open All Channels
seplocked EVE General Discussion
blankseplocked If you can't code....
 
This thread is older than 90 days and has been locked due to inactivity.


 
Pages: [1] 2 3 4 5 6

Author Topic

Crasniya
Gallente
Dragon's Legion of New Eden
Posted - 2011.07.19 21:10:00 - [1]
 

....you can't talk.

I've gotten pretty fed up with people in various forum posts who think they have the right to whine and moan about CCP's game design, game programming, code optimization work, etc. etc. etc. from people who obviously have no grasp of what it takes to code a game of Solitaire, much less an MMO.

Get a Bachelor's of Science in Game and Simulation Programming (That's what DeVry calls it anyways, sure other colleges have similar degrees under different names), and if you STILL have complaints... then whine and moan.

Barakkus
Posted - 2011.07.19 21:13:00 - [2]
 

I can't talk, but I can code Cool

I need to figure out how to talk now so people don't look at me with bewilderment anymore. Sad

Miilla
Minmatar
Hulkageddon Orphanage
Posted - 2011.07.19 21:14:00 - [3]
 

Edited by: Miilla on 19/07/2011 21:22:30

I can code and that includes DirectX architecture and AI and more and no you don't need a bachelors anything to do it and indeed the people we hire are actually smarter than "graduates" funnly enough. Usually Bachelors come out of university like useless cabbages in the work place (at least the one's we got from the US and UK anyway - they were too busy comparing body bits and kept on ****ing me off in my office trying to get promotions and flights of fancy around the world and acting know it all's but they knew little of reality and telling us we are making the wrong decisions for a business), come to me when you get real world experience, we only hire experienced people, and yes that usually means older people because they are far more mature than new graduates. Let the big name companies take em, they can hide in there amongst the red tape and memos.

Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
Posted - 2011.07.19 21:15:00 - [4]
 

You can't whine about the economy unless you're an economist.
You can't whine about food quality unless you're a farmer.
You can't whine about politics unless you're a politician.
Oh, wait...

daddys helper
Posted - 2011.07.19 21:16:00 - [5]
 

Originally by: Crasniya
That's what DeVry calls it anyways



lol, any point you wished to make with this post has been rendered null and void

Mag's
the united
Negative Ten.
Posted - 2011.07.19 21:17:00 - [6]
 

Originally by: Crasniya
....you can't talk.
BECAUSE OF DOOR.

Monstress
Posted - 2011.07.19 21:18:00 - [7]
 

Originally by: daddys helper
Originally by: Crasniya
That's what DeVry calls it anyways



lol, any point you wished to make with this post has been rendered null and void


Spot on.

Miilla
Minmatar
Hulkageddon Orphanage
Posted - 2011.07.19 21:18:00 - [8]
 

Originally by: Mag's
Originally by: Crasniya
....you can't talk.
BECAUSE OF DOOR.



KNOCK KNOCK...


Tippia
Caldari
Sunshine and Lollipops
Posted - 2011.07.19 21:19:00 - [9]
 

Originally by: Akita T
You can't whine about the economy unless you're an economist.
You can't whine about food quality unless you're a farmer.
You can't whine about politics unless you're a politician.
Oh, wait...
This.

You don't have to be a programmer to know when the program isn't working and when the design is off the rocker.

Barakkus
Posted - 2011.07.19 21:19:00 - [10]
 

I think this sums everything up perfectly.

Borun Tal
Minmatar
Space Pods Inc
Posted - 2011.07.19 21:20:00 - [11]
 

DeVry? You're kidding, right?

Professional developer since '90, hobbyist developer since '79, thanks. And I know exactly what trade school learnin' versus real world experience means.

Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
Posted - 2011.07.19 21:22:00 - [12]
 

Originally by: Barakkus
I think this sums everything up perfectly.

This is ever so slightly more appropriate Twisted Evil

Llambda
Space Llama Industries
Posted - 2011.07.19 21:23:00 - [13]
 

Quote:
(That's what DeVry calls it anyways,



Please visit your user settings to re-enable images.

Barakkus
Posted - 2011.07.19 21:23:00 - [14]
 

Originally by: Akita T
Originally by: Barakkus
I think this sums everything up perfectly.

This is ever so slightly more appropriate Twisted Evil


I'm more fond of this.

Kirkland Langue
Posted - 2011.07.19 21:24:00 - [15]
 

So much wrong with the OP that I almost think they are trolling.

Crasniya
Gallente
Dragon's Legion of New Eden
Posted - 2011.07.19 21:24:00 - [16]
 

Yes, I'm aware that DeVry's acceptance policy constitutes "Oh, good, you made it through the front door." Although I did get a fairly decent education in it, on top of my prior experience. I have no problem with hobbyist developers, most famous game developers today never went to school for it.

My point, is the people who can't code at ALL, shouldn't be complaining. Any of you who can code, by all means, complain away. ;)

Miilla
Minmatar
Hulkageddon Orphanage
Posted - 2011.07.19 21:25:00 - [17]
 

Edited by: Miilla on 19/07/2011 21:25:38
Originally by: Crasniya
Yes, I'm aware that DeVry's acceptance policy constitutes "Oh, good, you made it through the front door." Although I did get a fairly decent education in it, on top of my prior experience. I have no problem with hobbyist developers, most famous game developers today never went to school for it.

My point, is the people who can't code at ALL, shouldn't be complaining. Any of you who can code, by all means, complain away. ;)



They should install one of those revolving doors, see who makes it through :)

I am planning to get our front door upgraded to that, so we can filter out new hires.


Mr Kidd
Posted - 2011.07.19 21:26:00 - [18]
 

Originally by: Crasniya
....you can't talk.

I've gotten pretty fed up with people in various forum posts who think they have the right to whine and moan about CCP's game design, game programming, code optimization work, etc. etc. etc. from people who obviously have no grasp of what it takes to code a game of Solitaire, much less an MMO.

Get a Bachelor's of Science in Game and Simulation Programming (That's what DeVry calls it anyways, sure other colleges have similar degrees under different names), and if you STILL have complaints... then whine and moan.


Do you have a PhD in English? No? Then quit ****ing using it to whine. MMMkay?

Blackberry Cobbler
Posted - 2011.07.19 21:26:00 - [19]
 

Originally by: Crasniya

I've gotten pretty fed up...


Nobody cares what you've gotten fed up with.

Sorry.

Crasniya
Gallente
Dragon's Legion of New Eden
Posted - 2011.07.19 21:28:00 - [20]
 

Originally by: Miilla



They should install one of those revolving doors, see who makes it through :)

I am planning to get our front door upgraded to that, so we can filter out new hires.




+1.

Your DeVry education generally is based on how rebellious your professors are. You only learn from the professors there who completely violate their corporate policies, ignore the rules, and actually teach you stuff. :P Any of the rule-abiding professors weren't generally worth my time.

Tippia
Caldari
Sunshine and Lollipops
Posted - 2011.07.19 21:28:00 - [21]
 

Originally by: Crasniya
My point, is the people who can't code at ALL, shouldn't be complaining.
…and your point is silly. People can complain all they want since coding ability is not a prerequisite for identifying things not working properly.

stoicfaux
Gallente
Posted - 2011.07.19 21:28:00 - [22]
 

Originally by: Crasniya

Get a Bachelor's of Science in Game and Simulation Programming (That's what DeVry calls it anyways, sure other colleges have similar degrees under different names), and if you STILL have complaints... then whine and moan.


How is a BS in game programming relevant? That's like saying that someone who can change the oil in their car can complain about Automotive Engineers.

Methinks that Software Engineering, Architecture & Design, and general Management plus actual experience in said fields would be necessary minimum prerequisites before complaining was allowed.


Vyl Vit
Minmatar
Cambio Enterprises
Posted - 2011.07.19 21:29:00 - [23]
 

-.-- --- ..- / -.. --- -. .----. - / .... .- ...- . / - --- / -... ..- .. .-.. -.. / . -. --. .. -. . ... / - --- / -.- -. --- .-- / --- -. . / .. ... / -.. -.-- ... ..-. ..- -. -.-. - .. --- -. .- .-.. .-.-.- / -.-- --- ..- / -.. --- -. .----. - / .... .- ...- . / - --- / -.. . ... .. --. -. / - .... . -- / - --- / -.. .. .- --. -. --- ... . / .- -. -.. / .-. . .--. .- .. .-. / - .... . -- .-.-.- / .. / -.-. .- -. / -.-. --- -.. . --..-- / - --- --- .-.-.-

(You don't have to build engines to know one is dysfunctional. You don't have to design them to diagnose and repair them.

I can code, too.)

Miilla
Minmatar
Hulkageddon Orphanage
Posted - 2011.07.19 21:30:00 - [24]
 

Edited by: Miilla on 19/07/2011 21:30:58



Go easy on the guy, he has a Masters in Java (The coffee machine).


Elisa Vilerum
Posted - 2011.07.19 21:31:00 - [25]
 

CCP fanboy nothing to see here people move along.

Crasniya
Gallente
Dragon's Legion of New Eden
Posted - 2011.07.19 21:32:00 - [26]
 

Originally by: Miilla



Go easy on the guy, he has a Masters in Java (The coffee machine).




I like you, you're funny. C++ and C# usually. My language of choice is PHP, but it's not practical for many things, of course. I know a little Java. But coffee makes me sick.

Tyke Orlieveit
Posted - 2011.07.19 21:32:00 - [27]
 

Originally by: Crasniya
....you can't talk.

I've gotten pretty fed up with people in various forum posts who think they have the right to whine and moan about CCP's game design, game programming, code optimization work, etc. etc. etc. from people who obviously have no grasp of what it takes to code a game of Solitaire, much less an MMO.

Get a Bachelor's of Science in Game and Simulation Programming (That's what DeVry calls it anyways, sure other colleges have similar degrees under different names), and if you STILL have complaints... then whine and moan.


I can't code, but I can do customer service blindfold........

:P

Khamal Jolstien
Caldari
THORN Syndicate
BricK sQuAD.
Posted - 2011.07.19 21:34:00 - [28]
 

Originally by: Crasniya
....you can't talk.

I've gotten pretty fed up with people in various forum posts who think they have the right to whine and moan about CCP's game design, game programming, code optimization work, etc. etc. etc. from people who obviously have no grasp of what it takes to code a game of Solitaire, much less an MMO.

Get a Bachelor's of Science in Game and Simulation Programming (That's what DeVry calls it anyways, sure other colleges have similar degrees under different names), and if you STILL have complaints... then whine and moan.


Have all of those requirements, and guess what, they're all unnecessary.

All you need to do is be a paying customer to have the right to whine and moan. That's it.

Miilla
Minmatar
Hulkageddon Orphanage
Posted - 2011.07.19 21:35:00 - [29]
 

Originally by: Crasniya
Originally by: Miilla



Go easy on the guy, he has a Masters in Java (The coffee machine).




I like you, you're funny. C++ and C# usually. My language of choice is PHP, but it's not practical for many things, of course. I know a little Java. But coffee makes me sick.


Yeah I know how to weed out the real developers, tell them they have to develop the system/app in more than one lanugage, they bolt to the door thinking im crazy and everthing should be done in java. I guess he didn't want that cup of coffee. Mine now.

Crasniya
Gallente
Dragon's Legion of New Eden
Posted - 2011.07.19 21:35:00 - [30]
 

Originally by: Tyke Orlieveit
I can't code, but I can do customer service blindfold........

:P


Well, their terrible PR is a whole different matter. I'm mostly talking about the technical complaints from non-technical people who don't understand what they're asking for in many cases, or don't grasp the complexity of the fix for them.


Pages: [1] 2 3 4 5 6

This thread is older than 90 days and has been locked due to inactivity.


 


The new forums are live

Please adjust your bookmarks to https://forums.eveonline.com

These forums are archived and read-only