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Kirkland Langue
Posted - 2011.07.13 19:20:00 - [91]
 

I'll help the CSM out here.

The answer to all of your questions is

:money:

Tobias Sjodin
Habitual Euthanasia
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2011.07.13 20:44:00 - [92]
 

Originally by: Kirkland Langue
I'll help the CSM out here.

The answer to all of your questions is

:money:


My question was, what total assets would Kirkland Langue freely give to me?


jackaloped
Posted - 2011.07.13 22:31:00 - [93]
 

Originally by: Nerodon
Originally by: Yarrrrrhh
Originally by: Dante Marcellus
Originally by: AnzacPaul
does csm know how vanity items survive being podkilled? Cause ccp wont answer my thread :(


NAKED.

IN.

YOUR.

POD.
What about monocles?


Have you considered that maybe they are removable?
Oh and, why isn't there any up in space?

Man, I'll say it again, you're really bad at trolling.



If you are naked in your pod then your clothes and monocles stay in the station you buy them in? Do you have buy more clothes in each station then?

Galphram NefreX
Posted - 2011.07.13 23:39:00 - [94]
 

CSM's are a complete waste of time, I support the complete vote of no confidence of these people.

AnzacPaul
Perkone
Posted - 2011.07.14 00:03:00 - [95]
 

Originally by: Zey Nadar

Technically it doesn't since you can manufacture clothes anywhere..


Please look up the word technically.

Technically, the items are immersion breaking because they are able to transport between stations with no consequence.

Everything else people are making up about paying for a license, clothing is easy to make (wtf says who?) is not fact, therefore it cannot be "technical".


P42ALPHA
Gallente
Epidemic.
THE D0MINION
Posted - 2011.07.14 00:49:00 - [96]
 

The second these Nex items went on the player market, they have become a item just like any in the game. And should be treated as such.

P42ALPHA
Gallente
Epidemic.
THE D0MINION
Posted - 2011.07.14 00:54:00 - [97]
 

Originally by: Galphram NefreX
CSM's are a complete waste of time, I support the complete vote of no confidence of these people.


+1

Kirkland Langue
Posted - 2011.07.14 06:38:00 - [98]
 

Originally by: Tobias Sjodin
Originally by: Kirkland Langue
I'll help the CSM out here.

The answer to all of your questions is

:money:


My question was, what total assets would Kirkland Langue freely give to me?




I guess, since you asked so nicely, that if you were to provide me with 2 Plexes, for the purposes of reactivating my main accounts, I would be able to contract over all of my stuff - as this account has nothing plus a bunch of PI materials that are sitting on planets. The unfortunate aspect of this is that I have no plans on logging in to this account, before it expires, just to see if I received the Plexes via contracts.

TrimethylChromiumdioxide
Caldari
Infinatech
Posted - 2011.07.14 11:54:00 - [99]
 

By the logic of good trebor all non game enhancing items should be indestructible. So I'd expect to see exotic dancers or anything non enhancement related to become indestructible as well. Right?

Come to think of it, despite the fact that I disagree in principle with the entire subscription + mt model for this game and the amount of resources that have been put into the development of the ingame store (rather than into the game where historically one would expect them to be applied), the only thing I'd ever even think of buying (if I could get cq to load) would be topless exotic dancers that danced in your cq. Realistically high res full body mechanic 24/7 bouncy booby exotic dancers that your entire corp could view.

Too bad they're changing age demographics (ala $OE) and it'll never happen. Right now there's nothing desirable being added to the game. It reeks of suits making game design decisions. When that happens, it's always game over.

Em Sawa
Posted - 2011.07.14 12:01:00 - [100]
 

You are naked in your pod, and your cloths are stored in the over head compartment, therefore move from place to place with you. When pod killed your pod insurance apart of your clone cost, covers small personal items like cloths and watches etc. There are we happy now, story explanation. Can we get over it yet. P.S. CCP is a business the job is to make money and grow, get used to it.

Rrama Ratamnim
Posted - 2011.07.14 13:04:00 - [101]
 

Ok i'll be the one to repeat CCP's mantra pre-incarna

"IF ITS ON THE MARKET AND PLAYER TRADEABLE ITS DESTROYABLE"

So wtf happened to clothing?

BuckStrider
Nano-Tech Experiments
Posted - 2011.07.14 19:14:00 - [102]
 

Hey now, leave the CSM alone.

They are under alot of stress by just finding out that wormhole space is actually 'null sec' and that ABC ores actually exist there to be mined.

This has disturbed Mittens and his muppets and must be delt with first. The null sec nap monkies feel that this will cut into the the profits of thier mining bots

JamesCLK
Gallente
Posted - 2011.07.14 19:25:00 - [103]
 

Edited by: JamesCLK on 14/07/2011 19:34:34
Edited by: JamesCLK on 14/07/2011 19:32:53
I'm all for cheaper destructible NeX merchandise, for a lot of reasons. Mostly becuase this is EVE, and the universe doesn't give a flying frack about how much grief losing something expensive will cause.
Here are some arguments, C is the critisism, A is the answer:

C: Servers will have unnesscesary load due to people removing their vanity clothes every time they undock. Mad
A: If CCP had actually done anything but copy-paste the character creator to make the character recustomiser, swapping clothes wouldn't be such a frackin' hassle. For instance, if putting on clothes was as simple as standing by the mirror, opening a container and dragging the clothes onto your avatar (similar to the dead functionality of dragging a module from your hangar onto your ship [not the fitting window] to fit said module) is an easier, and less hassleful experience for those who MUST have vanity items and do not wish to risk them. Idea

C: What about the portaits then? People could buy a monocle, take the photo and resell it... YARRRR!!
A: Make the portrait photos auto update when you add time to your account as well as whenever you choose to do so (the recustomiser becomes a photo booth essentially). It even makes sense from an RP perspective (you sumbit a new passport photo when you update your liscence). Wink

C: No one will buy the cheaper, destructible items because they don't do anything! Rolling Eyes
A: The problem is that they DO do something. They are a status item - just like the 700$ sparkle poney tigers from WoW. CCP is underestimating just how attractive that kind of thing is to a lot of players. So here is another question, will I be refunded my 100$ Ishukone Watch Scorpion if it gets blown up? Laughing

C: ARGH! My PLEX market! Evil or Very Mad
A: Statistically, the vast majority of PLEX sell orders are in the quantity range of 1-2, which hints at that most people buy 2 PLEX, and either spend 1 on themselves (adding time to their account), and sell the other - or sell both. Sure, PLEX prices might go up a bit, but CCP will not let it get out of hand. And it WILL eventually stabilise again (I for one think that 360 million isk for a month's gametime is a bargain, and I'm not exactly the biggest ISK maker in the world). ugh

For all arguments, there is a counter - until a certain pyramid invalidates said argument. Confused

Back on topic...
About time that another [Republic Fleet] Fireside(tail) Chat landed on grid.

I'm excited to hear about the Unified Service Layer (USL), and especially if it's going to be EVE Gate exclusive (would give people a propper reason to use the damn thing), especially if it would let the user change skills out of game (changeing skills from your smartphone would be the most useful thing ever).

Meeting minutes were, as always, the highlight of the month for me - lots of cool stuff. 0.0 really does need a revamp.

Footnote: I'd love to see Trebor play devil's advocate on this. Embarassed

Chandler Urandom
Native Freshfood
Posted - 2011.07.14 19:54:00 - [104]
 

Originally by: Trebor Daehdoow
Edited by: Trebor Daehdoow on 12/07/2011 16:32:08
Given the events of recent days[...]


What has happened now? Been on vacation, so haven't been able to keep up. Anyone?

Mara Rinn
Posted - 2011.07.14 20:48:00 - [105]
 

I'll be tuning in just to hear Mittani opening his mouth to speak about stuff he doesn't understand, watching the idiotic ideas of this CSM in horror as display their total lack of understanding of the game.

One sentence on how lowsec needs more attention, then the rest of the Summit spent on displaying total lack of economic sensibility rabbiting on about super veldspar and removing ABC from WH to boost nullsec industry?

Do any of the people on the CSM engage in any form of industry?

Kerrisone
Posted - 2011.07.14 23:55:00 - [106]
 

Originally by: Mara Rinn
I'll be tuning in just to hear Mittani opening his mouth to speak about stuff he doesn't understand, watching the idiotic ideas of this CSM in horror as display their total lack of understanding of the game.

One sentence on how lowsec needs more attention, then the rest of the Summit spent on displaying total lack of economic sensibility rabbiting on about super veldspar and removing ABC from WH to boost nullsec industry?

Do any of the people on the CSM engage in any form of industry?



It isn't just about nullsec industry but making it so nullsec is it's own special independent 'game' in EVE and eventually we'll all be punished for not running out there through nerfs. Not working to make it more attractive or leave it as it is for those that want that kind of gameplay but nerf other parts of the game so null is the only place to do X,Y,Z.



dexington
Caldari
Baconoration
Posted - 2011.07.15 01:50:00 - [107]
 

Originally by: Kerrisone
Originally by: Mara Rinn
I'll be tuning in just to hear Mittani opening his mouth to speak about stuff he doesn't understand, watching the idiotic ideas of this CSM in horror as display their total lack of understanding of the game.

One sentence on how lowsec needs more attention, then the rest of the Summit spent on displaying total lack of economic sensibility rabbiting on about super veldspar and removing ABC from WH to boost nullsec industry?

Do any of the people on the CSM engage in any form of industry?



It isn't just about nullsec industry but making it so nullsec is it's own special independent 'game' in EVE and eventually we'll all be punished for not running out there through nerfs. Not working to make it more attractive or leave it as it is for those that want that kind of gameplay but nerf other parts of the game so null is the only place to do X,Y,Z.


sad but true

Koba Kyogen
The Concordiat
Concordiat Alliance
Posted - 2011.07.15 04:53:00 - [108]
 

Originally by: Trebor Daehdoow
Originally by: Yarrrrrhh
You wrote that in school and it does not apply to the topic at hand. You have no clue about this.

I wrote that based on the experience of running a website using the model, a website that is still around and quite nicely profitable. And sorry to disappoint you, but not only was I not in school when I wrote it, but I had the benefit of 20 years of experience doing marginally relevant things like writing computer games and helping to create the Anime market in the US.

Bottom line: you are entitled to your opinion, but until you lay down some facts to support them, they are unlikely to convince anyone.


You, sir, are a raging SOE tool.

I wish you much misfortune.



Koba

Rosa Cardenalis
Posted - 2011.07.15 04:57:00 - [109]
 

Nex clothes are fully destructable. Nex manufacturers however, understand the dangers that pod pilots face and when you buy them you get two sets. One for your current clone and one for your medical bay one.

When you get podded you get to claim an new replacement from the manufacturer, and that has to be shipped out at considerable cost and thats why the damn things are so expensive you are actually buying a lifetime's supply!

Implant manufacturers do not do it because the cost of a single implant would make it prohibative.

They don't show on the killmail because nothing on the podkill shows. But rest assured PVPers when you pop that pod you definately scortched that guys skirt!

AnzacPaul
Perkone
Posted - 2011.07.15 10:32:00 - [110]
 

Originally by: Rosa Cardenalis
Nex clothes are fully destructable. Nex manufacturers however, understand the dangers that pod pilots face and when you buy them you get two sets. One for your current clone and one for your medical bay one.

When you get podded you get to claim an new replacement from the manufacturer, and that has to be shipped out at considerable cost and thats why the damn things are so expensive you are actually buying a lifetime's supply!

Implant manufacturers do not do it because the cost of a single implant would make it prohibative.

They don't show on the killmail because nothing on the podkill shows. But rest assured PVPers when you pop that pod you definately scortched that guys skirt!



Can I get a link to back this up as something beside an idea you came up with please?

Ciar Meara
Amarr
Virtus Vindice
Posted - 2011.07.15 13:02:00 - [111]
 

Edited by: Ciar Meara on 15/07/2011 13:05:51
Originally by: Trebor Daehdoow

I wrote that based on the experience of running a website using the model, a website that is still around and quite nicely profitable. And sorry to disappoint you, but not only was I not in school when I wrote it, but I had the benefit of 20 years of experience doing marginally relevant things like writing computer games and helping to create the Anime market in the US.

Bottom line: you are entitled to your opinion, but until you lay down some facts to support them, they are unlikely to convince anyone.


Really Trebor at what point exactly did you think that was even a little relevant. Lots of us have done "meaningfull" things in their lives, perhaps even more meaningfull then "writing computer games and helping to create the Anime market in the US".Laughing

Who knows some people here work for NATO or the EU, fund cancerresearch or even work at hospitals. Its time to get of your high horse that's actually a small pony from up here and get to grips with the fact that you need to do more then just rehash PR info. This goes for the rest of the CSM also.

Everything in eve can be destroyed, even nex items when they are in the hangar of your ship, thus they should also be destroyed when you lose your pod/ship and are wearing them.

0.0 isn't the most important thing in eve, it has become the most important thing because all the rest is broken with skewed reward/risk ratio's. We need to balance the whole of eve not just 0.0.

For instance:

Faction Warfare

Mining (get a decent mechanic, like reynir's 'deep sea trawling'/fishing idea)

Mission running (there has been some input on that front)






AllYourBaseAre BelongToUs
Posted - 2011.07.15 15:31:00 - [112]
 

Why was this stickied?

Kerrisone
Posted - 2011.07.15 16:33:00 - [113]
 

Originally by: Rosa Cardenalis
Nex clothes are fully destructable. Nex manufacturers however, understand the dangers that pod pilots face and when you buy them you get two sets. One for your current clone and one for your medical bay one.

When you get podded you get to claim an new replacement from the manufacturer, and that has to be shipped out at considerable cost and thats why the damn things are so expensive you are actually buying a lifetime's supply!

Implant manufacturers do not do it because the cost of a single implant would make it prohibative.

They don't show on the killmail because nothing on the podkill shows. But rest assured PVPers when you pop that pod you definately scortched that guys skirt!


You weren't aware that you get more than one set? Whenever you die your clone wakes up with the clothes not just once.

You also aren't aware that some implants actually are cheaper than nex clothing items. Then if you ran the total cost for a full outfit, shirt, jacket, boots, accessory etc it could easily be more than the implant cost.

CCP: It is nanobots!
What about implants?
CCP: Nanobots can't do implants!
What about monocles?
CCP: Those are different being that they go in your eye and cost so much cause you wouldn't want some cheap POS in your head like an implant that costs only a few dozen isk like inside your brain man!
Right. Rolling Eyes


The Mittani
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2011.07.16 06:46:00 - [114]
 

i don't really give a **** about vanity items being destructible or not, sorry~

Jonathan Ferguson
JC Ferguson and Son Ltd
Ferguson Alliance
Posted - 2011.07.16 08:01:00 - [115]
 

My questions are:

Since Mittens is a goon and Touborg is a goon (and both spies to boot,) why doesn't that clear conflict of interest raise all kinds of warning flags with CCP?

Why is this council so deferential to Alex? He gets drunk, throws up, insults people, makes silly recommendations (such as the wh nerf,) makes it clear he has no interest in the game or the playerbase as a whole, only the interests of his alliance, and acts like he's the smartest guy in the room. (Please tell me he's not the smartest guy in the room.) Am I missing something?

What's being done about bots? If CCP has no plans to get rid of bots, could I please have a 'bot' button/module so that I can passively earn say 50M ISK/hr without doing anything? I don't think that would be very difficult to program, correct me if I'm wrong.

Those are enough questions, I guess. Obviously you're incapable of getting CCP to devote any more than the pitiful trickle of resources they devote to Internet Spaceships now so I take it that finished content is out, optional Incarna is out, a firm commitment on microtransactions is out, an apology from Hilmar is out ... trying to think of something constructive you guys have accomplished or might conceivably accomplish in the next 6 months ... nope, I guess there's nothing.

The Mittani
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2011.07.16 08:30:00 - [116]
 

Originally by: Jonathan Ferguson
My questions are:

Since Mittens is a goon and Touborg is a goon (and both spies to boot,) why doesn't that clear conflict of interest raise all kinds of warning flags with CCP?

Why is this council so deferential to Alex? He gets drunk, throws up, insults people, makes silly recommendations (such as the wh nerf,) makes it clear he has no interest in the game or the playerbase as a whole, only the interests of his alliance, and acts like he's the smartest guy in the room. (Please tell me he's not the smartest guy in the room.) Am I missing something?

What's being done about bots? If CCP has no plans to get rid of bots, could I please have a 'bot' button/module so that I can passively earn say 50M ISK/hr without doing anything? I don't think that would be very difficult to program, correct me if I'm wrong.

Those are enough questions, I guess. Obviously you're incapable of getting CCP to devote any more than the pitiful trickle of resources they devote to Internet Spaceships now so I take it that finished content is out, optional Incarna is out, a firm commitment on microtransactions is out, an apology from Hilmar is out ... trying to think of something constructive you guys have accomplished or might conceivably accomplish in the next 6 months ... nope, I guess there's nothing.


excuse me, i don't throw up X(

AnzacPaul
Perkone
Posted - 2011.07.16 08:41:00 - [117]
 

Originally by: The Mittani
i don't really give a **** about vanity items being destructible or not, sorry~


Cool story bro.

Ricochet Creed
Royal Amarr Institute
Posted - 2011.07.16 13:12:00 - [118]
 

Originally by: The Mittani
i don't really give a **** about vanity items being destructible or not, sorry~


Weren't you voted in to represent the players? Or was that a lie so you could just get the game just the way YOU wanted it?

Are you really this big a douchebag in real life? Or just on the internet? Wow what an as shole.

JamesCLK
Gallente
Posted - 2011.07.16 14:34:00 - [119]
 

Edited by: JamesCLK on 16/07/2011 14:33:59
Originally by: The Mittani
i don't really give a **** about vanity items being destructible or not, sorry~


I love you too Mittens! Razz


BuckStrider
Nano-Tech Experiments
Posted - 2011.07.16 16:16:00 - [120]
 

Originally by: Ricochet Creed
Originally by: The Mittani
i don't really give a **** about vanity items being destructible or not, sorry~


Weren't you voted in to represent the players? Or was that a lie so you could just get the game just the way YOU wanted it?

Are you really this big a douchebag in real life? Or just on the internet? Wow what an as shole.


You better watch it, or Mittens will get all rage(y) and accuse you of being part of The Tea Party or some vast right-wing conspiracy that threatens to take down his serious interwebs spaceship empire.

But then again, comments like his are what happens when you vote in a 'Man-Child'


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