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Alara IonStorm
Caldari
Posted - 2011.07.13 21:07:00 - [31]
 

Edited by: Alara IonStorm on 13/07/2011 21:09:21
Originally by: Lady Spank
How does saying Drakes are useless have anything to do with Rails?

I didn't say Drakes are useless I said not a Drake as in Caldari Ships that are not a Drake. Though it is a generalized Statement as ECM, Tengu's Hookbills and so forth are good much of the non Drake Caldari Line Up falls short.
Will Not Drake and Gallente ever be as good as Winmatar/Scorch?
I don't get where you would think I said Drakes were bad? Especially since it is clear I said not Drake as a way of refering to the Caladri Line up like how I used Scorch to refer to the Amarr Line Up.
Originally by: Lady Spank

Amarr would be worse off without Scorch so your quick implication that it in itself is as good as all Minmatar ships is short-sighted and ill-fitting. If they nerf scorch they had better do something to look at the ships as a whole.


Yes Amarr would be worse off without Scorch, my point is that Ammo pretty much runs the whole Amarr race. Minmatar can survive without Barrage or the other T2 Ammo fine but Amarr is a T2 Ammo to compete race.

Mister Smithington
Posted - 2011.07.13 21:14:00 - [32]
 

Originally by: Alara IonStorm
Edited by: Alara IonStorm on 13/07/2011 21:09:21
Originally by: Lady Spank
How does saying Drakes are useless have anything to do with Rails?

I didn't say Drakes are useless I said not a Drake as in Caldari Ships that are not a Drake. Though it is a generalized Statement as ECM, Tengu's Hookbills and so forth are good much of the non Drake Caldari Line Up falls short.
Will Not Drake and Gallente ever be as good as Winmatar/Scorch?
I don't get where you would think I said Drakes were bad? Especially since it is clear I said not Drake as a way of refering to the Caladri Line up like how I used Scorch to refer to the Amarr Line Up.
Originally by: Lady Spank

Amarr would be worse off without Scorch so your quick implication that it in itself is as good as all Minmatar ships is short-sighted and ill-fitting. If they nerf scorch they had better do something to look at the ships as a whole.


Yes Amarr would be worse off without Scorch, my point is that Ammo pretty much runs the whole Amarr race. Minmatar can survive without Barrage or the other T2 Ammo fine but Amarr is a T2 Ammo to compete race.



To a native English speaker "Will Not Drake and Gallente ever be as good as Winmatar/Scorch?" reads "Won't the Drake and Gallente ever be as good as Winmatar/Scorch?" and not "Will non-Drake Caldari ships and Gallente ever be as good as Winmatar/Scorch?"

And if you're ready to admit that Scorch ammo is the only thing keeping Amarr from being underpowered, why would you group them in with the Minmattar?

Here's a question for a dev. Will Amarr ships ever be tweaked such they they don't have to waste one of their ship bonuses to make their racial weapon system viable?

Ranka Mei
Caldari
Posted - 2011.07.13 21:17:00 - [33]
 

Edited by: Ranka Mei on 13/07/2011 21:16:41
Originally by: Alara IonStorm
I didn't say Drakes are useless I said not a Drake as in Caldari Ships that are not a Drake.

Stop posting when you're drunk; that entire sentence is pure gibberish.

Sha Dar
eXceed Inc.
Posted - 2011.07.13 21:17:00 - [34]
 

I'd tell him to get another job now before all the rest are on the market looking for one as well.

Alara IonStorm
Caldari
Posted - 2011.07.13 21:20:00 - [35]
 

Originally by: Mister Smithington
To a native English speaker "Will Not Drake and Gallente ever be as good as Winmatar/Scorch?" reads "Won't the Drake and Gallente ever be as good as Winmatar/Scorch?" and not "Will non-Drake Caldari ships and Gallente ever be as good as Winmatar/Scorch?"

Granted, maybe it is my Canadian Accent. Laughing
Originally by: Mister Smithington

And if you're ready to admit that Scorch ammo is the only thing keeping Amarr from being underpowered, why would you group them in with the Minmattar?

I am not complaining about Scorch, it helps Amarr keep up with Minmatar just fine. I just got T2 Medium Pulses and am about to Train for a Zealot. In comparison to Hybrids it is overpowered. I would like to see a fix that puts all 4 in some kind of Harmony that is inclusive to the current role of combat in EVE.
Originally by: Mister Smithington

Here's a question for a dev. Will Amarr ships ever be tweaked such they they don't have to waste one of their ship bonuses to make their racial weapon system viable?

^^^ This.

Sweet Jane Liche
Posted - 2011.07.13 21:28:00 - [36]
 

Do you have access to those TShirts?

Lady Spank
Amarr
In Praise Of Shadows
Posted - 2011.07.13 21:28:00 - [37]
 

Originally by: Alara IonStorm
Originally by: Lady Spank
Amarr would be worse off without Scorch so your quick implication that it in itself is as good as all Minmatar ships is short-sighted and ill-fitting. If they nerf scorch they had better do something to look at the ships as a whole.


Yes Amarr would be worse off without Scorch, my point is that Ammo pretty much runs the whole Amarr race. Minmatar can survive without Barrage or the other T2 Ammo fine but Amarr is a T2 Ammo to compete race.


Minmatar can survive without Barrage because they have ludicrous falloff on their standard ammo plus they are the one race that best controls range. You say that Amarr are hopeless without Scorch but in your original statement believe Scorch needs a nerf, alongside the entirety of the Minmatar ships, implying a nerf to scorch would fix Amarr. This makes no sense.

Ranka Mei
Caldari
Posted - 2011.07.13 21:28:00 - [38]
 

Edited by: Ranka Mei on 13/07/2011 21:30:17

Although I see this thread is largely trolled, I'll try and be serious here.

I would tell the dev to stop buffing 0.0 at the expense of high-sec. I would explain to him the fallacy of "Not enough peeps in low/null sec? Nerf high-sec and buff low/null sec." I would, for example, try and explain that moving all ice mining to 0.0 is a bad idea; that it only serves to make the superwealthy 0.0 Alliances even wealthier, and that the little man will never see an extra penny of it.

I would try and explain that the way to get people to 0.0 is not take something away from high-sec people, but to make it easier for them to go there (a change in the implant system, for example; or making it so you can clone-jump twice a day).

I would urge him to deal with the Russian botters and the supercaps they buy with their illegally begotten ISK to effectively rule 0.0 space.

All of this would fall on deaf ears, of course, as usual. But dammit, I would say it!

Alara IonStorm
Caldari
Posted - 2011.07.13 21:34:00 - [39]
 

Edited by: Alara IonStorm on 13/07/2011 21:36:26
Originally by: Lady Spank
Minmatar can survive without Barrage because they have ludicrous falloff on their standard ammo plus they are the one race that best controls range. You say that Amarr are hopeless without Scorch but in your original statement believe Scorch needs a nerf, alongside the entirety of the Minmatar ships, implying a nerf to scorch would fix Amarr. This makes no sense.


I know it has been misinterpreted a lot so far but I never cried Nerf at all.

I said will they(Gallente and Raildari) ever be as good as Minmatar or as good as Amarr with Scorch Ammo.

I would prefer a buff to a nerf.

Darkside007
Posted - 2011.07.13 21:37:00 - [40]
 

What were you thinking?

Florestan Bronstein
24th Imperial Crusade
Posted - 2011.07.13 21:39:00 - [41]
 

would carefully try to inquire about the dev's feelings towards Team Awesome.

further course depends on his/her answer.

Discrodia
Gallente
Symbiosis International
Moose Alliance
Posted - 2011.07.13 21:39:00 - [42]
 

Your game? Can I haz? (not really)

More likely, way to go asshats.

Mashie Saldana
Minmatar
Veto Corp
Posted - 2011.07.13 21:43:00 - [43]
 

Maybe attend a Veto meet, then you will have a few devs to talk to. I know I talked a lot of *******s (as usual) with the devs that attended the London meet two weeks ago.

Bloutok
Posted - 2011.07.13 21:55:00 - [44]
 

Hey! Fix the !$%!#@%* OVERVIEW.

Marchocias
Posted - 2011.07.13 21:58:00 - [45]
 

Originally by: Akasha Dawn Worldbreaker
I would Say. "Let's rhoshambo for T3 Battleships i get to go first."


KICKHIMINTHEBALLS!!!!

Medarr
Amarr
Ghost Festival
Naraka.
Posted - 2011.07.13 22:21:00 - [46]
 

" Can i haz your polaris? "

Cashcow Golden Goose
Posted - 2011.07.13 22:21:00 - [47]
 

"Whose name was on the bullets that got sent to your offices?"

Hendrik Tiberius
Liberal Frontier Enterprises
BricK sQuAD.
Posted - 2011.07.13 22:24:00 - [48]
 

Moin!

Nefera Sen
Posted - 2011.07.13 22:25:00 - [49]
 

Fix it.... Fix it now.

Skaz
Minmatar
Skazmanian Industries
Posted - 2011.07.13 22:26:00 - [50]
 

Hi, how about you buy me a beer?

Marquoth
Posted - 2011.07.13 22:27:00 - [51]
 

"Incarna and everything to do with it is an unmitigated disaster. Congrats."

Tiven loves Tansien
Posted - 2011.07.13 22:28:00 - [52]
 

Inappropriate comment removed. Spitfire

Cannonfodder1982
Posted - 2011.07.13 22:29:00 - [53]
 

Originally by: Mister Smithington
Originally by: Chevalleis
Let's imagine a situation: you have flown all the way to Iceland, gotten some ISK souvenirs and got urself drunken. The next day . . .

Did anyone else read up to this point and expect the sentence to end "you wake up next to a CCP dev of your choice?"


i wouldnt mind waking up next to ccp sunshine if im honest

Dee Cryptor
Posted - 2011.07.13 22:29:00 - [54]
 

Hello! now about adding content, it has to stop :P fix Eve and then think about content.

Deal

Strecs Moliko
Posted - 2011.07.13 22:30:00 - [55]
 

I think I would lead with something like "Hey man, what's up". Then maybe follow with a joke. Maybe talk about Top Gear.

Xistance
Posted - 2011.07.13 22:30:00 - [56]
 

"hello my name is Chris, just a quick call on behalf of scope.... you may find this a bit shocking but 1 in 14 children in the UK is actually disabled, thats quite an alarming number I'm sure you'll agree (then I would continue to pitch him until he signed up to scope)


Little Hairdresser
Posted - 2011.07.13 22:46:00 - [57]
 

I'd be sure to act like a totally self entitled, pedantic jerk. However since MMO forums everywhere have that covered already I would settle for my second choice, "What are you drinking? Barman: two of those please..."

Johannes Alexodia
Caldari
Posted - 2011.07.13 22:47:00 - [58]
 

Edited by: Johannes Alexodia on 13/07/2011 22:48:10
Did Hilmar and Zulu Resign in disgrace yet? Oh no.. good then we can have EA Lite continuing to run eve.

Noceur-01 Tiers
Amarr
Posted - 2011.07.13 22:49:00 - [59]
 

I met a EVE developer in Norway a week before I started with EVE, we talked about beers in a pub. I wish I already played EVE by then and that Incarna already was deployed so I could have QQed about it.

Tippia
Caldari
Sunshine and Lollipops
Posted - 2011.07.13 22:59:00 - [60]
 

The same thing I usually say when that happens…


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