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Lostinthesofa
Posted - 2011.07.19 21:37:00 - [1]
 

Hello I have a question about mining drone yields and claculation of them
I have a hulk and got 5 t2 mining drones and drone interfacing to lvl 4 going to lvl 5
also have 2 t2 drone mining augmentor rigs.

The confusing im having atm is that i calculated my yield to be 372m3 pr min with 5 drones wich was indeed what i got until recently.last time i used them was sunday and then i was getting 372m3. now today i am getting 558m3 pr min from my drones and i cant for the life of me find out how or why.
the calculation before was 25m3*1.25*1.8*1.15*1.15= 372

now i dont mind getting 50% more yield then before, but im confused as to why i am getting this much now and if its a bug or "working as intended" anyone know?

mxzf
Minmatar
Shovel Bros
Posted - 2011.07.19 22:16:00 - [2]
 

Did you factor in travel time for the drones between you and the roid?

Lost Alt
Posted - 2011.07.19 22:23:00 - [3]
 

Edited by: Lost Alt on 19/07/2011 22:23:08
ops should have said thats how much the drones get pr cycle

astra Nosha
Posted - 2011.07.20 08:51:00 - [4]
 

Edited by: astra Nosha on 20/07/2011 08:54:21
Edited by: astra Nosha on 20/07/2011 08:52:21
Originally by: mxzf
Did you factor in travel time for the drones between you and the roid?


Do you think if they travel longer they mine more Ore? Shocked

need to send my drones from 30km away to their stones ...

oh wait ... I am sure as often the people here do: You did not read the text. You are an answering bot Rolling Eyes

@Lostinthesofa: Are you sure, your figures are correct? Can not imagin what this has caused, except a bug or you have not read the m3, but the amount maybe?

Tob Zero
Posted - 2011.07.20 09:45:00 - [5]
 

Originally by: astra Nosha
Edited by: astra Nosha on 20/07/2011 08:54:21
Edited by: astra Nosha on 20/07/2011 08:52:21
Originally by: mxzf
Did you factor in travel time for the drones between you and the roid?


Do you think if they travel longer they mine more Ore? Shocked

need to send my drones from 30km away to their stones ...
Rolling Eyes


are you really as stupid as you put yourself with that post?

of course the difference was due to travel time.
for the first numbers he was further away from the roid than he was for the second numbers. it isnt that hard to imagine....


astra Nosha
Posted - 2011.07.20 10:05:00 - [6]
 

Edited by: astra Nosha on 20/07/2011 10:10:04
Edited by: astra Nosha on 20/07/2011 10:05:46
Originally by: Tob Zero
Originally by: astra Nosha
Edited by: astra Nosha on 20/07/2011 08:54:21
Edited by: astra Nosha on 20/07/2011 08:52:21
Originally by: mxzf
Did you factor in travel time for the drones between you and the roid?


Do you think if they travel longer they mine more Ore? Shocked

need to send my drones from 30km away to their stones ...
Rolling Eyes


are you really as stupid as you put yourself with that post?

of course the difference was due to travel time.
for the first numbers he was further away from the roid than he was for the second numbers. it isnt that hard to imagine....




OK, let's try the read - think - write part, not as you, the read - write thing ;-)

The theoretically maximum output of 5x T2 Mining drones as written above is 372 m3, means no travel time!

Now he has recognized, that he has more than the theoratically possible output, i.e. 1.5x more than it should be possible, even with "NO" (!!!) travel time.

And now it's you turn to call me stupid again?!? ;-) ... but before that I would propose to you to read the first post in this thread carefully and think about it and maybe try to calculate as well ;-)

Tob Zero
Posted - 2011.07.20 10:26:00 - [7]
 

Originally by: astra Nosha
Edited by: astra Nosha on 20/07/2011 10:10:04
And now it's you turn to call me stupid again?!? ;-) ... but before that I would propose to you to read the first post in this thread carefully and think about it and maybe try to calculate as well ;-)


as fun as it is to call people stupid i have to admit that your right and due to not reading the op correct made myself post something stupid :) . i didnt calculate his nummbers and made the wrong assumtion. i appologize

astra Nosha
Posted - 2011.07.20 10:33:00 - [8]
 

nice. Didn't expect, that you would hve the character to apologize. Accepted and let's see what will be the final and correct answer ^^

... if it's a bug I need to buy me immediately a Hulk with 2x T2 Mining Drone Augmentors Very Happy

turbine2
Posted - 2011.07.20 10:58:00 - [9]
 

Originally by: Lostinthesofa
last time i used them was sunday and then i was getting 372m3. now today i am getting 558m3 pr min from my drones

Okay, the other thing I would ask is what has changed between the two time frames. Did you complete a training skill? Did you change fittings? Were you in a fleet? Did you lose some drones and replace them?

mxzf
Minmatar
Shovel Bros
Posted - 2011.07.20 13:03:00 - [10]
 

I wasn't trying to start a flame war, I just know that drone travel time is something many people forget to factor in, so that was my first guess as to a possible reason for the difference in numbers.

I agree with turbine2 though, what has changed inbetween the two mining sessions?

Also, how are you determining how much ore you're getting from the drones?

astra Nosha
Posted - 2011.07.20 15:28:00 - [11]
 

Originally by: mxzf
I wasn't trying to start a flame war, I just know that drone travel time is something many people forget to factor in, so that was my first guess as to a possible reason for the difference in numbers.



What do you think about reading the post of somebody, who is raising a question to understand why he is asking and not just guess it? It's the same like these guys asking questions which could be answered by google in 0,0034 seconds ...

Hope the lostsofa will answer sooner or later, so we may come to a conclusion what could have been the issue :-)

Lostinthesofa
Posted - 2011.07.20 19:45:00 - [12]
 

Edited by: Lostinthesofa on 20/07/2011 19:48:33
sorry for the confusion but my figures where without travel time as in i was parked on the rocks always do when i use my drones. what i meant was that is was pr trip not pr min, and my numbers are correct i tripple checked them before posting 1 drone was hauling in 93 kernite and 93*1.2 volume is 111.6.
They mined this ammount all yesterday but today they are back to 372m3 total so im guessing it was a bug

Rykuss
Gallente
Posted - 2011.07.20 23:09:00 - [13]
 

Originally by: Lostinthesofa
Edited by: Lostinthesofa on 20/07/2011 19:48:33
sorry for the confusion but my figures where without travel time as in i was parked on the rocks always do when i use my drones. what i meant was that is was pr trip not pr min, and my numbers are correct i tripple checked them before posting 1 drone was hauling in 93 kernite and 93*1.2 volume is 111.6.
They mined this ammount all yesterday but today they are back to 372m3 total so im guessing it was a bug


It's possible that the drones are depositing the ore as one of your strips are doing the same and the deposited ore of a few is being added into the amount your strip deposits into your hold. Then as you move the ore into your jetcan, hauler, the stragglers deposit their ore after. Hope that made sense. Sometimes there seem to be a couple drones that are faster than the others.

Lostinthesofa
Posted - 2011.07.21 05:14:00 - [14]
 

lol like i said i have tripple cheked the numbers when i was mining kernite with the drones i was not runing any strips and i ran only 1 drone once to make sure there was no mistake
same happend with other ores around as well so im 100% my numbers where accurate as when i dropped it into a can (the 93 kernite) it was 111,6 m3 as well. but its quite obviously a bug as its gone now lasted all day thou up until the downtime

Lostinthesofa
Posted - 2011.07.26 00:57:00 - [15]
 

the mining drone bug is back again O.o this time its 535,5m3 pr trip for my drones now again i have to say i love it but i would like ot know if anyone else is getting this bug and why its coming. this time im in a fleet with orca boost other then that everyting is the same as before

Kelmurdoch
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
Posted - 2011.07.26 02:21:00 - [16]
 

Originally by: Lostinthesofa
this time im in a fleet with orca boost other then that everyting is the same as before


Idea

If you're in a orca-boosted fleet everything is hardly the same as it was before.

(God I hope you're trolling)

Lostinthesofa
Posted - 2011.07.26 02:49:00 - [17]
 

nope ur the only one trolling i am actualy geting that ammount and the orca does not boost it.


 

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