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Twilight Runner
Posted - 2011.07.11 15:07:00 - [1]
 

Edited by: Twilight Runner on 11/07/2011 15:08:44
Linky to eurogamer article

Cipher Jones
Minmatar
Posted - 2011.07.11 15:10:00 - [2]
 

So that explains why they didn't use XBox.

Cashcow Golden Goose
Posted - 2011.07.11 15:12:00 - [3]
 

Edited by: Cashcow Golden Goose on 11/07/2011 15:13:04
How come everything that comes out of Hilmar's mouth in the last month just feels like the embodiement of pure unchecked greed and evil?

Can anybody feel any good still in him?

Tippia
Caldari
Sunshine and Lollipops
Posted - 2011.07.11 15:17:00 - [4]
 

“What, exactly, you'll be able to spend your virtual money on is yet to be decided.”

Oh dear. That rather sounds like a core design decision that should be made pretty early on, don't you think? I hope that this is more a case of the reporter not knowing than CCP — that it has yet to be revealed rather than decided. Neutral

Simetraz
Posted - 2011.07.11 15:17:00 - [5]
 

Good.

Better to charge DUST players then to use the money from EVE.

Yes I know EVE money was used to develop DUST
but if DUST as a game doesn't show a profit then the money has to come from somewhere.

Don't complain, hope it is the biggest hit of the year and CCP gets a huge influx of new cash.



Blacksquirrel
Posted - 2011.07.11 15:21:00 - [6]
 

Originally by: Simetraz
Good.

Better to charge DUST players then to use the money from EVE.

Yes I know EVE money was used to develop DUST
but if DUST as a game doesn't show a profit then the money has to come from somewhere.

Don't complain, hope it is the biggest hit of the year and CCP gets a huge influx of new cash.



What you mean to tell me you paid a corporation and they used (Now their money) to further develope other things besides just the product you just bought?!!!

****ing outrageous!!!

From now on gaming companies can only use money from a single game for profit or for that game... NO OTHER TITLES!!! Everyone starts anew.

Tutskii
Posted - 2011.07.11 15:21:00 - [7]
 

Its less ******ed than the price they have listed for pre orders in best buy:

http://www.bestbuy.ca/en-CA/product/dust-514-playstation-3/10172011.aspx

It still seems a bit on the high side for a MT based game, but at least they mention the possibility of it being free to play.

This is the sort of game where I think they should give it away for free (if they make their money off MT's) to even give it a chance of surviving as console gamers are very hostile to performance mt's in multiplayer games to put it kindly.

And it has.. a lot of quality pay once, play forever competition with actual well known brands, etc.

Neqa'el Uphir
Amarr
PORTAL KOMBAT
Posted - 2011.07.11 15:27:00 - [8]
 

Well, this explains everthing lolo CCP

Essentially a F2P/P2W FPS on the consoles, cause this outdated crap doesnt stand a chance at the 60$ pricetag.

Microtransactions for the PS3 crowd then are transformed into the ingame currency - AURum, and console ppl can then buy all sorts of cool and not so cool costumes, pay up for reinforcements, upgrades, vehicles and other deployables (which cost money in RANKED matches, i.e. the ones that are actually connected to EVE (contracted work clearing planets etc, as there surely will be a standard TDM option available for practice, when u are bored or have no clan/guild and no EVE contracts from capsuleers at the time).

But console ppl have another source of ingame income other than their wallets.. as contracts from EVE TO DUST are paid in AURum, arent they? Dolars -> GTC -> PLEX -> AUR -> PAY to get a planet cleaned up. Yo dawg, we put a currency in your currency. Also tied up to the SOV system? Welcome to the world of .. nOONE cares about 0.0 and everyone is in high sec (the whole 20 000 ppl).

So we can expect EVE to go officially Free to Play shortly after Xmas?

Also - loool 3 month expansion period loool thats gonna be what? 1 new gun, 2 new hats, 3 new pairs of boots and 6 new bugs? Cause given CCPs track record on EVE expansions it can be much more than that.

Good job Helmarrrrrrrrrrr and friends, good job indeed.

Twilight Runner
Posted - 2011.07.11 15:27:00 - [9]
 

Gonna put alot of people off if they wanna try it out with out paying, they gonna have to do a 14 day trial to get people hooked

Mister Smithington
Posted - 2011.07.11 15:27:00 - [10]
 

I would have been much happier with a normal retail $50-$60 box cost. Instead we get MTs affecting gameplay in Eve (assuming they actually follow through with the Dust-Eve link).

$150 superlasers? In my Sov Battles? It's more likely than you think.

Reilly Duvolle
Posted - 2011.07.11 15:27:00 - [11]
 

Old news is old. They basically said the same thing at E3.

Razin
The xDEATHx Squadron
Legion of xXDEATHXx
Posted - 2011.07.11 15:31:00 - [12]
 

Originally by: Hilmar Veigar Pétursson, CCP

You're really getting the game for free but you have to pre-buy credits in the beginning. We might go fully free-to-play down the line, but in the beginning we have a cover charge just to manage the initial launch of it.

"Spin": CCP's new corporate culture. Well, ok, not that new, just coming into full bloom lately.

Tutskii
Posted - 2011.07.11 15:33:00 - [13]
 

Edited by: Tutskii on 11/07/2011 15:33:29
From the comments:


Quote:
"yep, this car is £12000, but it's free because you get £12,000 worth of car when you pay for it".

RougeOperator
Posted - 2011.07.11 15:45:00 - [14]
 

Originally by: Twilight Runner
Edited by: Twilight Runner on 11/07/2011 15:08:44
Linky to eurogamer article



And people thought the protesters were just being over the top.

Looks like they were right.

Harcosi
Posted - 2011.07.11 16:02:00 - [15]
 

Rofl, this isn't going to go well.

Seriously, you buy the game, and then to play it you have to pay money before you can use it? I would return the game straight away and demand a refund.

Ghoest
Posted - 2011.07.11 16:06:00 - [16]
 

"Mostly we need money for pants."

K'iran
Spirit of EVE
Posted - 2011.07.11 16:08:00 - [17]
 

Originally by: Harcosi
Rofl, this isn't going to go well.

Seriously, you buy the game, and then to play it you have to pay money before you can use it? I would return the game straight away and demand a refund.


You should probably reread the article again.

Ghoest
Posted - 2011.07.11 16:11:00 - [18]
 

On a more serious note.

You buy the game then you have to pay more to play it? This is the opposite of getting a free months sub when you buy an MMO.

This is going to fail hard.

Oberine Noriepa
Posted - 2011.07.11 16:12:00 - [19]
 

Edited by: Oberine Noriepa on 11/07/2011 16:13:30
There will be a cover charge that gets converted into Aurum, which is the microtransaction currency. You also earn ISK in the game, but the Aurum is there for those who don't have the time to play in order to pay for their equipment. (Sort of like PLEX -> ISK.) As far as released information is concerned, Aurum will only serve as a substitute for ISK.

Harcosi
Posted - 2011.07.11 16:13:00 - [20]
 

Originally by: K'iran
Originally by: Harcosi
Rofl, this isn't going to go well.

Seriously, you buy the game, and then to play it you have to pay money before you can use it? I would return the game straight away and demand a refund.


You should probably reread the article again.


You buy the game.
Then pay the "cover charge".

What exactly am I re-reading?

Oberine Noriepa
Posted - 2011.07.11 16:14:00 - [21]
 

Originally by: Harcosi
You buy the game.
Then pay the "cover charge".

What exactly am I re-reading?

The purchase price that you pay for the game upfront is the cover charge. The only additional fees would be if you wanted to pay real money for Aurum, which, as far as I know, is completely optional.

Astorian Darkstar
Posted - 2011.07.11 16:15:00 - [22]
 

"It may be a basic thing people don't realise, but with Dust and Eve on Sony's network, we can allow them to chat together. Voice chat, text chat, that's all one world."

Kinda interested in what this entails. With their recent security troubles and ongoing legal issues due to those troubles, pretty sure I don't want my EVE account info anywhere near Sony's network.

Tippia
Caldari
Sunshine and Lollipops
Posted - 2011.07.11 16:15:00 - [23]
 

Originally by: Harcosi
You buy the game.
Then pay the "cover charge".

What exactly am I re-reading?
The "then" bit.
You buy the game. That purchase comes in the form of a cover charge that is converted into AUR.

Oberine Noriepa
Posted - 2011.07.11 16:18:00 - [24]
 

Originally by: Astorian Darkstar
"It may be a basic thing people don't realise, but with Dust and Eve on Sony's network, we can allow them to chat together. Voice chat, text chat, that's all one world."

Kinda interested in what this entails. With their recent security troubles and ongoing legal issues due to those troubles, pretty sure I don't want my EVE account info anywhere near Sony's network.

You do realize Sony has taken great measures to ensure the security of their networks, right? Regardless, EVE and Dust 514 are properties that belong to CCP. All of the interaction will be done through CCP's networks, and not Sony's.

Harcosi
Posted - 2011.07.11 16:18:00 - [25]
 

Edited by: Harcosi on 11/07/2011 16:19:33
Originally by: Tippia
Originally by: Harcosi
You buy the game.
Then pay the "cover charge".

What exactly am I re-reading?
The "then" bit.
You buy the game. That purchase comes in the form of a cover charge that is converted into AUR.


This doesn't make sense, the pre-order price is listed as $60, yet you're only going to pay $10-$20 as a "cover charge" to buy credits....


Originally by: Oberine Noriepa
You do realize Sony has taken great measures to ensure the security of their networks, right? Regardless, EVE and Dust 514 are properties that belong to CCP. All of the interaction will be done through CCP's networks, and not Sony's.


Yeah, I appreciated the fact that ONE WEEK after the fact they told everyone that their information had been compromised, and I had to cancel my credit card... Loved it, ONE GODDAMN WEEK.

Tippia
Caldari
Sunshine and Lollipops
Posted - 2011.07.11 16:20:00 - [26]
 

Originally by: Harcosi
This doesn't make sense, the pre-order price is listed as $60
That's because the pre-order is nonsense. It's a PSN downloadable.

Juliette DuBois
Posted - 2011.07.11 16:21:00 - [27]
 

Edited by: Juliette DuBois on 11/07/2011 16:21:26
Edited by: Juliette DuBois on 11/07/2011 16:21:05
Whatever it is, I laugh at Hilmar`s attempt to pass "cover charge"-game as free to play. Currency you receive is just a pre-order or premium bonus just like in real F2P games that are accessible without paying. Cool

Harcosi
Posted - 2011.07.11 16:21:00 - [28]
 

Originally by: Tippia
Originally by: Harcosi
This doesn't make sense, the pre-order price is listed as $60
That's because the pre-order is nonsense. It's a PSN downloadable.


So the $60 will be the price for the poor bastards that have crappy internet and will get double slugged a fee to play?

Tippia
Caldari
Sunshine and Lollipops
Posted - 2011.07.11 16:24:00 - [29]
 

Originally by: Harcosi
So the $60 will be the price for the poor bastards that have crappy internet and will get double slugged a fee to play?
Poor bastards that have crappy internet should probably not play an MT-based MMOFPS.

And where are you getting that $60 price? Sounds more like some retail outfit is making unfounded assumptions…

Oberine Noriepa
Posted - 2011.07.11 16:24:00 - [30]
 

Edited by: Oberine Noriepa on 11/07/2011 16:25:14
Originally by: Harcosi
Yeah, I appreciated the fact that ONE WEEK after the fact they told everyone that their information had been compromised, and I had to cancel my credit card... Loved it, ONE GODDAMN WEEK.

Read the rest of my post. Sony's networks won't be used for Dust 514. If you're so worried about credit card information being leaked, use a pre-paid PSN card to purchase your stuff. That's what I've been doing. No hassle, and no sensitive information involved.


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