to a sleeper ship. This in mind, I don't want sansha to use Sleeper techonology.

Odelya d'Hanguest
ZERO HEAVY INDUSTRIES
Posted - 2011.07.22 21:22:00 - [14]
 

Originally by: Hilen Tukoss
Originally by: Xia Kairui
While I am interested in aiding you, you deliver precious little information on what you plan to do, could you please elaborate on your goals and projected methods?


Part of the CA's initial role will be to assist other departments in codifying these things. Until we've finalized various charters (a task I hope we can make some good progress on this week) I can only offer provisional answers to these questions. We should, over the coming weeks, have prepared a mission statement that makes our goals much clearer.

Broadly speaking though, our goal is to research all things Sleeper and Sleeper-related, document our findings and theories with full transparency [emphasis added O. d. H.], and then educate the wider capsuleer community on our work. We cannot hope to spread knowledge if it has not been documented first, however. This is where the CA comes in. This task takes on a particular importance with this project, since we have a goal to educate not only ourselves, but others as well.


Dr. Tukoss,

you might start adding transparency by explaining your recent defection to the Minmatar Republic. I find it very hard to trust a man who leaves his position, his responsibilities and steels intellectual property—to name just a few of your recent deeds—without an explanation. Or do you think that a few words to a journalist qualify as an excuse?

You state that you want to rely on the capsuleer community rather than on the scientific community. Why didn’t you just found your own research institute in that case? Eifyr and Co. is not a neutral institution. It is known to have ties to Republic Security Services which is close to be a criminal organisation. So when you talk about the turn Caldari science has taken towards “applied science” and “commodification and weaponization” do you take into account that the technology Eifyr and Co. is researching is utilised in the manufacturing of drugs? What about your future findings? The Republic will be quite excited to get hands on Talocan and Sleeper technology. What are you doing to prevent this? Are you naïve or just pretending to be?

In my opinion you’re just another criminal. You’re using your academic training and professional life to bait people into your arms. Maybe the School of Applied Science should officially rescind your doctorate due to violating standard research practices.

Best regards from Kourmonen,
Odelya d’Hanguest

Anslo
Disciples of Night
Dominion of Darkness
Posted - 2011.07.25 01:12:00 - [15]
 

We are still seeking a Chief Archivist if anyone is still interested. Please contact Hilen Tukoss for more details.

Reiisha
Veto Corp
Posted - 2011.07.25 22:43:00 - [16]
 

This looks rather interesting...

Saikoyu
Amarr
Rho Dynamics
Posted - 2011.07.26 17:23:00 - [17]
 

If there is still a position open, I would be interested in it. However, I admit that planet side activities take up much of my time. From my reading of the position, it seems that almost all of the functions of this position do not necessitate being in a pod. If that is true, then my interest stands.

Odelya d'Hanguest
ZERO HEAVY INDUSTRIES
Posted - 2011.07.28 12:25:00 - [18]
 

Since Dr. Tukoss isn't willing or able to answer my questions, let me just provide some evidence of the scientific efforts his clique is undertaking:

Originally by: The Antiquarian
Greetings,

On behalf of the Arek'Jaalan Acquisition Division, we wanted to ask the community whether any munificent individuals have two spare Aurora Ominae Doomsday Weapon BPC lying around the hangers, collecting ages of dust.

The 2 x BPCs will be used by a prominent member of our community officially sanctioned by our Dr. Hilen Tukoss himself, for a project that would potentially yield much value.

We humbly ask you for the help. Please contact us if you are interested.

Kind regards,
Arek'Jaalan Acquisition Division


There are also lists circulating mentioning the need for the acquisition of a massive armoury, capable of annihilating not only minor colonies, but capital populations. What serves here as an example of so called transparency of the Tukoss clique ("prominent member", "for a project") should alarm everyone. The proliferation of weapons of mass destruction should not prevail on this outpost of tyranny.

The day will come when they—like others before—will send other people's children on missions of suicide and murder. They embrace tyranny and death as a cause and a creed. I invite you to stand for a different choice. Down with the Tukoss’ clique, down with defection and treason!

Myxx
Atropos Group
Posted - 2011.07.28 12:27:00 - [19]
 

Edited by: Myxx on 28/07/2011 12:33:43
Edited by: Myxx on 28/07/2011 12:31:02
Originally by: Odelya d'Hanguest
Since Dr. Tukoss isn't willing or able to answer my questions, let me just provide some evidence of the scientific efforts his clique is undertaking:

Originally by: The Antiquarian
Greetings,

On behalf of the Arek'Jaalan Acquisition Division, we wanted to ask the community whether any munificent individuals have two spare Aurora Ominae Doomsday Weapon BPC lying around the hangers, collecting ages of dust.

The 2 x BPCs will be used by a prominent member of our community officially sanctioned by our Dr. Hilen Tukoss himself, for a project that would potentially yield much value.

We humbly ask you for the help. Please contact us if you are interested.

Kind regards,
Arek'Jaalan Acquisition Division


There are also lists circulating mentioning the need for the acquisition of a massive armoury, capable of annihilating not only minor colonies, but capital populations. What serves here as an example of so called transparency of the Tukoss clique ("prominent member", "for a project") should alarm everyone. The proliferation of weapons of mass destruction should not prevail on this outpost of tyranny.

The day will come when they—like others before—will send other people's children on missions of suicide and murder. They embrace tyranny and death as a cause and a creed. I invite you to stand for a different choice. Down with the Tukoss’ clique, down with defection and treason!



That request for the Aurora Ominae was mine, for the record. I wish to examine how sleeper technology had been discovered years before wormholes opened, and what aspects of the weapon are from sleepers.

I also strictly refuse to allow the superweapon into the hands of anyone who might use it in anger, or for profit. Its construction, and delivery is to be done under heavily armed guard by associates of mine in order to prevent this.

If you believe my request to be anything other than educational in nature, you can personally speak with me about it in private.

And for the record,

Public request thread:
http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1557373

Valerie Valate
Amarr
Church of The Crimson Saviour
Posted - 2011.07.29 13:31:00 - [20]
 

Originally by: Myxx
That request for the Aurora Ominae was mine, for the record. I wish to examine how sleeper technology had been discovered years before wormholes opened, and what aspects of the weapon are from sleepers.

I also strictly refuse to allow the superweapon into the hands of anyone who might use it in anger, or for profit. Its construction, and delivery is to be done under heavily armed guard by associates of mine in order to prevent this.

If you believe my request to be anything other than educational in nature, you can personally speak with me about it in private.



Sleeper technologies have been floating around in one of those Minmatar constellations for a long time, it's hardly any surprise.
Or perhaps you refer to the redesign some while back when Titans no longer had area effect but pinpoint weapons. Obviously, consulting the Federation Navy or perhaps CONCORD might have revealed some answers.

I have seen a communication, given to me by a certain Koronakesh, wherein you state you can earn over a billion isk per day, more if you "decide to put any effort in", which makes me wonder why you are seeking benefactors for this, since clearly you could afford to simply buy the relevant ORIGINAL blueprint. And indeed in the elapsed time, have constructed at least one example. Which would provide more information, since an original blueprint can have a lot more done to it than a mere copy.

Unless that was all bluff by you, which is quite possible, given your actions on the IGS and other places, such as the capsuleer recognition thing that Ms. Constantine had a while back, where you called everyone a target that must be eliminated for you to meet your goals.

So, given your attitudes, I very much doubt that such a device would be used solely for "research" by you.

Trustworthiness, you do not have it.

Odelya d'Hanguest
ZERO HEAVY INDUSTRIES
Posted - 2011.07.29 16:12:00 - [21]
 

Originally by: Myxx

I also strictly refuse to allow the superweapon into the hands of anyone who might use it in anger, or for profit. Its construction, and delivery is to be done under heavily armed guard by associates of mine in order to prevent this.
Myxx, even you should know from the history of your people that weapons of mass destruction which are used in the name of science and progress are far more dangerous than those based on anger or greed… If you wanted to calm me with this statement you have achieved the opposite. And who would those associates be? Thugs from the Cartel?

Originally by: Myxx
If you believe my request to be anything other than educational in nature, you can personally speak with me about it in private.

It is not my personal desire for information that demands satisfaction. It is the public that needs to know what is really going on! Please tell Dr. Tukoss that I still demand answers. He will be held accountable and so will you and the rest of your sinister clique.

Originally by: Valerie Valate

Sleeper technologies have been floating around in one of those Minmatar constellations for a long time, it's hardly any surprise.
Or perhaps you refer to the redesign some while back when Titans no longer had area effect but pinpoint weapons. Obviously, consulting the Federation Navy or perhaps CONCORD might have revealed some answers.

I have seen a communication, given to me by a certain Koronakesh, wherein you state you can earn over a billion isk per day, more if you "decide to put any effort in", which makes me wonder why you are seeking benefactors for this, since clearly you could afford to simply buy the relevant ORIGINAL blueprint. And indeed in the elapsed time, have constructed at least one example. Which would provide more information, since an original blueprint can have a lot more done to it than a mere copy.

Unless that was all bluff by you, which is quite possible, given your actions on the IGS and other places, such as the capsuleer recognition thing that Ms. Constantine had a while back, where you called everyone a target that must be eliminated for you to meet your goals.

So, given your attitudes, I very much doubt that such a device would be used solely for "research" by you.

Trustworthiness, you do not have it.


Finally a reasonable voice in this cacophony of concealed intentions! It all adds up to the picture. It is not about gathering the armoury but building a pool of collaborators and training it.

Lucius Vindictus
Amarr
East Khanid Trading
Khanid Trade Syndicate
Posted - 2011.07.29 17:32:00 - [22]
 

Building weapons of mass destruction now? That is disturbing news. This will only fuel more worries about the motivations behind this project.

Myxx
Atropos Group
Posted - 2011.07.29 22:19:00 - [23]
 

Edited by: Myxx on 29/07/2011 22:21:47
Originally by: Odelya d'Hanguest
Originally by: Myxx

I also strictly refuse to allow the superweapon into the hands of anyone who might use it in anger, or for profit. Its construction, and delivery is to be done under heavily armed guard by associates of mine in order to prevent this.
Myxx, even you should know from the history of your people that weapons of mass destruction which are used in the name of science and progress are far more dangerous than those based on anger or greed… If you wanted to calm me with this statement you have achieved the opposite. And who would those associates be? Thugs from the Cartel?

Originally by: Myxx
If you believe my request to be anything other than educational in nature, you can personally speak with me about it in private.

It is not my personal desire for information that demands satisfaction. It is the public that needs to know what is really going on! Please tell Dr. Tukoss that I still demand answers. He will be held accountable and so will you and the rest of your sinister clique.

Originally by: Valerie Valate

Sleeper technologies have been floating around in one of those Minmatar constellations for a long time, it's hardly any surprise.
Or perhaps you refer to the redesign some while back when Titans no longer had area effect but pinpoint weapons. Obviously, consulting the Federation Navy or perhaps CONCORD might have revealed some answers.

I have seen a communication, given to me by a certain Koronakesh, wherein you state you can earn over a billion isk per day, more if you "decide to put any effort in", which makes me wonder why you are seeking benefactors for this, since clearly you could afford to simply buy the relevant ORIGINAL blueprint. And indeed in the elapsed time, have constructed at least one example. Which would provide more information, since an original blueprint can have a lot more done to it than a mere copy.

Unless that was all bluff by you, which is quite possible, given your actions on the IGS and other places, such as the capsuleer recognition thing that Ms. Constantine had a while back, where you called everyone a target that must be eliminated for you to meet your goals.

So, given your attitudes, I very much doubt that such a device would be used solely for "research" by you.

Trustworthiness, you do not have it.


Finally a reasonable voice in this cacophony of concealed intentions! It all adds up to the picture. It is not about gathering the armoury but building a pool of collaborators and training it.


In the spirit of being exceedingly open, I'll answer this all as honestly and as openly as I can. Understand, however, I do have a lot of things going at once and so some answers might be a bit less detailed than others for the sake of other projects and the anonymity of others I deal with.

The associates that I mentioned are not of the Cartel. They're not of any main pirate or traditional faction. You're right, I could go buy an original and a functioning module if I was pressed for time. I'm not, however. One of my stated goals long ago was to eventually build everything at least once. Again, I'm not strapped for time and can pretty much do whatever I want. A lot of the cash I earn currently goes into other projects and investments.

I'll be even more blunt, I've been outright offered a BPO and a functioning module from at least two people. I declined them because I didn't anticipate either item being returned to me, nevermind any of their original owners. BPCs are being sought because they are, in effect, disposable once created. BPOs and functioning modules are a little less so to their original owners.

My associates know of of these concerns, and if they want to reveal themselves thats on them. If they don't, well.. *shrugs*


 

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