open All Channels
seplocked Missions & Complexes
blankseplocked CNR+ Kids = disaster
 
This thread is older than 90 days and has been locked due to inactivity.


 
Pages: [1] 2

Author Topic

Dragonslayer Anstian
Posted - 2011.07.18 11:53:00 - [1]
 

Edited by: Dragonslayer Anstian on 18/07/2011 11:53:19
After loosing a cnr and a raven because of random afk needs due to kids, i have decided to train for some other boat for level 4 missions.

So i guess what is the next best mission ship that is cap stable and still fast and efficient ?

tengu ? nighthawk ? rattler ? dominix ?

Tau Cabalander
Posted - 2011.07.18 12:46:00 - [2]
 

Scorpion Navy Issue is essentially a Raven with more midslots.

If you do want to train for something, then I'd recommend a Tengu if you have the ISK.

Mr Kidd
Posted - 2011.07.18 12:51:00 - [3]
 

Edited by: Mr Kidd on 18/07/2011 13:32:00
Originally by: Tau Cabalander
Rattlesnake is essentially a Dominix with better tanking and more DPS.

If you do want to train for something, then I'd recommend a Tengu if you have the ISK.


Fixed.

Ooda
Posted - 2011.07.18 12:56:00 - [4]
 

Go for Scorpion or Dronedomi

Tau Cabalander
Posted - 2011.07.18 13:12:00 - [5]
 

Originally by: Mr Kidd
Originally by: Tau Cabalander
Scorpion Navy Issue is essentially a Dominix with better tanking and more DPS.

If you do want to train for something, then I'd recommend a Tengu if you have the ISK.


Fixed.

Erm... no, I think you mean the Rattlesnake.

I recommended the Navy Scorpion, as it can have a decent tank, and doesn't require any additional training, unlike the Rattlesnake.

Zoe Ardent
Posted - 2011.07.18 13:26:00 - [6]
 

Originally by: Tau Cabalander
Scorpion Navy Issue is essentially a Raven with more midslots.

If you do want to train for something, then I'd recommend a Tengu if you have the ISK.

Tengu is a really bad idea if you need to go AFK. One or two webber frig and it's bye-bye…

Plus you can't continue killing rats whithout pushing some buttons :P

Best for AFK-missions is Dominix with dual LAR or Rattlesnake.

Mr Kidd
Posted - 2011.07.18 13:32:00 - [7]
 

Edited by: Mr Kidd on 18/07/2011 13:32:21
Originally by: Tau Cabalander
Originally by: Mr Kidd
Originally by: Tau Cabalander
Rattlesnake is essentially a Dominix with better tanking and more DPS.

If you do want to train for something, then I'd recommend a Tengu if you have the ISK.


Fixed.

Erm... no, I think you mean the Rattlesnake.


I recommended the Navy Scorpion, as it can have a decent tank, and doesn't require any additional training, unlike the Rattlesnake.



Yes, I think you're right.

Vince Snetterton
Posted - 2011.07.18 13:33:00 - [8]
 

The Rattlesnake is a superb mission boat, for a couple reasons, especially in your case.

1. It can be fit with an excellent passive shield tank against everything but EM, and you did ask for a non-active tank.

2. It is a drone boat, which allows for some semi-afk missioning, as the drones will kill all attackers when drones are set to aggressive mode. This becomes a real issue though when they trigger new spawns and you are afk. Bye bye drones.

There is a third option, which all though a tad more extreme, is the most effective. I would suggest selling the kids off for medical experiments. What is more important, Eve or little monsters that cause you to lose ships?

Always remember, Eve is real.

oldmanst4r
Minmatar
oldmanst4r's Corporation
Posted - 2011.07.18 13:59:00 - [9]
 

Tengu is amazing tank wise. Plus you have great dps and speed. Pick an out of the way mission agent and have at it.


[Tengu, Slightly Afk]
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System

Pithi A-Type Small Shield Booster
Pith A-Type Photon Scattering Field
Caldari Navy Shield Boost Amplifier
Corelum C-Type 10MN Afterburner
Pith A-Type Photon Scattering Field
Gist B-Type Heat Dissipation Field

Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile

Medium Warhead Rigor Catalyst II
Medium Warhead Rigor Catalyst II
Medium Warhead Rigor Catalyst I

Tengu Defensive - Amplification Node
Tengu Electronics - Dissolution Sequencer
Tengu Engineering - Augmented Capacitor Reservoir
Tengu Offensive - Accelerated Ejection Bay
Tengu Propulsion - Fuel Catalyst

Permatanks 558 dps + 790 kinetic dps. If you want your tank to be even more insane you can splurge for the a-type booster, another amp instead of the ab, and crystals. That bumps you up to 1286 dps versus sansha and other insane numbers versus everything else. (2500 guristas etc..)

Point being you can go afk for hours and be fine.

stoicfaux
Gallente
Posted - 2011.07.18 14:29:00 - [10]
 

A 5xHML Tengu has the same firepower as a Raven. So if you can fit a Capacitor Regeneration Matrix to your Tengu if you need to perma-tank. 800 tank versus em/therm.

You can swap in a LSB II in place of the Pith if you use 3xCCC rigs and maybe a CPU module in place of the DC. 777 tank versus em/therm.


[Tengu, MSB]
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
Damage Control II

Pithum C-Type Medium Shield Booster
Photon Scattering Field II
Photon Scattering Field II
Shield Boost Amplifier II
Shield Boost Amplifier II
Republic Fleet 10MN Afterburner

Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile

Medium Bay Loading Accelerator II
Medium Warhead Flare Catalyst I
Medium Warhead Flare Catalyst I

Tengu Defensive - Amplification Node
Tengu Electronics - Dissolution Sequencer
Tengu Engineering - Capacitor Regeneration Matrix
Tengu Offensive - Accelerated Ejection Bay
Tengu Propulsion - Fuel Catalyst

Cipher Jones
Minmatar
Posted - 2011.07.18 17:09:00 - [11]
 

Tengu isn't even funny as a troll guys. OP wants to go AFK in an emergency. Discerning pilots dock tengus, not AFK them.

W/O a doubt you want a RS or SNI as they both provide a passive tank that can tank the whole mission if need be while you are AFK.

Unfortunately you cant set them up with uber DPS and uber tank at the same time, but you dont have to be set up to tank 2k incoming DPS just to go AFK for one leg of a mission.


SirusDeVirus
Posted - 2011.07.18 17:40:00 - [12]
 

Edited by: SirusDeVirus on 18/07/2011 17:41:03
I don't know why these guys are offering expensive ships as AFK'rs. Try the Drake out. Sure it requires some planning (gotta know the triggers) but done propperly it can perma tank 600 Omni DPS with TII fit.

[Drake, AFK]

7x Heavy Missile Launcher II (Scourge Fury Heavy Missile)

2x Large Shield Extender II
2x Invulnerability Field II
Photon Scattering Field II
10MN Afterburner II

Damage Control II
Shield Power Relay II
2x Power Diagnostic System II

3x Medium Core Defence Field Purger II


With Nearly 15k shields it really can take a pounding, and it is cap stable with all mods running. Personally I run mine with a

[Drake, LVL 4]

7x Heavy Missile Launcher II (Scourge Fury Heavy Missile)

2x Large Shield Extender II
3x Invulnerability Field II
10MN Afterburner II

Damage Control II
3x Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System

3x Medium Core Defence Field Purger II



only 400 DPS tank, but 500 DPS out. It can't run AB and be cap stable, but I only use the AB to either reduce incomming damage briefly and to cover long distances to gates in a reasonable time frame.

bottom line, as long as you are careful the bottom one can run any level 4 quite quickly, but not as afk as top one.

Tiel Enim
Posted - 2011.07.18 19:06:00 - [13]
 

Easiest ship in EVE to do lvl4s in. Tanks everything, perma runs the rep and does enough DPS to finish any mission.

Replace faction with T2 if/when wallet pukes. Works anyway.


[Scorpion Navy Issue, Idiot Safe]

Capacitor Power Relay II
Capacitor Power Relay II
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System

Caldari Navy X-Large Shield Booster
Caldari Navy Shield Boost Amplifier
Ballistic Deflection Field II
Ballistic Deflection Field II
Heat Dissipation Field II
Cap Recharger II
Cap Recharger II
Cap Recharger II

Cruise Missile Launcher II
Cruise Missile Launcher II
Cruise Missile Launcher II
Cruise Missile Launcher II
Cruise Missile Launcher II
Cruise Missile Launcher II
Drone Link Augmentor I

Large Capacitor Control Circuit I
Large Capacitor Control Circuit I
Large Capacitor Control Circuit I


Hammerhead II x5

Fist1
Hostile Alcoholic Commanders
Posted - 2011.07.18 19:40:00 - [14]
 

Edited by: Fist1 on 18/07/2011 19:46:52
Rattlesnake as mentioned above will be the best passive tank ship for missions. However if you want to try something different try a passive tanked Nighthawk command ship. You will unlock assault frigates, heavy assault ships, and get real close to recons getting to the command ship so its actually a nice path to follow. Some people prefer to drop the EM hardener for an AB. I leave it on and slowboat because I never read the mission details and would not know I was fighting EM rats till i warped into mission lol.


All lvl 5 skills
489 Omni tank, 618 KN/TH tank
627 DPS

[Nighthawk, New Setup 1]
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Shield Power Relay II
Shield Power Relay II

Large Shield Extender II
Large Shield Extender II
Invulnerability Field II
Invulnerability Field II
Photon Scattering Field II

Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile
Drone Link Augmentor I

Medium Core Defence Field Purger I
Medium Core Defence Field Purger I


Hobgoblin II x5

Kristan Nvar
Posted - 2011.07.18 20:12:00 - [15]
 


Run a similar fit works great but with otu all faction stuff.

Originally by: Tiel Enim
Easiest ship in EVE to do lvl4s in. Tanks everything, perma runs the rep and does enough DPS to finish any mission.

Replace faction with T2 if/when wallet pukes. Works anyway.


[Scorpion Navy Issue, Idiot Safe]

Capacitor Power Relay II
Capacitor Power Relay II
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System

Caldari Navy X-Large Shield Booster
Caldari Navy Shield Boost Amplifier
Ballistic Deflection Field II
Ballistic Deflection Field II
Heat Dissipation Field II
Cap Recharger II
Cap Recharger II
Cap Recharger II

Cruise Missile Launcher II
Cruise Missile Launcher II
Cruise Missile Launcher II
Cruise Missile Launcher II
Cruise Missile Launcher II
Cruise Missile Launcher II
Drone Link Augmentor I

Large Capacitor Control Circuit I
Large Capacitor Control Circuit I
Large Capacitor Control Circuit I


Hammerhead II x5


TheMahdi
Posted - 2011.07.18 21:20:00 - [16]
 

Or just hire a foreign live-in babysitter/maid.

Or if your male, HTFU and marry a 2nd wife to handle that.

Liva Daril
Caldari
Posted - 2011.07.19 04:52:00 - [17]
 

Edited by: Liva Daril on 19/07/2011 04:54:59
Great tips, apart from the LOLTengus.

If you have the monies get the Navy scorps for the annoying Gurista missions only. It is the best to boost sensor strength on while still retaining a passable perma tank.

Otherwise go for the afk Drake and it´s upgrade, the Nighthawk. Much easier to replace than a Navy "anything" when sh!t goes down.

Though you pay for it in training time. ugh

Aggressive Nutmeg
Posted - 2011.07.19 08:30:00 - [18]
 

Ok it's not afk but a drake solves most problems. They cost no money and the guristas perma-jam comedy is solved by packing 1000 fof's in your cargohold. You should never lose a ship. Ok I did lose one... a long time ago.

Dragonslayer Anstian
Posted - 2011.07.19 12:31:00 - [19]
 

Thanks for all the tips.

i like a lot of these options. i am leaning towards a Rattler though sentry drone 5 is annoying. i guess SNI is a drop-in for current skills.

any reason a cap stable tengu wouldn't work for afks ? is that neuts or webbing frigs ?

Dragonslayer Anstian
Posted - 2011.07.19 12:35:00 - [20]
 

Edited by: Dragonslayer Anstian on 19/07/2011 12:35:18
the reason i am leaning towards the rattler is because it opens the doors for gila and the occasional plex runs or incursions. of course, tengu would be awesome if it would work with l4 mission afks.

Lady Go Diveher
The Independent Troll Society
Posted - 2011.07.19 12:46:00 - [21]
 

I'm not sure how long you want to spend cross-training, but it takes but a couple of seconds to quit the client.

You're welcome.

stoicfaux
Gallente
Posted - 2011.07.19 12:50:00 - [22]
 

Originally by: Dragonslayer Anstian

any reason a cap stable tengu wouldn't work for afks ? is that neuts or webbing frigs ?


Webbing frigs and (Blood Raider?) neuts. And occasionally getting hung upon on asteroids or structures if you're orbiting something.


Fist1
Hostile Alcoholic Commanders
Posted - 2011.07.19 15:06:00 - [23]
 

Edited by: Fist1 on 19/07/2011 15:10:00

Originally by: Dragonslayer Anstian
Thanks for all the tips.

i like a lot of these options. i am leaning towards a Rattler though sentry drone 5 is annoying. i guess SNI is a drop-in for current skills.

any reason a cap stable tengu wouldn't work for afks ? is that neuts or webbing frigs ?
There are 2 reasons I would not want to AFK a tengu all the time.

1 Tengu's don't get drone bays worth a damn. Not without gimping your missile DPS.
2 AFK tengus are prime targets for people looking to buff their kill board with easy kills and loot your faction drop. Most mission tengu fits don't have much more than 30k EHP, and 3 throw away minmatar BS's can do that much damage in 1 shot. Yes they would have to scan you down in your mission and all that but the scan mechanics are stupid easy to use these days.


Now if your gonna only be afk for a few mins at a time then the drawbacks are not that bad on the tengu and could be worth training for. To the people worried about web frigs they are probably using small shield booster fits. if you fork out for a medium deadspace booster then you should be able to tank any lvl 4 mission thrown at you, but that will make you a juicy gank target.

stoicfaux
Gallente
Posted - 2011.07.19 16:07:00 - [24]
 

Originally by: Lady Go Diveher
but it takes but a couple of seconds to quit the client.



Oddly enough, I think that does work. Anytime I've had a disconnect in a mission, my ship seems to have warped out very quickly. I lose a few of the drones by the time I log back in and get back in the mission, but the ship is intact.

Not sure I would want to test that with a Tengu though.


Lady Go Diveher
The Independent Troll Society
Posted - 2011.07.19 16:54:00 - [25]
 

Originally by: stoicfaux
Originally by: Lady Go Diveher
but it takes but a couple of seconds to quit the client.



Oddly enough, I think that does work. Anytime I've had a disconnect in a mission, my ship seems to have warped out very quickly. I lose a few of the drones by the time I log back in and get back in the mission, but the ship is intact.


Unless it's warp scrammed, your ship aligns and warps away from NPCs the second you disconnect. If it is warp scrammed, your ship stays where it is and disappears in the normal timeframe, you do not get the extended 15minute existence in space. A Tengu warps fast .. do you'd be pretty safe.

Your best bet on wife / dog / kid / fire aggro is to simply log out. Unless it's PVP, in which case you need to tell them it is SERIOUS BUSINESS.

lou1se
Posted - 2011.07.24 11:33:00 - [26]
 

NOT what i use just thought i'd see if i could throw it together.

I give you the Perm XL Booster tengu.....

[Tengu, XL booster]
Power Diagnostic System II
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
Damage Control II

Republic Fleet 10MN Afterburner
Caldari Navy Shield Boost Amplifier
Caldari Navy Invulnerability Field
Caldari Navy Invulnerability Field
Pith A-Type Photon Scattering Field
Gist B-Type X-Large Shield Booster

Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Heavy Missile

Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I
Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I
Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I

Tengu Defensive - Amplification Node
Tengu Electronics - CPU Efficiency Gate
Tengu Propulsion - Fuel Catalyst
Tengu Offensive - Accelerated Ejection Bay
Tengu Engineering - Capacitor Regeneration Matrix


2.2k omni tank
Insane tank for everything else

Salient
Caldari
APOCALYPSE LEGION
Posted - 2011.07.24 13:24:00 - [27]
 

OR



maybe try and play with your kids instead?

Nomad Vherokic
Minmatar
Posted - 2011.07.24 13:53:00 - [28]
 

Originally by: Salient
OR



maybe try and play with your kids instead?


Who do you think he is, Gary Glitter?

Maximum Kiely
Caldari
Kiely and Son Salvage
Posted - 2011.07.26 18:48:00 - [29]
 

Originally by: Nomad Vherokic
Originally by: Salient
OR



maybe try and play with your kids instead?


Who do you think he is, Gary Glitter?


Dude!?!?! Shocked LOL

Jak Silverheart
Minmatar
Posted - 2011.07.26 20:49:00 - [30]
 

Rattlesnake and nighthawk are more of what comes to mind first. Passive fits, as you may be on a mission that has neuts, so I be a bit worried about active tank ships. Because lets face it, when they need you it WILL be on those missions and you WILL be scrammed and webbed. If something can go wrong it will go wrong.

At least with a totally passive setup you don't have worry about that. The rattlesnake will probably just be a little bit of additional training to get into, you need galentee BS I to step in and I suggest at least bringing it up to IV. The NH will be a lot more skill intensive, and it's what I fly and I have about maxed everything concerning it and enjoy flying it. But in your situation I would suggest the rattlesnake all the way, if you have to go afk and you have full room aggro and all triggers already just take off and come back with the mission cleared. If you don't have all triggers on you, i personally keep a set of T1 drones for that and just scoop in your nice T2 drones and launch the disposable T1's and let those oens do the work and probably get destroyed, you lose a couple cheap drones but you keep killing while afk. That and the cruise FoF will help out with AFKing alongside the drones, you probably be firing afk for a few minutes with the missiles.


Pages: [1] 2

This thread is older than 90 days and has been locked due to inactivity.


 


The new forums are live

Please adjust your bookmarks to https://forums.eveonline.com

These forums are archived and read-only