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Gustav Mannfred
Gallente
Die Missionrunner von heute
Posted - 2011.07.19 07:00:00 - [1]
 

Its wondering me, the PCU goes since Incarna back. Anyone know why it may can beQuestion

Dusty Meg
Posted - 2011.07.19 07:02:00 - [2]
 

Its PEAK concurrent users. so it wont change. The PCU is the highest amount of players online at a time, so this cant go down as theyve already recorded it

Johann King
Posted - 2011.07.19 07:09:00 - [3]
 

Edited by: Johann King on 19/07/2011 07:09:05
We're gonna need the geniuses in the 482(9+3) thread to decypter what OP is asking...

Gustav Mannfred
Gallente
Die Missionrunner von heute
Posted - 2011.07.19 08:00:00 - [4]
 

are it possibile, that Incarna is unliked or the Sunner, that the number of uster goes evry day back?

Renan Ruivo
Hipernova
Vera Cruz Alliance
Posted - 2011.07.19 08:05:00 - [5]
 

Edited by: Renan Ruivo on 19/07/2011 08:05:36
Linkage

Fail troll knows how to write.

Kieron VonDeux
Posted - 2011.07.19 08:19:00 - [6]
 

Originally by: Johann King
Edited by: Johann King on 19/07/2011 07:09:05
We're gonna need the geniuses in the 482(9+3) thread to decypter what OP is asking...


He is asking why the PCU has gone down since the release of Incarna.

RaTTuS
BIG
Gentlemen's Agreement
Posted - 2011.07.19 08:21:00 - [7]
 


Catheryn Martobi
Posted - 2011.07.19 09:40:00 - [8]
 

Originally by: Kieron VonDeux
Originally by: Johann King
Edited by: Johann King on 19/07/2011 07:09:05
We're gonna need the geniuses in the 482(9+3) thread to decypter what OP is asking...


He is asking why the PCU has gone down since the release of Incarna.



Right, but the PCU can't go down.

Crellion
Parental Control
Merciless.
Posted - 2011.07.19 09:43:00 - [9]
 

Originally by: Johann King
Edited by: Johann King on 19/07/2011 07:09:05
We're gonna need the geniuses in the 482(9+3) thread to decypter what OP is asking...


How can a question be desceptred? ugh

Mitchello
B O R G
Posted - 2011.07.19 10:12:00 - [10]
 

It's summer.

Move along, all is awesome.

Illwill Bill
Svea Crusaders
Posted - 2011.07.19 11:22:00 - [11]
 

Quite a few people unsubbed during the MT controversy. It'll take a while to repair the damage CCP did. If that is even possible, that is.

Oh, and it's summer.

CyberGh0st
Minmatar
Blue Republic
RvB - BLUE Republic
Posted - 2011.07.19 11:33:00 - [12]
 

Originally by: Dusty Meg
Its PEAK concurrent users. so it wont change. The PCU is the highest amount of players online at a time, so this cant go down as theyve already recorded it


PCU can't go down, but monthly PCU can, and it is going down, it is because of summer holidays.

However, the monthly PCU was going down before summer, it is weird, because the active paying subscriptions are going up. They reached an all time high this month at 375k ( note that this is in the beginning of the month ).

So in the end, the Incarna debacle netted them a substantial growth, I can only assume this is because of the player protests and the reaction of CCP. Wether CCP really takes into account the CSM and/or player protests, to the outside world it looks like they do, and so more new players join.




Gwenywell Shumuku
Posted - 2011.07.19 11:34:00 - [13]
 

Edited by: Gwenywell Shumuku on 19/07/2011 11:35:06
3 factors.

1) summer, so its low anyways
2) Incarna wasn't good enough to hold ppl on to playing, the novelty wears out after...1h? There is nothing to do, and everything else was shiny too (turrets).
3) the MT-debacle didn't help, many ppl are on a break right now, many are just skilling or skillplexing, without login on

CyberGh0st
Minmatar
Blue Republic
RvB - BLUE Republic
Posted - 2011.07.19 11:40:00 - [14]
 

Originally by: Gwenywell Shumuku
Edited by: Gwenywell Shumuku on 19/07/2011 11:35:06
3 factors.

1) summer, so its low anyways
2) Incarna wasn't good enough to hold ppl on to playing, the novelty wears out after...1h? There is nothing to do, and everything else was shiny too (turrets).
3) the MT-debacle didn't help, many ppl are on a break right now, many are just skilling or skillplexing, without login on


Yes I think you are right, my main is am also still subbed, but hardly playing, just setting skills ( and I got a 3 month payment plan ).

I think many players are just taking a bit of a distance from the game, but stay subbed, looking what CCP will be doing next.

Still they gained a substantial increass in subs. ( +10k from June to July ).


Gwenywell Shumuku
Posted - 2011.07.19 11:53:00 - [15]
 

Originally by: CyberGh0st
Originally by: Gwenywell Shumuku
Edited by: Gwenywell Shumuku on 19/07/2011 11:35:06
3 factors.

1) summer, so its low anyways
2) Incarna wasn't good enough to hold ppl on to playing, the novelty wears out after...1h? There is nothing to do, and everything else was shiny too (turrets).
3) the MT-debacle didn't help, many ppl are on a break right now, many are just skilling or skillplexing, without login on


Yes I think you are right, my main is am also still subbed, but hardly playing, just setting skills ( and I got a 3 month payment plan ).

I think many players are just taking a bit of a distance from the game, but stay subbed, looking what CCP will be doing next.

Still they gained a substantial increass in subs. ( +10k from June to July ).




Well, in some interview they did say they got a good influx of new players (trials mostly) following Incarna, and it sounds plausible. But lets look of what is left of this influx in 2-3 months, as Incarna does well as a Tutorial, but then it just stops (nothing to do in CQ for ppl who started for that).

And i think many underestimate the problem of ppl "holding out" for CCP to do something. Yes, they are still paying a sub, but they don't fill their previous roles in their corporations anymore, and that does indeed become a problem for many.
Once your Corp/Friends don't add to your gaming experience anymore, you quickly realize how boring EVE-features really are. Its no sologame you enjoy for long.

Niccolado Starwalker
Gallente
Shadow Templars
Posted - 2011.07.19 13:26:00 - [16]
 

Edited by: Niccolado Starwalker on 19/07/2011 13:26:41
Originally by: Gustav Mannfred
Its wondering me, the PCU goes since Incarna back. Anyone know why it may can beQuestion


For the last 7 years, the PCU have always gone down during summer. People are out grilling, going on vacation etc. So this is not something new. You can check statistics on www.eve-offline.net I think.


Gustav Mannfred
Gallente
Die Missionrunner von heute
Posted - 2011.07.19 13:53:00 - [17]
 

it may be better, when ccp makes the nwe turrets and CQ optional.

I know, that are holydays, but somewhere the users goes not over 42k.

OHU812
Posted - 2011.07.19 13:57:00 - [18]
 

Yes... I DOOOO love the summer excuse.

I Love Boobies
Amarr
All Hail Boobies
Posted - 2011.07.19 14:44:00 - [19]
 

I think another reason why the numbers are lower right now is because CCP did another mass banning of bots and so on. I have heard that there is plenty of griping and complaining on "certain" forums about banned accounts.

Also, even though it is summer, it is unusual for the numbers to drop this much. I have been playing for going on 6 years now, and I don't remember the summer's numbers dropping this much in the past. It's probably the combination of the Incarna fiasco, the banning of bots, and the summer time things people do in my opinion.

Vincent Athena
Posted - 2011.07.19 16:44:00 - [20]
 

Is there actually numerical data available somewhere on pcu and subscriber count? I know of

http://eve-offline.net/?server=tranquility


But that is not a table of numbers, its a plot, and says nothing about the number of subscribers.

CyberGh0st
Minmatar
Blue Republic
RvB - BLUE Republic
Posted - 2011.07.19 20:33:00 - [21]
 

You can check my site MMOData.net

I just received the latest numbers from CCP and will update soon.

What I can tell you right now is that they increased subs to 375k on July 1, from 366k on June 1.
( these numbers are active paying accounts and so does not include trials )

Tippia
Caldari
Sunshine and Lollipops
Posted - 2011.07.19 20:57:00 - [22]
 

Edited by: Tippia on 19/07/2011 20:58:04
Originally by: RaTTuS
Summer variance?
Originally by: Mitchello
It's summer.
Originally by: Illwill Bill
Oh, and it's summer.
Originally by: Gwenywell Shumuku
1) summer, so its low anyways
Originally by: OHU812
Yes... I DOOOO love the summer excuse.
Just one problem: previous years have shown that the PCUs go up during the summer, most likely from a combination of summer patch releases bringing people (back) in and from people having more free time during their vacations.

So no, "summer" does not explain why we're having such low numbers if anything, it shows that they would have been even lower due to the failure of Incarna if it hadn't been for people having nothing better to do with their time.

Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
Posted - 2011.07.19 21:19:00 - [23]
 


Meryl SinGarda
Caldari
Belligerent Underpayed Tactical Team
Posted - 2011.07.19 21:34:00 - [24]
 

Edited by: Meryl SinGarda on 19/07/2011 21:34:49
Originally by: Akita T
Please visit your user settings to re-enable images.
http://img402.imageshack.us/img402/8852/evesubsvsonlinemergedun.png

Explanations.


I can't help but notice this, but it looks like the same thing happened between Tyrannis and Incursions.

Notice the large dip in between the 2 and then take a look at the dip in between Inc and CQ, and how the bar is only beginning to rise from the introduction of CQ.

And if you take a look at the trends throughout the years, one would be able to logically assume that later on in the year, we may just see a larger "triangle."

But you probably wouldn't take that into consideration, since taking ongoing information and graphs and using them to support your failed arguments at the most beneficial time is beneficial to you and the very small amount of derps that are still making the forums wet with tears.

Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
Posted - 2011.07.19 21:43:00 - [25]
 

Edited by: Akita T on 19/07/2011 21:47:06
Originally by: Meryl SinGarda
And if you take a look at the trends throughout the years

You mean, the "trend" of going from steady growth with minor fluctuations to slower overall growth with larger and larger fluctuations ?

P.S. And if you insist on "new data" - the graph had data about 2 weeks old, and the current post-CQ trend is already on the downwards slope, what you see on the graph above was most likely the high point already.

Meryl SinGarda
Caldari
Belligerent Underpayed Tactical Team
Posted - 2011.07.19 21:45:00 - [26]
 

Originally by: Akita T
Originally by: Meryl SinGarda
And if you take a look at the trends throughout the years

You mean, the "trend" of going from steady growth with minor fluctuations to slower overall growth with larger and larger fluctuations ?


Fluctuations or not, the playerbase will, presumably, continue to grow. So I guess all the raging and quitting didn't really matter. But, this was stated a few times over the course of the unholy forum rage. I've also seen many points invalidating a lot of the arguments that are still spawning redundant topics.

Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
Posted - 2011.07.19 21:49:00 - [27]
 

Edited by: Akita T on 19/07/2011 21:52:07
Originally by: Meryl SinGarda
Fluctuations or not, the playerbase will, presumably, continue to grow.

That's the problem - it's no longer a near-certainty.
In fact, it's quite likely the overall growth has stagnated, or might even start to reverse, if it hasn't already.
But you can't say for sure thanks to the ever-larger fluctuations.

P.S. And please don't even attempt to shove me in with the "waah, waah, protest over monocles and AUR, threats to quit" bunch. Especially since I held the exact opposite viewpoint in that debacle.

Tippia
Caldari
Sunshine and Lollipops
Posted - 2011.07.19 21:50:00 - [28]
 

Originally by: Meryl SinGarda
Fluctuations or not, the playerbase will, presumably, continue to grow. So I guess all the raging and quitting didn't really matter.
Of course it matters. We're almost a month out now, and Incarna completely failed to produce the patch bump one would have expected.

Kieron VonDeux
Posted - 2011.07.21 04:15:00 - [29]
 

Edited by: Kieron VonDeux on 21/07/2011 04:16:24
Originally by: Catheryn Martobi
Right, but the PCU can't go down.


The PCU record can't go down.

The PCU is the max players online between any two "normal" downtimes.

Edit: 1 PCU value per every 24hrs.


Abrazzar
Posted - 2011.07.21 04:26:00 - [30]
 

Edited by: Abrazzar on 21/07/2011 04:41:56
Originally by: Akita T
http://img402.imageshack.us/img402/8852/evesubsvsonlinemergedun.png
Explanations.

This graph shows that with the last few expansions, customer satisfaction has become increasingly unstable (or big hype with equally big disappointment) and that Apocrypha was a resounding success with no one quitting over it (or as many signing up as going away).

So it seems CCP has issues with expectation management and/or production quality since about Tyrannis.


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