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Gorki Andropov
Kerensky Initiatives
Posted - 2011.07.07 18:17:00 - [1]
 

Edited by: Gorki Andropov on 07/07/2011 18:17:47
Unless I've missed something, buried underneath all of the hoo-hah over the MT nonsense was this little gem. I hadn't seen anything on the forums about it:


http://i52.tinypic.com/nvpo5e.jpg


How much is this going to be abused? lol!


Image changed to URL. Zymurgist


Lady Spank
Amarr
In Praise Of Shadows
Posted - 2011.07.07 18:20:00 - [2]
 

Considering you will possibly get banned for abuse, not much. Even if that isn't the case since you can always claim to 'believe' someone was botting it won't immediately affect the person being reported anyway as CCP will investigate before acting on the account.

Kumq uat
Posted - 2011.07.07 18:21:00 - [3]
 

/me reports Lady Spank as a bot.


And yes that is for rejecting my convo a couple of nights ago. I thought you loved me Sad

Gorki Andropov
Kerensky Initiatives
Posted - 2011.07.07 18:22:00 - [4]
 

Originally by: Lady Spank
Considering you will possibly get banned for abuse, not much. Even if that isn't the case since you can always claim to 'believe' someone was botting it won't immediately affect the person being reported anyway as CCP will investigate before acting on the account.


Yes of course, that is a most distinct possibility! However, there are always ******s about the place that will go "hurr, durr, report bot"

Lady Spank
Amarr
In Praise Of Shadows
Posted - 2011.07.07 18:31:00 - [5]
 

Originally by: Kumq uat
/me reports Lady Spank as a bot.


And yes that is for rejecting my convo a couple of nights ago. I thought you loved me Sad


I usually have autoreject on Embarassed

What kind of guiding hand agent can't find me in my usual channels :P

Kumq uat
Posted - 2011.07.07 18:38:00 - [6]
 

Edited by: Kumq uat on 07/07/2011 18:38:00
Originally by: Lady Spank
Originally by: Kumq uat
/me reports Lady Spank as a bot.


And yes that is for rejecting my convo a couple of nights ago. I thought you loved me Sad


I usually have autoreject on Embarassed

What kind of guiding hand agent can't find me in my usual channels :P


When I became a director I got lazy.

Malak Alraheem
Minmatar
Posted - 2011.07.07 19:21:00 - [7]
 

Edited by: Malak Alraheem on 07/07/2011 19:21:37
I have the sudden urge to warp back and forth from a belt in my pod... LOL

edit.. making sure to stop at the 200km BM on the way of course.

Rinia Altir
Posted - 2011.07.07 19:23:00 - [8]
 

Seems like a needed feature to me.

Gorki Andropov
Kerensky Initiatives
Posted - 2011.07.07 20:19:00 - [9]
 

Originally by: Rinia Altir
Seems like a needed feature to me.



Yes, but I wonder how much undue weight this is going to put on the support system. At least with the ISK Spammer option, things were a little more clear cut. Though, of course, one might very well argue that it is the people might just abuse this facility for it's own sakes, who would wreck this idea.

Cancel Align NOW
Posted - 2011.07.07 20:25:00 - [10]
 

Here is the best use for the bot report option:

Some one is afk cloaking in your space for 23 hours a day. Report them as bots. CCP GM sees log in log out times and deduces it must be a bot cause no one can play for 23 hours a day. CCP GM bans afk cloaker who then has to petition to gain access to to account. Afk cloaker gone.

Zofe Stormcaller
B4D W0LF
B4D W01F
Posted - 2011.07.07 20:32:00 - [11]
 

Originally by: Cancel Align NOW
Here is the best use for the bot report option:

Some one is afk cloaking in your space for 23 hours a day. Report them as bots. CCP GM sees log in log out times and deduces it must be a bot cause no one can play for 23 hours a day. CCP GM bans afk cloaker who then has to petition to gain access to to account. Afk cloaker gone.


Botters actually have the client do stuff, not just sit cloaked in a safe spot all day, and randomly probe out anoms to kill ratting ravens in.

Lady Spank
Amarr
In Praise Of Shadows
Posted - 2011.07.07 20:33:00 - [12]
 

Originally by: Cancel Align NOW
Here is the best use for the bot report option:

Some one is afk cloaking in your space for 23 hours a day. Report them as bots. CCP GM sees log in log out times and deduces it must be a bot cause no one can play for 23 hours a day. CCP GM bans afk cloaker who then has to petition to gain access to to account. Afk cloaker gone.

That won't happen and you would risk action against you for abusing the report feature.

Guilliman R
Gallente
Northstar Cabal
Important Internet Spaceship League
Posted - 2011.07.07 20:35:00 - [13]
 

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Cancel Align NOW
Posted - 2011.07.07 20:35:00 - [14]
 

Originally by: Lady Spank
Originally by: Cancel Align NOW
Here is the best use for the bot report option:

Some one is afk cloaking in your space for 23 hours a day. Report them as bots. CCP GM sees log in log out times and deduces it must be a bot cause no one can play for 23 hours a day. CCP GM bans afk cloaker who then has to petition to gain access to to account. Afk cloaker gone.

That won't happen and you would risk action against you for abusing the report feature.


That does happen. And a player who is logged in more than it is humanly possible to play (23 hours a day for multiple days in a row) is adequate evidence to suggest they are bots.

Gorki Andropov
Kerensky Initiatives
Posted - 2011.07.08 07:02:00 - [15]
 

Originally by: Guilliman R
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heh

JT Black
Amarr
ALPHA REACTION
Posted - 2011.07.08 08:14:00 - [16]
 

Just a sorry excuse to make players intimidated.

Hundreds of macros/bots are reported monthly guess how many get banned ?

Answer is almost none or a extremely few percentage mainly high sec miners.
Now the big rollers in nul are free to abuse, everyone knows this.

Propaganda as usual.

Another usuless feature.

Prove me wrong CCP and release Stats on bans otherwise it fails to prove me wrong.

UNCLE HILMAR AND INC can you ban those hundreds of nul sec bots we have reported through the years ? Idea check your petitions

Cashcow Golden Goose
Posted - 2011.07.08 08:27:00 - [17]
 

Originally by: Guilliman R
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Nailed it.

Alhambra Rainwalker
Caldari
Innera Holiday Resorts
Posted - 2011.07.08 08:31:00 - [18]
 

Originally by: Cancel Align NOW
Originally by: Lady Spank
Originally by: Cancel Align NOW
Here is the best use for the bot report option:

Some one is afk cloaking in your space for 23 hours a day. Report them as bots. CCP GM sees log in log out times and deduces it must be a bot cause no one can play for 23 hours a day. CCP GM bans afk cloaker who then has to petition to gain access to to account. Afk cloaker gone.

That won't happen and you would risk action against you for abusing the report feature.


That does happen. And a player who is logged in more than it is humanly possible to play (23 hours a day for multiple days in a row) is adequate evidence to suggest they are bots.


Confirming that this is indeed the case. Of course things could change if CCP gets bombarded with complaints about false bans.

Stick Cult
Posted - 2011.07.08 08:35:00 - [19]
 

Originally by: Cancel Align NOW
Originally by: Lady Spank
Originally by: Cancel Align NOW
Here is the best use for the bot report option:

Some one is afk cloaking in your space for 23 hours a day. Report them as bots. CCP GM sees log in log out times and deduces it must be a bot cause no one can play for 23 hours a day. CCP GM bans afk cloaker who then has to petition to gain access to to account. Afk cloaker gone.

That won't happen and you would risk action against you for abusing the report feature.


That does happen. And a player who is logged in more than it is humanly possible to play (23 hours a day for multiple days in a row) is adequate evidence to suggest they are bots.

Not if they're not doing anything. If you're around at the right times, namely, when downtime is over, you can log in and then go afk all day, while cloaked. That's not botting.

Monstress
Posted - 2011.07.08 08:57:00 - [20]
 

Originally by: Cancel Align NOW
Originally by: Lady Spank
Originally by: Cancel Align NOW
Here is the best use for the bot report option:

Some one is afk cloaking in your space for 23 hours a day. Report them as bots. CCP GM sees log in log out times and deduces it must be a bot cause no one can play for 23 hours a day. CCP GM bans afk cloaker who then has to petition to gain access to to account. Afk cloaker gone.

That won't happen and you would risk action against you for abusing the report feature.


That does happen. And a player who is logged in more than it is humanly possible to play (23 hours a day for multiple days in a row) is adequate evidence to suggest they are bots.


No, it is not adequate evidence at all. There would need to be an indication of some sort of player activity during those 23 hours. Activating your cloak and going AFK, or even checking back to chat every few hours while remaining logged in the entire day is not even enough evidence to say the player is a bot.

By your logic, both of my trading characters would be reported as a bot because they're logged in 23 hours, but never really doing anything except periodically updating market orders every few hours.

Also, I think there is a thread somewhere related to bot hunting that shows some guidelines on how you should determine a bot before reporting someone as one, and no, AFK cloaking is legit and you do risk getting actions taken against your account if you abuse the Report Bot feature repeatedly based on worthless evidence.


 

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