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Adunh Slavy
Ammatar Trade Syndicate
Posted - 2011.07.09 07:26:00 - [1]
 

Recently I found myself with a ninja looter, and frankly I could care less about that, keeps boring missions interesting and half the time I let them have the loot, there's always more loot to be had. In this case the guy nabbed from a can and went red blinky. Ok fun time. So I run off and get a crow to come back to play.

So I locked up his vigil and before ya know it, in warps an orca and the guy switches ships to a loki. Long story short, one dead crow, big whoop, I can make back 12 mil ISK in my sleep.

What irks me is that the guy is able to escape the consequences of actions with an alt in an orca. Suppose he was getting his ship beat up. Looking at the guy's profile, chances are he'd have swapped out to his pod and been free of consequences. (this was high sec btw).

Needing an alt to cheat the challenges of single account play is cheap as it is, but the advantage of being able to escape consequences and play this sort of bait and switch game should be examined.

I propose that one can not swap ships at a ship hangar while under aggro.

P.S. Don't give me your "cry moar" crap, this is not a complaint, I enjoyed the fight, so to those sorts, have a sincere preemptive "psis off"

Naomi Knight
Amarr
Posted - 2011.07.09 07:35:00 - [2]
 

yep nerf lokis

wiersma
Caldari
Dark Matter Systems
Posted - 2011.07.09 07:38:00 - [3]
 

while i do like your idea
its has some problems. like playing in WH or 0.0 space where people are dependant of such tactics.

so if you could find a way (discribe) how this would be inplemented without screwing over other players i would love to read it.

Adunh Slavy
Ammatar Trade Syndicate
Posted - 2011.07.09 08:02:00 - [4]
 

Edited by: Adunh Slavy on 09/07/2011 08:03:22
Originally by: wiersma
while i do like your idea
its has some problems. like playing in WH or 0.0 space where people are dependant of such tactics.

so if you could find a way (discribe) how this would be inplemented without screwing over other players i would love to read it.


Where do we define getting "screwed over" stops or starts? If you could be more explicit that would be helpful.

What I propose is if you're getting red boxed, you should not be able to swap ships. Maybe make it dependent on a warp scram being part of the deal or not. Under POS shields it should not apply, that's like docking in a station. Besides no one is going to chase someone to a gun covered POS.

Edit: Sure you can eject and swap ships, but at least the price is paid for the swap.

Ranka Mei
Caldari
Posted - 2011.07.09 11:00:00 - [5]
 

Not being able to swap ships -- wherever it occurs -- just goes totally against the spirit of EVE. Besides, soon as you saw the Orca warp in, you could have warped out. Your e-peen prevented that, and you wound up dead. No need to change the game for that, though.

NOT supported; 'working as intended.'

Adunh Slavy
Ammatar Trade Syndicate
Posted - 2011.07.09 11:04:00 - [6]
 

Originally by: Ranka Mei

NOT supported; 'working as intended.'


Feel free to refer to the P.S. in the first post

Ranka Mei
Caldari
Posted - 2011.07.09 11:08:00 - [7]
 

Originally by: Adunh Slavy
Originally by: Ranka Mei

NOT supported; 'working as intended.'

Feel free to refer to the P.S. in the first post

Read it, ignored it: saying you're not complaining, whilst complaining, is just a childish, manipulative trick.

HTFU.

Adunh Slavy
Ammatar Trade Syndicate
Posted - 2011.07.09 11:14:00 - [8]
 

Originally by: Ranka Mei

HTFU.


Refer to P.S.

j1tabug IWINIWINIWIN
Posted - 2011.07.09 13:59:00 - [9]
 

Adapt or die

You have chosen death

Congrats

Now while he was switching to that loki you had ample time to gtfo and save yourself but you decide to stay and quench your carebear blood-lust and you where stupid enough to shoot a ninja in the first place so whos fault is it that you died.

As i said adapt or die (please choose die some more these tears are funny)

Adunh Slavy
Ammatar Trade Syndicate
Posted - 2011.07.09 14:02:00 - [10]
 

Oh look, some one trying to be original. **** off loser.

j1tabug IWINIWINIWIN
Posted - 2011.07.09 14:09:00 - [11]
 

You sound mad

Are you mad

Or do you know everything i said is the truth and you have come unstuck you could of gtfo but you decided to fight die and then cry.

Now you have proven to be so much fun im not going anywhere <3

Adunh Slavy
Ammatar Trade Syndicate
Posted - 2011.07.09 14:12:00 - [12]
 

Originally by:

Now you have proven to be so much fun im not going anywhere <3


Be my guest, we can get down into it. Oh BTW, post with yuor main, or are you chicken ****?

j1tabug IWINIWINIWIN
Posted - 2011.07.09 14:15:00 - [13]
 

Originally by: Adunh Slavy
Originally by:

Now you have proven to be so much fun im not going anywhere <3


Be my guest, we can get down into it. Oh BTW, post with yuor main, or are you chicken ****?


Arr yes your mad and i guess this is your main then well i goto say dear chap

Who ever posts with there mains these days

That would be stupid on my part letting you know whos coming

Thats like giving you the cake and letting you eat it too oh nono that wont do at all.

ps. <3

Adunh Slavy
Ammatar Trade Syndicate
Posted - 2011.07.09 14:16:00 - [14]
 

So chicken ****, thanks for proving who's the carebear ya big baby.

Ranka Mei
Caldari
Posted - 2011.07.09 14:18:00 - [15]
 

Originally by: j1tabug IWINIWINIWIN
You sound mad

Are you mad

Or do you know everything i said is the truth and you have come unstuck you could of gtfo but you decided to fight die and then cry.

Yup, that's pretty much what happened. He had ample time to make himself scarce. Other guy warped in with his Orca, had to board his Loki, turn on his mods, target... in other words, OP had plenty of time to GTFO. He didn't, because he thought he could take him -- the epeen thingy.

And then he starts a rather transparent post, saying he doesn't want to complain, only to complain after all. OP should just make a note to himself: "Next time bigger fish comes in, just leave."

You know, I usually defend the carebear side, being one myself; but this was just player stupidity, plain and simple.

Adunh Slavy
Ammatar Trade Syndicate
Posted - 2011.07.09 14:21:00 - [16]
 

Originally by: Ranka Mei
You know, I usually defend the carebear side, being one myself; but this was just player stupidity, plain and simple.


Were you there? Nope. Just being a troll attempting to derail.

CCP likes people to commit to fights, this is just a cheap way out. So go whine and bleat your cry more bull **** to someone who gives a ****

j1tabug IWINIWINIWIN
Posted - 2011.07.09 14:21:00 - [17]
 

Originally by: Adunh Slavy
So chicken ****, thanks for proving who's the carebear ya big baby.


That "carebear" would be you

You dont seem to understand the true nature of eve while it even blessed you with a small window to gtfo

You also dont seem to understand that im not going to make your life easy and give you free intel that wouldn't be in the spirit of eve would it.

And you now insult me and call me a coward i do say old bean for a 05 char i expected a little better ohh yes

Now please cry more a representative will be with you shortly

As ever <3


Adunh Slavy
Ammatar Trade Syndicate
Posted - 2011.07.09 14:24:00 - [18]
 

Originally by: j1tabug IWINIWINIWIN
bull ****


post with yuor main *****

j1tabug IWINIWINIWIN
Posted - 2011.07.09 14:24:00 - [19]
 

Originally by: Adunh Slavy
Originally by: Ranka Mei
You know, I usually defend the carebear side, being one myself; but this was just player stupidity, plain and simple.


Were you there? Nope. Just being a troll attempting to derail.

CCP likes people to commit to fights, this is just a cheap way out. So go whine and bleat your cry more bull **** to someone who gives a ****


You sir seem to give a lot more than a (such foul language you should be ashamed of yourself) otherwise why are you still here crying hopeing for a reassuring shoulder to come along and comfort you.

But it will never come dear chap for this is eve not wow you had your chance and you blew it.

j1tabug IWINIWINIWIN
Posted - 2011.07.09 14:27:00 - [20]
 

Originally by: Adunh Slavy
Originally by: j1tabug IWINIWINIWIN
bull ****


post with yuor main *****


As i said easy intel easy intel is this going through or would you be in need of visual aids.

Also i believe you where trying to call me a homosexual so i must kindly inform you that there are two Gs in that word

All my love my dearest.

Adunh Slavy
Ammatar Trade Syndicate
Posted - 2011.07.09 14:28:00 - [21]
 

Originally by: j1tabug IWINIWINIWIN

But it will never come dear chap for this is eve not wow you had your chance and you blew it.


ROFL, I don't feel the need to treat a wimp with much respect, if you don't like it, too ****ing bad.

And if you think I am actually upset, you're not very bright. But thanks for helping me keep the thread up top.

j1tabug IWINIWINIWIN
Posted - 2011.07.09 14:36:00 - [22]
 

Originally by: Adunh Slavy
Originally by: j1tabug IWINIWINIWIN

But it will never come dear chap for this is eve not wow you had your chance and you blew it.


ROFL, I don't feel the need to treat a wimp with much respect, if you don't like it, too ****ing bad.

And if you think I am actually upset, you're not very bright. But thanks for helping me keep the thread up top.


Arr calling me a wimp i believe this is called projecting you are taking your own inadequateness and "projecting" them upon me

It seems to me old chap you are the one who dosnt like it as your behaviour and language seem to reinforce this as i see no other reason to "cry" like this.

I do not think your upset as you have demonstrated through your foul tongue and sobbing i know your upset and i seem to be a lot brighter than you if i must say so myself but dont worry i want this thread to be at the top so hopefully someone will help you in a very "evely" way.

As ever my love

Alec Freeman
Minmatar
The Dark Space Initiative
Revival Of The Talocan Empire
Posted - 2011.07.09 14:37:00 - [23]
 

Nothing more amusing... Get can flipped well in 4x hulk 2x retriever 1x orca fleet, Orca ejects a ceptor and a huggin which the 2 retriever pilots jump into, thats one dead canflipper
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Adunh Slavy
Ammatar Trade Syndicate
Posted - 2011.07.09 14:40:00 - [24]
 

Originally by: Alec Freeman
Nothing more amusing... Get can flipped well in 4x hulk 2x retriever 1x orca fleet, Orca ejects a ceptor and a huggin which the 2 retriever pilots jump into, thats one dead canflipper
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That's quite different from being red boxed and swapping ships. What you describe is very legitimate IMO. Getting a "get out of fight free" card is the issue.

j1tabug IWINIWINIWIN
Posted - 2011.07.09 14:42:00 - [25]
 

Originally by: Adunh Slavy
Originally by: Alec Freeman
Nothing more amusing... Get can flipped well in 4x hulk 2x retriever 1x orca fleet, Orca ejects a ceptor and a huggin which the 2 retriever pilots jump into, thats one dead canflipper
Quote:
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That's quite different from being red boxed and swapping ships. What you describe is very legitimate IMO. Getting a "get out of fight free" card is the issue.


But my dear these are one in the same you cannot allow one but scorn the other.

Adunh Slavy
Ammatar Trade Syndicate
Posted - 2011.07.09 14:42:00 - [26]
 

Originally by: j1tabug IWINIWINIWIN
stuff


Whatever troll boy

Adunh Slavy
Ammatar Trade Syndicate
Posted - 2011.07.09 14:46:00 - [27]
 

Originally by: j1tabug IWINIWINIWIN

But my dear these are one in the same you cannot allow one but scorn the other.


They are not the same troll boy. If you weren't trying so hard to defend the tactic you'd know better. It's plain that you've a lot invested in this cheap little trick.

j1tabug IWINIWINIWIN
Posted - 2011.07.09 14:48:00 - [28]
 

Originally by: Adunh Slavy
Originally by: j1tabug IWINIWINIWIN

But my dear these are one in the same you cannot allow one but scorn the other.


They are not the same troll boy. If you weren't trying so hard to defend the tactic you'd know better. It's plain that you've a lot invested in this cheap little trick.


Im afraid my dear this "cheap little trick" as you put it is nothing compared to the grandeur of eve but none of less it is in keeping with the spirit of eve and im all for keeping eve in spirit.

And troll boy what a lovely little nickname my love i will love you forever too.

Adunh Slavy
Ammatar Trade Syndicate
Posted - 2011.07.09 14:52:00 - [29]
 

Originally by: j1tabug IWINIWINIWIN
...keeping with the spirit of eve ...


Yeah, the spirit of committing to fights and not having an easy way out.

j1tabug IWINIWINIWIN
Posted - 2011.07.09 15:00:00 - [30]
 

Originally by: Adunh Slavy
Originally by: j1tabug IWINIWINIWIN
...keeping with the spirit of eve ...


Yeah, the spirit of committing to fights and not having an easy way out.


My darling ill ask you have you ever been in a large fight in nullsec or even a small fight in highsec finding the easy path is what eve is all about everyone wants to get on that road

Take this scinario for you aye theres a solo ratting carrier how would you kill it would you

A Tank the hard approach that shows off your e-peen/e-honour and use sub caps but make life much harder for yourself

Or

B Drop several dozen moms on it and rip it to sunder

Do choose A or B and im afraid choosing neither is invalid


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