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OHU812
Posted - 2011.07.15 17:08:00 - [61]
 

Originally by: Malken
can i haz your stuff?



Why? He's a month old player. What possibly could he have in that time you would want? Think about it!

Not only did he admit his short time in game, he also admitted he failed in the playing EVE therefore more of a reason not to want whatever he aquired in the 50% of time he did play.

OP: EVE was created as a time sink in which you can't simply enter the game and become dominator of said game in the 15+/- days you actually played.

The problem I personally have with people like you is that CCP is actually beginning to listen.

You crybabies want given to you right out the shoot on your first day the same stuff that others have worked as long as 8 years to get.

You want that? WOW is down the hall on the left under the EXIT sign.

Vaibhav Udar
Posted - 2011.07.15 17:12:00 - [62]
 

Edited by: Vaibhav Udar on 15/07/2011 17:12:37
... So you're stating that, empirically, you changed the 2 server failures into 14 server failures by 'looking at it differently' and counting the Summer Update as a fail-post for it taking longer than 1 hour to change a lot of programming, alongside updates to smooth out errors that came up with changes in programming that might affect your gaming experience. That's like stating I changed the alpha level to .3 rather than .05 just because I wanted my results to look more significant compared to the population. Go take a statistics course and learn how to properly address facts and numbers and then please inform me of the statistical significance of server downtime compared to every other game, in which you make your bold claim.

Otherwise, go cry somewhere else. You'll have no pity or quarter from us for not proving any of your points and just QQing. Cry and cry, without proof or statistics that these problems no one else is having isn't from some third problem, like maybe a computer that isn't up to spec, or maybe you're trying to play the game on a level your processor can't handle?

Have you even stated you -tried- addressing the problem instead of whining and complaining? As the Heavy says when riddling you with bullets, "Cry some more!"

Rasket en Taro
Posted - 2011.07.15 17:14:00 - [63]
 

Originally by: OHU812
Originally by: Malken
can i haz your stuff?



Why? He's a month old player. What possibly could he have in that time you would want? Think about it!

Not only did he admit his short time in game, he also admitted he failed in the playing EVE therefore more of a reason not to want whatever he aquired in the 50% of time he did play.

OP: EVE was created as a time sink in which you can't simply enter the game and become dominator of said game in the 15+/- days you actually played.

The problem I personally have with people like you is that CCP is actually beginning to listen.

You crybabies want given to you right out the shoot on your first day the same stuff that others have worked as long as 8 years to get.

You want that? WOW is down the hall on the left under the EXIT sign.
No point in my entire post did I even infer tha I wanted to be no1 mr. pvp pew pew. Fail 1.

At no point did I admit to failing in Eve. I'm already dong lvl4's in a BS, which I hear is pretty good for 1 month of playing. Fail 2.

CCP are trying to listen? Have you not been reading their leaked memo's? Fail 3 and +1 for ignorant fanboy.

Again, never inffered I should be better than a vet. Fail 4. gg

Rasket en Taro
Posted - 2011.07.15 17:18:00 - [64]
 

Originally by: Vaibhav Udar
Edited by: Vaibhav Udar on 15/07/2011 17:12:37
... So you're stating that, empirically, you changed the 2 server failures into 14 server failures by 'looking at it differently' and counting the Summer Update as a fail-post for it taking longer than 1 hour to change a lot of programming, alongside updates to smooth out errors that came up with changes in programming that might affect your gaming experience. That's like stating I changed the alpha level to .3 rather than .05 just because I wanted my results to look more significant compared to the population. Go take a statistics course and learn how to properly address facts and numbers and then please inform me of the statistical significance of server downtime compared to every other game, in which you make your bold claim.

Otherwise, go cry somewhere else. You'll have no pity or quarter from us for not proving any of your points and just QQing. Cry and cry, without proof or statistics that these problems no one else is having isn't from some third problem, like maybe a computer that isn't up to spec, or maybe you're trying to play the game on a level your processor can't handle?

Have you even stated you -tried- addressing the problem instead of whining and complaining? As the Heavy says when riddling you with bullets, "Cry some more!"

http://eve-offline.net/?server=tranquility

I don't need to prove anything, I experienced it. It's not for me to prove. I know it happened. It's as if you can disprove me and then i'll resub ahaha.

Just go through the link. I'm sure if you atuall bothere to look there, you would see the 2 down time in ages is a hilarious oversight. Just look at the last 24 hours if you really want some proof.

Please fanboys, keep coming! It's making my day watching you all flop around to defend the obvious short comings of Eve and CCP.

It's a shame, Eve has so much potential. But 8-10 years old and still only potential? Says enough really.

Nyul
Gallente
Kiith Sa Mining
N E M E S I S
Posted - 2011.07.15 17:21:00 - [65]
 

Originally by: Rasket en Taro
Originally by: OHU812
Originally by: Malken
can i haz your stuff?



Why? He's a month old player. What possibly could he have in that time you would want? Think about it!

Not only did he admit his short time in game, he also admitted he failed in the playing EVE therefore more of a reason not to want whatever he aquired in the 50% of time he did play.

OP: EVE was created as a time sink in which you can't simply enter the game and become dominator of said game in the 15+/- days you actually played.

The problem I personally have with people like you is that CCP is actually beginning to listen.

You crybabies want given to you right out the shoot on your first day the same stuff that others have worked as long as 8 years to get.

You want that? WOW is down the hall on the left under the EXIT sign.
No point in my entire post did I even infer tha I wanted to be no1 mr. pvp pew pew. Fail 1.

At no point did I admit to failing in Eve. I'm already dong lvl4's in a BS, which I hear is pretty good for 1 month of playing. Fail 2.

CCP are trying to listen? Have you not been reading their leaked memo's? Fail 3 and +1 for ignorant fanboy.

Again, never inffered I should be better than a vet. Fail 4. gg


Did you read the response to those memos? The developers made a decent go of explaining them.

Blonda Mea
Muppet Ninja's
Posted - 2011.07.15 17:24:00 - [66]
 

I would ask for his stuff, but I can do without 50k isk and a badger .

Vaibhav Udar
Posted - 2011.07.15 17:24:00 - [67]
 

Edited by: Vaibhav Udar on 15/07/2011 17:25:23
Wait a minute! Oh jeez, you're crying over those very small slivers you couldn't play? I don't remember dropping at all save for the major drops, kid. You're really going to sit here and cry to me, calling me a fan-boy, for not whining when I don't get 5 mins of playtime every once in a bit?

You must -really- have no life if -that's- your major malfunction, because I see a large ratio of blue there. Won't miss you when you unsub or when school calls you back. -salutes-

Mendolus
Aurelius Federation
Posted - 2011.07.15 17:38:00 - [68]
 

Originally by: Rasket en Taro

I don't need to prove anything, I experienced it. It's not for me to prove. I know it happened. It's as if you can disprove me and then i'll resub ahaha.

Just go through the link. I'm sure if you atuall bothere to look there, you would see the 2 down time in ages is a hilarious oversight. Just look at the last 24 hours if you really want some proof.

Please fanboys, keep coming! It's making my day watching you all flop around to defend the obvious short comings of Eve and CCP.

It's a shame, Eve has so much potential. But 8-10 years old and still only potential? Says enough really.


I think EVE is not the only thing 8-10 years old here, I'd be surprised if you're a day over 10, esp. considering all your blathering is occurring in the early afternoon on a week day during the summer, mommy hasn't come home from work yet, and the sitter is busy in the other room screwing her boyfriend I take it?

Lucas Kell
Gallente
Lost Enterprises...
Posted - 2011.07.15 18:21:00 - [69]
 

Originally by: Rasket en Taro
Edited by: Rasket en Taro on 15/07/2011 17:00:30
I don't understand how anyone can dispute the time? Why would I bother to lie?

I work full time, like a lot of people, so when I do have some spare time, how I spend it is important. Don't want to waste it.

There has been Incarna, Lulzsec, Extended updates, and several crashes like this. Guess I joined at a bad time?

Whatever, it's idiotic to argue that all this down time is acceptable, and if you do you are jut another addict that CCP have by the balls.

And whoever said I just haven't given it long enough. A month should be sufficient amount of time. No game should need longer than that, or it's not doing a very good job.

*edit* No im not couting scheduled down time obviously, that's why I said unscheduled =/

And If the server goes down, comes back up, then goes back down 5 minutes later, I count that as two. Not one set of hiccups. If you do it that way, this was 14th~ time.

To be entirely honest, yes, you joined at the wrong time.
Its the time of a massive new build, Incarna, and any expansion has its shares of live server outages for fixes. As for lulzsec there was nothing more they could do about that. They took the servers off completely to ensure account seurity and they did it quickly. They should be praised for reacting so quickly unlike certain other companies out there *cough* sony *cough*.

The downtime has barely affected me, theres only been one time that I wanted to play but couldn't, and that was lulzsec time. I wouldn't judge the game so harshly over just this small period of time. If you don't feel you are getting what you paid for, fair enough, but don't think many other people will fall behind you.

Rasket en Taro
Posted - 2011.07.15 18:33:00 - [70]
 

Originally by: Mendolus
Originally by: Rasket en Taro

I don't need to prove anything, I experienced it. It's not for me to prove. I know it happened. It's as if you can disprove me and then i'll resub ahaha.

Just go through the link. I'm sure if you atuall bothere to look there, you would see the 2 down time in ages is a hilarious oversight. Just look at the last 24 hours if you really want some proof.

Please fanboys, keep coming! It's making my day watching you all flop around to defend the obvious short comings of Eve and CCP.

It's a shame, Eve has so much potential. But 8-10 years old and still only potential? Says enough really.


I think EVE is not the only thing 8-10 years old here, I'd be surprised if you're a day over 10, esp. considering all your blathering is occurring in the early afternoon on a week day during the summer, mommy hasn't come home from work yet, and the sitter is busy in the other room screwing her boyfriend I take it?


lmfao.

Man I love fanboys. Brilliant attempt to argue with me! Except, wait! No argument! Just futile, childish insults! Oh the irony. No wonder CCP make money when the attract such gullible nimmwits. Please take your remarks back to the playground kid.

I thought maybe I could provoke a discussion about the lack of a decent service from CCP. Minus a few people that quite easily prove I a right, this is what most of this thread consist of. I do hope a mod see's this a enforce's some sort of smack down. You clearly seem emotionally attached beyond an measure to this game, so hopefully that's an apt punishment for being such a tard.

Mendolus
Aurelius Federation
Posted - 2011.07.15 18:35:00 - [71]
 

Originally by: Rasket en Taro
Originally by: Mendolus
Originally by: Rasket en Taro

I don't need to prove anything, I experienced it. It's not for me to prove. I know it happened. It's as if you can disprove me and then i'll resub ahaha.

Just go through the link. I'm sure if you atuall bothere to look there, you would see the 2 down time in ages is a hilarious oversight. Just look at the last 24 hours if you really want some proof.

Please fanboys, keep coming! It's making my day watching you all flop around to defend the obvious short comings of Eve and CCP.

It's a shame, Eve has so much potential. But 8-10 years old and still only potential? Says enough really.


I think EVE is not the only thing 8-10 years old here, I'd be surprised if you're a day over 10, esp. considering all your blathering is occurring in the early afternoon on a week day during the summer, mommy hasn't come home from work yet, and the sitter is busy in the other room screwing her boyfriend I take it?


lmfao.

Man I love fanboys. Brilliant attempt to argue with me! Except, wait! No argument! Just futile, childish insults! Oh the irony. No wonder CCP make money when the attract such gullible nimmwits. Please take your remarks back to the playground kid.

I thought maybe I could provoke a discussion about the lack of a decent service from CCP. Minus a few people that quite easily prove I a right, this is what most of this thread consist of. I do hope a mod see's this a enforce's some sort of smack down. You clearly seem emotionally attached beyond an measure to this game, so hopefully that's an apt punishment for being such a tard.


You know the best part is I'm not actually reading any of your posts since the thread starter, I just like to make you dance.

Dance puppet, dance! I demand you amuse me! Very Happy

Go on, post again, we're all waiting.

Corina's Bodyguard
Posted - 2011.07.15 18:38:00 - [72]
 

The only near 24 hour dt I can think of was when the login server was DDoSed and CCP pulled the plug... and even that wasn't that long.

Vaibhav Udar
Posted - 2011.07.15 18:43:00 - [73]
 

Edited by: Vaibhav Udar on 15/07/2011 18:48:30
Edited by: Vaibhav Udar on 15/07/2011 18:45:36
Originally by: Corina's Bodyguard
The only near 24 hour dt I can think of was when the login server was DDoSed and CCP pulled the plug... and even that wasn't that long.
Only time this -actually- happened for a full 24 hours, as I recall, was during either the Incursion or PI major update, due to some issues found in database issues or something like that during the updating process. As per the ToU, players were reimbursed for the ~24 hour down time. Lulzsec, I believe, was at max 6-8 hours, which might seem like 24 hours for those who only had that window to play.

OP: Can't have a discussion about something you're just complaining about. Not like you're stating anything constructive, recommendations for fixes besides the generic cry of "Do better," or asking / providing a very general statement about your system to see if the problem is anywhere else. If you'd like discussion rather than reactions to your QQ which aims to pull in more QQers to agree with you, as your stating any opinion stating yours is inaccurate because people are 'fanboys', give people something to actually discuss and have opinions on, aye?

Zyress
Posted - 2011.07.15 18:51:00 - [74]
 

As someone else has said "so long and thanks for the fish" There is no alternative to Eve, they have no competition, if there was you may have a point, but since there isn't you just decide if this game as it is, is worth what you put into it. If not get the gtfo, otherwise forget about whining on these forums, you'll get no sympathy or support here. Calling us fanboys doesn't help, we've made our decision, grow a pair and make your own and live with it.

Cipher Jones
Minmatar
Posted - 2011.07.15 19:46:00 - [75]
 

Ill tell you what, you show me when we had a 24 hour downtime in the month you say you've been playing and I'll contract you a PLEX.

Rasket en Taro
Posted - 2011.07.15 21:04:00 - [76]
 

hahah yeah man CCP have their priorities in th right order.

http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1551631

Thank god they are on the case!

Mallak Azaria
Three 6 MaFiA
KRYSIS.
Posted - 2011.07.15 21:07:00 - [77]
 

Originally by: Rasket en Taro
I have been playing Eve for one month and about 5 days now I think.

I haven't actually been able to play about 50% of that time.

The other day I made a comment in a thread about how I probably wont be subbing for the long term because of how shoddy their servers are. Are was jumped on by many a Eve fan boy.

Please tell me, how can you still defend this insult of a games company? I have counted a total of FOURTEEN septate unscheduled down time. Some are only 5 minutes, some have been for 24 hours.

No matter how much time you have spent on this game, you are a fool to keep paying a company like this your money. This is no argument to be had. It's a shocking insult to what seems to be a loyal fan base and I pity each of you that are too addicted to stop paying for their, and all their alt accounts.

This game is poorly designed for new people, and hardly does anything to make me want to keep playing. I am a sci-fi and MMO fanatic, I wish I could love Eve. The core members maybe loyal, but new people like me will never stick around for such a shoddy run game.


Terrible post by a terrible poster.

5nake pliskan
Caldari
Posted - 2011.07.15 21:08:00 - [78]
 

obvious alt-troll is obvious

Izziee
Posted - 2011.07.15 21:24:00 - [79]
 

Edited by: Izziee on 15/07/2011 21:25:13
Originally by: Temporana
Originally by: Izziee


You're utterly clueless.

This is no argument to be had.

I've played MANY MMO's...I would say around 14-15 or so big ones.

All pay to play, and Eve IS the one with the least downtime out of all of them.



I've had downtime TWICE in the last two months, once for Incarna and once was a 10 minute server crash. Oh no!

A whole ten minutes!



Grow up you pathetic whiny child.



Thank god people like you won't be sticking around. The less of people like you the better, and being a month or so old as you are, no one gives a crap what you think, regardless if you're wrong or right, and you're wrong.


About the only thing I'd like about WIS is the potential to thump you in station. I honestly detest sh*ts like you.


Boo hoo. You detest people like me? and I'm suppose to care why exactly? You're a nobody to me, do you think I give a **** what you think? Nope, so you can go cry yourself to sleep at night, something I won't be doing. I am glad I have such an effect on random who'areyous but sadly for you, I'll forget about you once I've pressed reply.

Ranger 1
Amarr
Ranger Corp
Posted - 2011.07.15 21:29:00 - [80]
 

Originally by: 5nake pliskan
obvious alt-troll is obvious


Yep, pretty much.

Pretty clumsy in avoiding providing proof of his 24hr. downtime claim, over zealous in purposely provoking an insult contest instead of intelligent discussion, lack of sophisticated manipulation techniques.

In short, an amateur troll.

None the less, I'll give him a pity 3/10.

Kunming
Amarr
T.H.U.G L.I.F.E
Xenon-Empire
Posted - 2011.07.15 21:39:00 - [81]
 

New patch, bumpy ride..

I slap CCP for their mistakes wherever I can. But THIS, seriously? I feel the new generation is so impatient they might just die of old age right after birth..

There was someone complaining why they cant start up the server in 12 minutes.. they are PCs right so they should all load windows 98 and be done with itRolling Eyes

EVE has probably the best single shard server structure out there, go make a clan vs clan war in WOW with the numbers we see in EVE.

5nake pliskan
Caldari
Posted - 2011.07.15 21:42:00 - [82]
 

obviously the op is unfamiliar with the phrase

"GET ON THE FALCON KID, THIS PLACE IS GONNA BLOW!"

those who were there for the launch of the NGE should remember that little jem Wink

Sekhen
Majestic-5
Posted - 2011.07.15 22:27:00 - [83]
 

I have been playing from release, and in total it's just about 5-6% downtime in total.
"Ordinary" maintenance sums up to about 4.26%, and then add some extended to that of most I've recieved free extra days.

So yout point and selection of data is extremely limited. Go play on the freeway now.

Garreth Vlox
Minmatar
Obsidian Inc.
Posted - 2011.07.15 22:41:00 - [84]
 

Originally by: daddys helper
Originally by: Rasket en Taro
I have been playing Eve for one month and about 5 days now I think.

I haven't actually been able to play about 50% of that time.

The other day I made a comment in a thread about how I probably wont be subbing for the long term because of how shoddy their servers are. Are was jumped on by many a Eve fan boy.

Please tell me, how can you still defend this insult of a games company? I have counted a total of FOURTEEN septate unscheduled down time. Some are only 5 minutes, some have been for 24 hours.

No matter how much time you have spent on this game, you are a fool to keep paying a company like this your money. This is no argument to be had. It's a shocking insult to what seems to be a loyal fan base and I pity each of you that are too addicted to stop paying for their, and all their alt accounts.

This game is poorly designed for new people, and hardly does anything to make me want to keep playing. I am a sci-fi and MMO fanatic, I wish I could love Eve. The core members maybe loyal, but new people like me will never stick around for such a shoddy run game.


5 minute downtimes do not exist, its your internet connection or route to the server
24 hour downtimes do not exist, see above.

perhaps you should cancel your subscription to the internet




ROFL, you haven't been here long have you? i've seen 5 min reboots i've seen 12 hour patch days due to screwing up the server and i watched with the rest of eve last summer as they broke eve for 36 hours straight and then handed out SP as a we're sorry we broke it pay-off, stop being a fanatical fanboy and pull you head out of your ass, at least this guy has figured out he's just throwing money down the drain, you on the other hand are still buying that paper bag full of dog **** soundwave is selling.

daddys helper
Posted - 2011.07.15 23:15:00 - [85]
 

Originally by: Garreth Vlox
Originally by: daddys helper
Originally by: Rasket en Taro
I have been playing Eve for one month and about 5 days now I think.

I haven't actually been able to play about 50% of that time.

The other day I made a comment in a thread about how I probably wont be subbing for the long term because of how shoddy their servers are. Are was jumped on by many a Eve fan boy.

Please tell me, how can you still defend this insult of a games company? I have counted a total of FOURTEEN septate unscheduled down time. Some are only 5 minutes, some have been for 24 hours.

No matter how much time you have spent on this game, you are a fool to keep paying a company like this your money. This is no argument to be had. It's a shocking insult to what seems to be a loyal fan base and I pity each of you that are too addicted to stop paying for their, and all their alt accounts.

This game is poorly designed for new people, and hardly does anything to make me want to keep playing. I am a sci-fi and MMO fanatic, I wish I could love Eve. The core members maybe loyal, but new people like me will never stick around for such a shoddy run game.


5 minute downtimes do not exist, its your internet connection or route to the server
24 hour downtimes do not exist, see above.

perhaps you should cancel your subscription to the internet




ROFL, you haven't been here long have you? i've seen 5 min reboots i've seen 12 hour patch days due to screwing up the server and i watched with the rest of eve last summer as they broke eve for 36 hours straight and then handed out SP as a we're sorry we broke it pay-off, stop being a fanatical fanboy and pull you head out of your ass, at least this guy has figured out he's just throwing money down the drain, you on the other hand are still buying that paper bag full of dog **** soundwave is selling.


seeing is not understanding.
if its a 5 minute reboot you can bet your sweet ass its not a server reboot
if you want to rehash the entire history of eve downtime since the end of open beta you'll get no argument from me, but this does not apply to the last month or 2 as the op states so stop being a fanatical doomsayer and pull the bag of dog **** off your head, then perhaps you could see past your own ego

Tuggboat
Minmatar
Posted - 2011.07.15 23:21:00 - [86]
 

DDOS alt spotted

Koba Kyogen
The Concordiat
Concordiat Alliance
Posted - 2011.07.15 23:24:00 - [87]
 

Hmm, kind of true...

A year ago - the servers were fine.

I'll still take your newb stuff though.



Koba

Pesky LaRue
Brotherhood Of Fallen Angels
Etherium Cartel
Posted - 2011.07.15 23:34:00 - [88]
 

Originally by: Rasket en Taro

lmfao.

Man I love fanboys. Brilliant attempt to argue with me! Except, wait! No argument! Just futile, childish insults! Oh the irony. No wonder CCP make money when the attract such gullible nimmwits. Please take your remarks back to the playground kid.

I thought maybe I could provoke a discussion about the lack of a decent service from CCP. Minus a few people that quite easily prove I a right, this is what most of this thread consist of. I do hope a mod see's this a enforce's some sort of smack down. You clearly seem emotionally attached beyond an measure to this game, so hopefully that's an apt punishment for being such a tard.
Y'know, you keep insulting people but the reality is, anyone who doesn't agree with you is labelled a 'fan-boy' and your claims to be wanting to 'provoke a discussion' are non-sense, you just wanted to provoke an argument.

But, whatever, you're leaving, right?

Enjoy where you end up next - but, please don't take CCP up on their future 5-day reactivation passes and feel the need to come back and tell us, again, how crap the game is.

Some of us accept that EvE has problems but, you know what? there's no true alternative so I'd rather have a broken game that's kind of what I want to play, rather than no game at all.

Tau Cabalander
Posted - 2011.07.15 23:39:00 - [89]
 

Check EVE-Offline for server history.

Morganta
Posted - 2011.07.15 23:42:00 - [90]
 

Originally by: Tau Cabalander
Check EVE-Offline for server history.



eve offline is currently offline

I suppose that will get recorded as eve being down Rolling Eyes


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