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Simca Develon
Revenent Defence Corperation
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
Posted - 2011.08.08 04:49:00 - [121]
 

Originally by: Jon Engel
Has Diana Kim got something else to say yet?


Does it really matter? She just says the same things over and over again.

As for the rest of this discussion Katrina has a point. Most capsuleers are violent by nature, and in my eyes they are being exploited by their various governments. I know I was during my time in the FDU. I joined because I had to, and I did my job because my sense of honor wouldn't allow anything less even though I was fighting against the State. Sure some will say they fight for freedom against oppression or for the little guy, but really it boils down a desire for conflict. Even, I think, from the ILF.

Josh Vermanek
Gallente
Eleutherian Guard
Posted - 2011.08.08 05:18:00 - [122]
 

Originally by: Simca Develon
Originally by: Jon Engel
Has Diana Kim got something else to say yet?


Does it really matter? She just says the same things over and over again.

As for the rest of this discussion Katrina has a point. Most capsuleers are violent by nature, and in my eyes they are being exploited by their various governments. I know I was during my time in the FDU. I joined because I had to, and I did my job because my sense of honor wouldn't allow anything less even though I was fighting against the State. Sure some will say they fight for freedom against oppression or for the little guy, but really it boils down a desire for conflict. Even, I think, from the ILF.


I think it's just a bit presumptuous to say that any organization is filled to the brim with violent psychopaths looking for blood. The STPRO, FDU, ILF, IRED, and many others, have those in their ranks that fight out of necessity, of honor, of love for their home. Don't use "We are all a bit crazy" as an excuse for madness. I rarely get pleasure in ending ones life.

Vikarion
Caldari
State Trade Consortium
Posted - 2011.08.08 06:06:00 - [123]
 

Originally by: Simca Develon
...I was fighting against the State.


Don't worry, you still are.

Altarr Orkot
Caldari
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
Posted - 2011.08.08 06:43:00 - [124]
 

Originally by: Vikarion

Don't worry, you still are.



And you still lick the jackboots of a fascist dictator. How's that working out for you?

Simca Develon
Revenent Defence Corperation
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
Posted - 2011.08.08 07:40:00 - [125]
 

Originally by: Josh Vermanek


I think it's just a bit presumptuous to say that any organization is filled to the brim with violent psychopaths looking for blood. The STPRO, FDU, ILF, IRED, and many others, have those in their ranks that fight out of necessity, of honor, of love for their home. Don't use "We are all a bit crazy" as an excuse for madness. I rarely get pleasure in ending ones life.


I don't remember saying we are all violent psychopaths. I simply said that a lot of capsuleers are somewhat violent by definition. Whatever it is you tell yourself you are fighting for is fine, but it doesn't get rid of the fact that you are fighting. Love, honor, duty, or necessity are still excuses, and regardless of whether you take pleasure in it or not at the end of the day you still end someones life. I'm just being honest about it.

Originally by: Vikarion
Don't worry, you still are.


How do you get that? Is it because I'm in I-RED or because I look too much like my father for you to believe that I am actually loyal to the State?


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