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DeftCrow Redriver
Gallente
Best Path Inc.
Cascade Imminent
Posted - 2011.07.26 20:53:00 - [511]
 

To CCP Zinfandel:

I'd rather pay for 5 permanent weapons and some bonus clothing in Battlefield Play4free instead of a single suit of clothing no one will be seeing for the next 18 months.

Did I tell you I bought MOO2: BaA, Jagged Alliance 2 and Planescape: Torment from GOG 3 months ago? Combine that with 2 albums from a musician that recreated Rush's Subdivisions. You have a blast. You feel like you are supporting honest and creative work. Now that's $60 well spent.

Good job creating the most powerful negative and laughable symbol in the industry a game can ever have. I'm sure the marketing department would be extremely pleased.

Starn Holdren
Posted - 2011.07.27 19:53:00 - [512]
 

I'm with the majority of people on this. If I do get some insane desire to play Barbies it would be be far cheaper to actully buy Barbie clothes and a little doll.

Even if walking in station wasn't a headache inducing pain in the *ss I still wouldn't be spending real world money on this. Maybe Halloween it would be a lark to pay a couple bucks for the Ninja/Conan whatever costumes.

Creh Ester
Posted - 2011.07.28 13:34:00 - [513]
 

Edited by: Creh Ester on 28/07/2011 14:04:33
Just reinforcing the gist of this thread.
I see EA doing unfathomably stupid things all the time. I really don't get it as I can't even imagine the mindset that leads to there.
I sorta feel the same about how the NEX store was opened. I don't get it. Is stupidity something which is spread through general developer circles? group-thinking?

Now I DO want to play space-Barbie. But I really need to have some items to do that, won't I? And that is never going to happen with current items (who did you contract to design such drab boredom?) or current prices.
Ask yourself: Why would you rather NEVER sell me even one single item for like 40, than selling me a hundred items for a total of like 100? I mean it's a diffence of 100 to zero in profits?

Some few extreme prestige items are ok, but you really need to let people loose here, if you're gonna see some turnover.
Where's my slick business suit with pants tight in the crotch? Where's my tank top and leather pants? Jeans and T-shirt? Jacket and miniskirt? And why don't we have a choice of colors? Where's my club dress? Fetish pilot suit?
Where's my outrageous, silk evening gown? Or scandalous swimsuit? And how do you plan to make the awful underwear you forced onto us compatible with anything like that?

Just asking. "learning" and whatnot mumblings, I would've thought all these things are utterly obvious to anyone.

The CCP-Zinfandel blog on pricing reads like it's been written by a complete idiot. I don't mean it as an insult or to say that CCP-Zinfandel is an idiot. But the contents of that blog is utterly, completely idiotic and reveals seriously derailed 'group-thinking' from some fantasy- La-La-land. How many beers did you all drink on those CCP meeting where these ideas where discussed?


J Kunjeh
Gallente
Posted - 2011.07.28 22:49:00 - [514]
 

Edited by: J Kunjeh on 28/07/2011 22:50:35
Originally by: Creh Ester

Now I DO want to play space-Barbie. But I really need to have some items to do that, won't I? And that is never going to happen with current items (who did you contract to design such drab boredom?) or current prices.
Ask yourself: Why would you rather NEVER sell me even one single item for like 40, than selling me a hundred items for a total of like 100? I mean it's a diffence of 100 to zero in profits?

Some few extreme prestige items are ok, but you really need to let people loose here, if you're gonna see some turnover.
Where's my slick business suit with pants tight in the crotch? Where's my tank top and leather pants? Jeans and T-shirt? Jacket and miniskirt? And why don't we have a choice of colors? Where's my club dress? Fetish pilot suit?
Where's my outrageous, silk evening gown? Or scandalous swimsuit?



Relaaaax....it's all coming, eventually. This is just the beginning. I hope we see some new stuff released tomorrow with the gift of AUR we're all getting.

Devai Starchild
Caldari
Posted - 2011.07.29 11:56:00 - [515]
 

Man, just don't get it.

Who wants to pay 20 dollars for an article of e-clothing? The fact of the matter is clothing loses 99% of its value when it doesn't exist.

You want to make money? Slash the price to 5$. Sell those pixels in quantity and it will more than pay for the quality of those "fashion designers" you are hiring.

Better yet. Fire them. Give the player the ability to design and sell clothes. Hell, sell the designer kit for 20$ bucks. That way the players get something that actually can be utilized, you get your sales, and everyone gets a wider variety of character customization that doesn't cost the equivalent of a real life outfit to have.

Pytria Le'Danness
Posted - 2011.07.29 19:54:00 - [516]
 

Originally by: Devai Starchild
Man, just don't get it.

Who wants to pay 20 dollars for an article of e-clothing?


It's just a coincidence that the first "free" Owrum arrives in time to buy the new and "high fashion" garbage dump. None of which can be bought with the advertising campaign disguised as "free gift".

CCP just hopes people throw good PLEX after the initial drug taster in order to buy stuff that does not exist.

No wonder Owrum is not yet transferrable between characters "for testing". That guy with the 26 accounts could have bought two monocles otherwise, and that's not what CCP wants.

I begin to wonder if they read too many bad japanese fantasy stories where admitting a mistake (like "We set prices too high") causes a face loss that can only be acquitted by ripping your own innards out with pieces of rotting shark or something.

They really must think we customers are stupid. It's bad enough that players scam in Jita, but that CCP would drop itself to the same level... What happened to the company that designed EVE? Anyone know where it went?

Mercurye
Nubian Sundance
Posted - 2011.07.29 20:21:00 - [517]
 


Hmm, I guess Ill have to save my AUR for something else, today's update left me a little dissapointed. (But I'm sure there's something for other people)

The 'Structure' skirt was the least appealing: I am not interested in ductaped 'High Fashion'. Poor chosen pattern aswell in my opinion

The heels are fine but I would expect these to come standard with the customization options...the name gives it away in a way: they aren't all that special

Am I too critical or spoilt by saying this? Maybe, but I just got back in the game again so I am full of energy again Smile

Anika Tan
New Eden Research.
Posted - 2011.07.30 16:20:00 - [518]
 

Design something fashionable, and I'll buy it. The new executive line (still not on the main server) was a good start. But ccp, honestly, you need to invest some time in making GOOD designs: not the crap that's on there now.

Drake Draconis
Minmatar
Shadow Cadre
Shadow Confederation
Posted - 2011.08.01 14:42:00 - [519]
 

Originally by: Pytria Le'Danness
Originally by: Devai Starchild
Man, just don't get it.

Who wants to pay 20 dollars for an article of e-clothing?


It's just a coincidence that the first "free" Owrum arrives in time to buy the new and "high fashion" garbage dump. None of which can be bought with the advertising campaign disguised as "free gift".

CCP just hopes people throw good PLEX after the initial drug taster in order to buy stuff that does not exist.

No wonder Owrum is not yet transferrable between characters "for testing". That guy with the 26 accounts could have bought two monocles otherwise, and that's not what CCP wants.

I begin to wonder if they read too many bad japanese fantasy stories where admitting a mistake (like "We set prices too high") causes a face loss that can only be acquitted by ripping your own innards out with pieces of rotting shark or something.

They really must think we customers are stupid. It's bad enough that players scam in Jita, but that CCP would drop itself to the same level... What happened to the company that designed EVE? Anyone know where it went?


Off the deep end.

Pretty bad when they give us all 1000 AUR only to find out you can buy a pair of boots..... lot a good that will do people...

Alex Sinai
Mining And Probing Specialists
Posted - 2011.08.02 15:24:00 - [520]
 

Dear capsuleers,

Don't you think it's CCP way to ask for your monetary support? May be for obvious marketing (shares up/down) reasons they can't raise montly payments or ask for direct donations from us. They also can't implement systems you propose that work in other games since then what different EVE will really be. Way less unique and considerably less attractive.
Besides who say they wont expand the shop and/or give customization to players in next expansion.
Its easy to complain. Lets look a bit beyond that. They took a bite larger then they could eat (two games in development) and obviously spendings rose way higher then expected. (which is also usual in gaming industry).
So they desperate for money and see a lot of it in EVE. Just problem that virtually any serious move they make is a huge risk of losing a lot of players and that's a lot of money with them. So they can't change mechanics.
I consider NeX shop as not too obvious request for help.

Zey Nadar
Gallente
Unknown Soldiers
Posted - 2011.08.02 23:17:00 - [521]
 

Edited by: Zey Nadar on 03/08/2011 08:11:04
Originally by: CCP Zinfandel

But initially this is just about learning. And you'll see us doing things with prices to try to learn more.


Do you sometimes listen to people to learn what they want?

kai dragonstorm
Posted - 2011.08.06 14:31:00 - [522]
 

why is the new clothing priced alongside real money, i read ppl putting tops for 60 dollars and such, dollars dont exist in eve, only isk,

lets compare with some eve items, you can buy polytextiles which is what the clothes are made of for around 3000 isk, you can buy a slave for 700 isk, so how come a skirt is worth billions,

what is with that markup, the fabric is cheap the labour is cheap, please explain CCP


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