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JitaPriceChecker2
Posted - 2011.07.24 17:31:00 - [31]
 

Edited by: JitaPriceChecker2 on 24/07/2011 17:31:27
No, soon you will be ably to buy one for aurum. Not supported.

Tore Smith
Science and Trade Institute
Posted - 2011.07.26 09:14:00 - [32]
 

Edited by: Tore Smith on 26/07/2011 09:14:48
Originally by: Killer Gandry
Originally by: Naomi Knight
just remove all of them , with 0 compensation
the owners already got rich due to this imbalanced feature...
btw most of them got it free in the first place due to stupid lottery


Just another unknowing player.

Most T2 BPO owners now spend billions of ISK to get their BPO, Most BPO's were sold to new parties and only a rare few are in the hands of those who won them in the lottery.

So those new BPO owners did the math to find out their break even point and found out that after 4 to 5 years they were going to see a return and started to plan that long ahead.
Other new owners saw the tendency of T2 BPO's rising in value and bought some in the hope that in later years they could turn a profit selling them again and in the meantime maybe sell off some BPC's copies of them.

Now let's see what elese needs to be removed then in this game.

Let's remove the last State Ravens from the game because they have just more DPS than a Navy raven or even a Golem.
Same for other rare ships obtained in some contest which prevented people who weren't in an alliance to participate.
How dare CCP force people into alliances to participate in such an event and make me pay lots of ISK to get one of those ships afterwards. That is if there are some going to be sold.


It's always the same. People see something they can't have or atleast can't have for a long long time and instead of looking to the whole picture just want that thing removed. That darn sore spot that seems soo unobtainable. Well not really unobtainable, but heck I am too lazy to try to get one and find out afterwards it takes ages to actually make a profit from them.




while i dont mind t2 bpos, your comparison with limited issue ships is really just stupid. they are, as their name suggests, limited. Selling them is a one time business.
bpos on the other hand continually produce revenue and if not stupidly lost will do so forever.

Kaelie Onren
Minmatar
Posted - 2011.07.27 06:23:00 - [33]
 

Originally by: Tore Smith

while i dont mind t2 bpos, your comparison with limited issue ships is really just stupid. they are, as their name suggests, limited. Selling them is a one time business.
bpos on the other hand continually produce revenue and if not stupidly lost will do so forever.



Continually produce revenue, yes. But so do T1 BPOs.
The amount that a T2 BPO can make is the price of the BPC copy. Either you save yourself from having to buy it in the production of your part, or you just make and sell these BPCs. It's not that bad because the price of these are controlled by people using invention to make their own BPCs.

Is it a bit of an advantage over someone who has to resort to invention or buying a BPC? Yes, a bit, but it's nowhere near the money factory that you think it is. It's advantage is almost completely nullifiable by the invention profession. If you despise them, then start an invention guild and undercut their bpc prices.

Malcanis
Caldari
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
Posted - 2011.07.27 09:33:00 - [34]
 

ITT: people whining about T2 BPOs while Technetium Moon owners are the ones creaming 90% of the profit from the T2 supply chain.


Grath Telkin
Amarr
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2011.07.27 10:26:00 - [35]
 

Originally by: Malcanis
ITT: people whining about T2 BPOs while Technetium Moon owners are the ones creaming 90% of the profit from the T2 supply chain.




Hell yea we are.

David Fightmaster
Gallente
The Black Legionnares
Fidelas Constans
Posted - 2011.07.27 16:07:00 - [36]
 

Edited by: David Fightmaster on 27/07/2011 16:08:03
Why buy a T2 BPO if doesn't hold some kind of advantage over copy/inventing? People spend billions for T2 BPOs for a reason, because of its significant advantage. Invention works just fine. T2 BPOs should be removed from the game.

Rushnik
Minmatar
Anhalter's Minions
Posted - 2011.07.27 18:22:00 - [37]
 

What does the competition regulation say to T2 BPO holdings?

Kaelie Onren
Minmatar
Posted - 2011.07.28 05:57:00 - [38]
 

Originally by: David Fightmaster
Edited by: David Fightmaster on 27/07/2011 16:08:03
Why buy a T2 BPO if doesn't hold some kind of advantage over copy/inventing? People spend billions for T2 BPOs for a reason, because of its significant advantage. Invention works just fine. T2 BPOs should be removed from the game.


Devil's Advocate:
Because of perceived worth? Razz

Can you give me a concrete example of a billion isk T2 BPO, its T2 BPC (with equiv ME and PE) prices for comparison?

Peregrine
Posted - 2011.07.28 10:26:00 - [39]
 

Edited by: Peregrine on 28/07/2011 10:58:05
HAHAHAHAHAh.

It takes 4-5 years to make enough isk after paying for the building materials to pay the BPO cost. No one IMO ownes a t2 bpo to make isk on the stuff it builds. It is an investment. At least thats how I and all the BPO owners I know think of it. Yes we make more isk then invention but they are not the printing machines your jealousy has made them out to be.

Since we are on this subject.... It took years for Chribba, Darkness and a few others to build up enough trust and reputation to be able to sucessfully run a third party service that I will never be able to have so I propose that CCP remove Third party services. Why should they have an isk printing machine and not me?

I also understand that some people are making isk buying BPO's researching them and selling copies. They are making isk out of thin air. They worked hard and spent time researching etc saved enough isk to buy a good bpo. I propose that ccp nerf bpo's so that they cannot be copied. Put an stop to all forms of isk printing.

Oh yeah!!!!! Modules should never drop. When a ship is destroyed everything should die. Why shoujld people that wait patiently and put effort into Piracy make any isk????

Mining to. Just because you can bot a few asteroids why should you be able to create isk out of thin air.

Man this could get exhaustive. In fact, how about we close the markets so people cannot buy low and sell high? Why should people be able to create isk by saving up their isk until they have enough to buy commodities and then the patience to resell them when the market improves?

this is getting fun. I love looking really stupid in forums just like the OP. No wonder he is doing it.


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