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Lady Spank
Amarr
In Praise Of Shadows
Posted - 2011.07.17 22:26:00 - [1]
 

Lo guys.

1st, respect what your doing in this game, hope I am never on the receiving end of it, but respect none the less.

(btw, TRILL are not in any way a Pirate Corp, and have no intention of ever being one, I just feel some people have to take up this role, and PL, although extremely ruthless, have built a substantial reputation, despite maybe a few transgressions of exploits back along, they have performed the pirate role well thus far)

Now to the anticipated advice.

First, just a little bit about me.

I am Lady Spank, CEO of the TRILL Corp. B4 this game we were a fairly large Jumpgate squad, but more relevant to this thread, we have been for the past 3.5 years, and still are today, a Half Life 2 DM squad.

We are currently ranked No.2 in the world, and have the worlds No.1 player in our ranks, aswell as 2 more of the worlds top 10. I also am part of the Leadership for the european league, HLCCL, with over 50 clans, and 600+ registered players.

ok so now to the point.

Clan TRILL, are huge, we have been the largest, probably best known clan in HLDM ever, we have 5 divisions (TRILL1 -> TRILL5), each in different classes within the HLCCL Leagues. But our size/success, has brought us many enemies, for a while, it was almost constant TRILL bashing, a term that surrounded the miriad of bs we had to put up with, just because peeople had a problem with one of our 60 members, or sometimes, just cos they had a problem with us as a whole, ostly for very little or no reasons, they slated us, made up bs about us etc.

This period bred a certain ammount of defensive paranoia, I found myself leaping to my clans defense, if only the smallest remark was made, often mis-interpreting said comment, or going way overboard in my reaction.

You guys, are falling into the same trap imho. This, whilst really has no great effect on your characters in game, does lead others to jump on the hate PL bandwagon, which in turn leaves them believing the same bs that you guys try daily to say isnt true, as because of your reaction, they believe there cant be smoke without fire.

Also you will lose respect from those that currently respect you, as simply you will be seen to be arrogant (a forced attitude when you realise that no matter what you say, noone is gonna believe you), and overly defensive in your nature.

You guys are doing what you have decided to do, you are role playing, and doing good job of it, as I say, I hope a member of TRILL doesnt fall to your indiscriminate Killing, but if they do, so be it, it is a real threat, and one we understand fully.

I have payed on 2 occassions your members, to pass through the passeri gate, and we are not a rich Corp but we understand the reality of role play, I guess it was the steep learning curve that we were on in Jumpgate that has helped us.

So the Killing without warning accusation, whilst true, has been avoidable both times for me, by contacting your members in Local, and asking the situation.

250m and 300m have been the asking prices, to allow my members through, a lot of money for our corp, but a price worth paying none the less.

So I hope you guys can take a step back, and try not to react with vicious defense everytime someone makes a comment pertaining to you, as it has the total opposite effect to the desire of a defensive reaction, it offends, and causes the original accusation, to gain weight/justification.

Anyways, this game is like ****** for me and my corp members at the moment, so no doubt we will see you guys in space, and as long as we see you first, you wont see us :) Well, not yet anyway :)

:)

/awaits the already hard developing Pro and Anti PL groups to step in, each with extreme opinions each way, and no real balance to thier views :)

Mongoloidican
Amarr
Awakened Brotherhood
The Brotherhood Alliance
Posted - 2011.07.17 22:52:00 - [2]
 

They like it when people hate them.

In fact, for some, it is a turn-on. They go out of their way to garner hate mail. I thought it was amusing during my time in PL, but really, I don't think they will care about your advice.

So long as they are beating everybody, they couldn't care less about public opinion.

Joe D'Trader
Minmatar
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
Posted - 2011.07.17 23:03:00 - [3]
 

Originally by: Mongoloidican
They like it when people hate them.

In fact, for some, it is a turn-on. They go out of their way to garner hate mail. I thought it was amusing during my time in PL, but really, I don't think they will care about your advice.

So long as they are beating everybody, they couldn't care less about public opinion.



So since they aren't beating anybody but became a blue blob then now they do care about public opinion?

Mongoloidican
Amarr
Awakened Brotherhood
The Brotherhood Alliance
Posted - 2011.07.17 23:13:00 - [4]
 

Well I can't really comment on what has happened since they left Venal the last time to go to Fountain and then back to the North. However, they had been on a trend of adding more and more bad corps, Genos being the most recent mistake. The Venal tech moon campaign, however, had almost no blues and we didn't care about anything but making the NC's life miserable. I don't even know what their goals are now that their arch-nemesis is dead and their employers own most of 0.0

Joe D'Trader
Minmatar
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
Posted - 2011.07.17 23:17:00 - [5]
 

Originally by: Mongoloidican
Well I can't really comment on what has happened since they left Venal the last time to go to Fountain and then back to the North. However, they had been on a trend of adding more and more bad corps, Genos being the most recent mistake. The Venal tech moon campaign, however, had almost no blues and we didn't care about anything but making the NC's life miserable. I don't even know what their goals are now that their arch-nemesis is dead and their employers own most of 0.0



So you are talking about PL last year? Sure they weren't too bad taking undefended POSes a year ago.

DrDevice
Gallente
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2011.07.17 23:19:00 - [6]
 

is there a tl;dr version?

as it was like tl and I dr

Tobias Sjodin
Caldari
Habitual Euthanasia
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2011.07.17 23:23:00 - [7]
 

Cool story bro.

Spurty
Caldari
V0LTA
VOLTA Corp
Posted - 2011.07.17 23:27:00 - [8]
 

HL2DM = funny game. Kill someone with an object and you get this potty sign

Headerman
Minmatar
Quovis
Shadow of xXDEATHXx
Posted - 2011.07.18 02:54:00 - [9]
 

Originally by: DrDevice
is there a tl;dr version?

as it was like tl and I dr



Sure let me paraphrase:



Originally by: Lady Spank
Lo guys.

1st, respect what your doing in this game, hope I am never on the receiving end of it, but respect none the less.

(btw, TRILL are not in any way a Pirate Corp, and have no intention of ever being one, I just feel some people have to take up this role, and PL, although extremely ruthless, have built a substantial reputation, despite maybe a few transgressions of exploits back along, they have performed the pirate role well thus far)

Now to the anticipated advice.

First, just a little bit about me.

I am Lady Spank, CEO of the TRILL Corp. B4 this game we were a fairly large Jumpgate squad, but more relevant to this thread, we have been for the past 3.5 years, and still are today, a Half Life 2 DM squad.

We are currently ranked No.2 in the world, and have the worlds No.1 player in our ranks, aswell as 2 more of the worlds top 10. I also am part of the Leadership for the european league, HLCCL, with over 50 clans, and 600+ registered players.

ok so now to the point.

Clan TRILL, are huge, we have been the largest, probably best known clan in HLDM ever, we have 5 divisions (TRILL1 -> TRILL5), each in different classes within the HLCCL Leagues. But our size/success, has brought us many enemies, for a while, it was almost constant TRILL bashing, a term that surrounded the miriad of bs we had to put up with, just because peeople had a problem with one of our 60 members, or sometimes, just cos they had a problem with us as a whole, ostly for very little or no reasons, they slated us, made up bs about us etc.

This period bred a certain ammount of defensive paranoia, I found myself leaping to my clans defense, if only the smallest remark was made, often mis-interpreting said comment, or going way overboard in my reaction.

You guys, are falling into the same trap imho. This, whilst really has no great effect on your characters in game, does lead others to jump on the hate PL bandwagon, which in turn leaves them believing the same bs that you guys try daily to say isnt true, as because of your reaction, they believe there cant be smoke without fire.

Also you will lose respect from those that currently respect you, as simply you will be seen to be arrogant (a forced attitude when you realise that no matter what you say, noone is gonna believe you), and overly defensive in your nature.

You guys are doing what you have decided to do, you are role playing, and doing good job of it, as I say, I hope a member of TRILL doesnt fall to your indiscriminate Killing, but if they do, so be it, it is a real threat, and one we understand fully.

I have payed on 2 occassions your members, to pass through the passeri gate, and we are not a rich Corp but we understand the reality of role play, I guess it was the steep learning curve that we were on in Jumpgate that has helped us.

So the Killing without warning accusation, whilst true, has been avoidable both times for me, by contacting your members in Local, and asking the situation.

250m and 300m have been the asking prices, to allow my members through, a lot of money for our corp, but a price worth paying none the less.

So I hope you guys can take a step back, and try not to react with vicious defense everytime someone makes a comment pertaining to you, as it has the total opposite effect to the desire of a defensive reaction, it offends, and causes the original accusation, to gain weight/justification.

Anyways, this game is like ****** for me and my corp members at the moment, so no doubt we will see you guys in space, and as long as we see you first, you wont see us :) Well, not yet anyway :)

:)

/awaits the already hard developing Pro and Anti PL groups to step in, each with extreme opinions each way, and no real balance to thier views :)

Orideth
Caldari
Paragon Fury
Cascade Imminent
Posted - 2011.07.18 05:08:00 - [10]
 

The tl;dr: Not to blow my own horn or anything (All the hot chicks are already doing that) but...
Originally by: Lady Spank


We are currently ranked No.2 in the world, and have the worlds No.1 player in our ranks, aswell as 2 more of the worlds top 10. I also am part of the Leadership for the european league, HLCCL, with over 50 clans, and 600+ registered players.



Clan TRILL, are huge, we have been the largest, probably best known clan in HLDM ever, we have 5 divisions (TRILL1 -> TRILL5), each in different classes within the HLCCL Leagues. But our size/success, has brought us many enemies, for a while, it was almost constant TRILL bashing, a term that surrounded the miriad of bs we had to put up with, just because peeople had a problem with one of our 60 members, or sometimes, just cos they had a problem with us as a whole, ostly for very little or no reasons, they slated us, made up bs about us etc.



Kayl Breinhar
Gallente
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2011.07.18 05:46:00 - [11]
 

Originally by: Mongoloidican
They like it when people hate them.

In fact, for some, it is a turn-on. They go out of their way to garner hate mail. I thought it was amusing during my time in PL, but really, I don't think they will care about your advice.

So long as they are beating everybody, they couldn't care less about public opinion.

CHAIRMAN PENIFSMASH DEMANDS YOUR ATTENTION. GAZE UPON HIS WORKS, YE MIGHTY, AND DESPAIR! SERIOUSLY GUYS LOOKIT!

All things considered we'd have probably still kicked bmerc, ribeye, and penif even if we'd had a crystal ball of ~what was to come~. Fighting "old PL" would be fun, but when you fight the new PL you just have to imagine obsessive guys like penif (and to a certain extent PEEVEEPEE EXPERT GUY RIBEYEJAKSOM) jerking themselves off onto printouts of good killmails and "heh-ing" at their public auth forums as they sip their Mountain Dew haughtily from a glass.

commanderchris
Caldari
Defenders of Order
BLACK-MARK
Posted - 2011.07.18 08:08:00 - [12]
 

Why pay ransom to pass through a gate... just wait it out, imo.

Ivan Ward
Gallente
Wildly Inappropriate
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2011.07.18 08:11:00 - [13]
 

TLDR; But saw something about pirates and PL. Are you saying that PL will reform as a pirate corp?

Cyzlaki
Amarr
Targeted Aggression
Posted - 2011.07.18 11:09:00 - [14]
 

>PL
>Good

Pick one.

Misanth
Amarr
RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE
Limitless Inc.
Posted - 2011.07.18 11:33:00 - [15]
 

hai2u miss Spank

I've my lederhosen on, now what?

Mr Blue
Caldari
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2011.07.18 14:09:00 - [16]
 

ZZzzzZZz...sorry what was this thread about again?

Leeroy McJenkins
Caldari
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2011.07.18 14:32:00 - [17]
 

The TLDR version (cuz I did read itRazz):

Lady Spank claims awesome, from one awesome dude to another advises PL not to let the awesome haters get to them and just focus on their awesomeness like Spank does. Also Spank's corp pays PL not to gank em as a sign of respect? Neutral

Lady Spank
Amarr
In Praise Of Shadows
Posted - 2011.07.18 14:59:00 - [18]
 

Originally by: Misanth
hai2u miss Spank

I've my lederhosen on, now what?


Report to my cabin immediately.

Kai Jyokoroi
Gallente
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2011.07.18 16:23:00 - [19]
 

Who on earth would actually read that past the first sentence or two? I played half life with an internet clan here is what I think about eve oh god be still my beating heart

Ilvari
Gallente
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2011.07.18 17:23:00 - [20]
 

Didn't read the question either but I'm sure the answer is Tengus

Misanth
Amarr
RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE
Limitless Inc.
Posted - 2011.07.18 18:30:00 - [21]
 

Originally by: Lady Spank
Originally by: Misanth
hai2u miss Spank

I've my lederhosen on, now what?


Report to my cabin immediately.


I knew that eventually something good would come out of Incarna.

Waveism
Gallente
Interstellar eXodus
BricK sQuAD.
Posted - 2011.07.18 18:50:00 - [22]
 

competitive HL2DM is this some kind of joke

Leeroy McJenkins
Caldari
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2011.07.18 19:05:00 - [23]
 

Originally by: Waveism
competitive HL2DM is this some kind of joke


I liked CS better tbh but not matches with AWP. Evil or Very Mad

penifSMASH
Caldari
ElitistOps
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2011.07.18 19:15:00 - [24]
 

Originally by: Kayl Breinhar
Originally by: Mongoloidican
They like it when people hate them.

In fact, for some, it is a turn-on. They go out of their way to garner hate mail. I thought it was amusing during my time in PL, but really, I don't think they will care about your advice.

So long as they are beating everybody, they couldn't care less about public opinion.

CHAIRMAN PENIFSMASH DEMANDS YOUR ATTENTION. GAZE UPON HIS WORKS, YE MIGHTY, AND DESPAIR! SERIOUSLY GUYS LOOKIT!

All things considered we'd have probably still kicked bmerc, ribeye, and penif even if we'd had a crystal ball of ~what was to come~. Fighting "old PL" would be fun, but when you fight the new PL you just have to imagine obsessive guys like penif (and to a certain extent PEEVEEPEE EXPERT GUY RIBEYEJAKSOM) jerking themselves off onto printouts of good killmails and "heh-ing" at their public auth forums as they sip their Mountain Dew haughtily from a glass.
sounds like I pwned you with my ESTAMEL falcon

Lady Spank
Amarr
In Praise Of Shadows
Posted - 2011.07.18 19:52:00 - [25]
 

Originally by: Waveism
competitive HL2DM is this some kind of joke


NO

Prissa
Amarr
The Unknown Bar and Pub
Posted - 2011.07.18 22:25:00 - [26]
 

Originally by: DrDevice
is there a tl;dr version?

as it was like tl and I dr


She said PL are roleplayers.

Roleplayers

MadraRuaa
Gallente
Universal Fleet Operations
Fatal Ascension
Posted - 2011.07.19 03:14:00 - [27]
 

Originally by: Ilvari
Didn't read the question either but I'm sure the answer is Tengus


I think this answers all the questions asked, I sorta read the first sentence or 2 then wish I had jumped to this one lol.

Lady Spank
Amarr
In Praise Of Shadows
Posted - 2011.07.19 03:20:00 - [28]
 

Originally by: MadraRuaa
Originally by: Ilvari
Didn't read the question either but I'm sure the answer is Tengus


I think this answers all the questions asked, I sorta read the first sentence or 2 then wish I had jumped to this one lol.


No

Tobias Sjodin
Caldari
Habitual Euthanasia
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2011.07.19 03:36:00 - [29]
 

In your avatar... are you drowning in your own BS?

Lady Spank
Amarr
In Praise Of Shadows
Posted - 2011.07.19 03:42:00 - [30]
 



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