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Rodj Blake
PIE Inc.
Posted - 2011.07.17 09:17:00 - [31]

Originally by: Raze Valadeus
Originally by: Rodj Blake
Originally by: Ciar Meara
Originally by: Rodj Blake
I for one will take a dim view of any Amarrian who comes to any agreement with enemy forces without appropriate authorisation.

Saving Amarrians and minmatars or any other race from Sansha abduction and God know what follows is clearly a good thing. Surely we must safe the innocents before we can save their souls.

To stand by and let all these souls be lost forever while we continue to fight eachother is a more henous crime then not shooting old enemies.

You need to take into account the fact that Sansha seem to currently be focusing on capsuleers, not planetary populations.

Are you willing to tell an Amarrian businessman living under Shakor's yoke that capsuleers need more help than him? What about those Amarrians sent to Minmatar prison camps or those Minmatars forever denied the chance of being enlightened?


With sincere respect and an understanding of your point, I would suggest that capsuleers are only the first step. If we fail to stop Nation, or allow any extended period of weakness, it is quite likely he will continue to target baseliners whenever he needs them again.

We've already made the mistakes of allowing thousands, even millions, to be taken by Nation because of our failure to respond appropriately (among other things), let us not repeat our mistakes but rather learn from them.

I'm not saying that we shouldn't fight the Sansha where they threaten the Empire. Far from it. I was assaulting the Sansha battletower in Valmu before most of the people here were qualified as pilots, and more recently I was shooting at Sansha Kuvakei in Promised Land when many of the vocal anti-Sansha people were still dithering because there might be a few pirates along the route from Yulai.

What I am saying is that fighting the Sansha is no reason to appease the Shakorites.

Aria Jenneth
Kumiho's Smile
Posted - 2011.07.17 15:04:00 - [32]

Mr. Blake:

To the degree that you base your reasoning on Kuvakei's current prioritization of capsuleer targets, my point applies to you as much as the Matari.

The Nation's strategies will include the "baseline" humans, not because they will need more soldiers, but because that is the only way to defeat us.

This is not even "just a matter of time"; it's most likely a matter of Kuvakei's satisfaction with his forces' performance against us. Once he can reliably lock down a system, it should be obvious what he intends for the local humans.

The Matari may come for their people, and you may come for theirs, but the Sansha come for both of you and have demonstrated at least a basic capability to take you if and when they see fit.

To call those of you spreading complacency at a time like this "irresponsible" is to be guilty of extreme understatement.

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