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Jonathan Malcom
Gallente
Test Alliance Please Ignore
Posted - 2011.07.08 01:41:00 - [181]
 

Edited by: Jonathan Malcom on 08/07/2011 01:47:33
Originally by: Della Monk
The new trailer is cheesy, sure, but that's part of the charm I'd say.


I'll agree with this. I enjoyed the video. I'm not sure if that's in spite of or because of it's cheesy-ness.

Still, though. I can't deny that it makes me want to log in and X up.

Edit: I figured it out. After watching the video again, it occurred to me that I've been in that sort of situation. A situation that looked completely hopeless but is saved at the last minute by some new guy in a hero-rifter. Everyone yelling congratulations on comms. It's a powerful experience.

This post is remarkably remarkably un-bitter, but I think that's because this video, cheesey-ness aside, demonstrates what makes this game amazing in the first place. It's the reason why I play.

So good video.

Sed Man
Gallente
Havoc Violence and Chaos
Posted - 2011.07.08 01:42:00 - [182]
 

Edited by: Sed Man on 08/07/2011 01:44:50
Australian laws are not too damn hard, you just have to differentiate your 'competition' from a lottery.
The law is basically:
if its a game of chance, then you have to apply for a permit.
If its a game of skill/knowledge/ability, then you dont need a permit.

So if your awarding prizes based on a lottery type system, with no merit system applied, then you need permits.
If awarding prizes is based on criteria that are not chance based, then you dont need a permit.

Considering this is a competition where content is submitted and a panel of people judge the best based on criteria which doesnt include chance, then Australians can participate.

Do a little more research before you go excluding Australians from competitions.


EDIT: I thought the vid was awesome and enspiring. Nice job.

WisdomPanda
Goatriders Horde
The Scapegoats
Posted - 2011.07.08 01:45:00 - [183]
 

I'm seeing a lot of "ARGLEWARGLEBLARGLE", so I'd like to offer a grain of sanity to a thread that is currently suffering from an overflow of butt hurt from other threads and topics.

As an Eve player, I have - more than once - shared a battle story with other people, Eve players or not. When you're talking with people who are use to "WoW size MMO's" where getting getting more than 16 people is like trying to herd cats through the middle of an interstate highway, the mention over "over 1,000 people on field" tends to make them stop and pay attention a bit more. Follow it up with the fact you actually lost/took something tangible that effects the universe, and you're somewhere no other MMO lets you go.

If you are put into a stressful situation, it can get your blood pumping (also known as Epinephrine) and can even make your hands shake. I've had it more than once in EvE and it's a feeling like no other in the MMO world; loss means something here and the impact it can have to you and others is massive. More than that though, there is pride you can associate with "being there", in taking part of something big and massive that helped to shape something larger than your self. ("Big and massive" describing the event, not the amount of people)

As far as "EVE is real" goes, the points and counter points all hinge on your definition of "real". Is it real because it can create or provoke experiences and emotions? You'll hold your own opinion, but ponder this;

An asteroid hits a planet in a far off galaxy, it destroys the planet (no life forms, don't panic) causing an epic array of cause and effects in that system. We, however, only see the slight feed back (maybe a slightly brighter dot in the sky, way down the road). Despite the massive implications that are involved, we take no part in it and feel no substantial effect from it. In that regard, EVE (and other virtual activities) provide a far more "real" event, as they impact our day to day lives on a much more frequent and deeper level. Equally, we impact EVE's events just as much.

EVE changes you, in my opinion, that makes it real. There is however the misconception that something being "real" means you take it too seriously. This however is not an issue of real, but rather of priorities. Assuming you can manage your priorities correctly so that "critical" events (work, sleep, making babies) are given enough time, it is no ones place to judge a (legal) hobby of it's worth. We are free to choose what we enjoy and how, so long as it adheres to the laws we agree to follow. (The laws you are ironically born into accepting, but that's another story all together.)

Originally by: "Optimus Prime"
"Freedom is the right of all sentient beings."


tl;dr; Regardless of your stand point, the events in EVE happen, with real people (in this case, much easier to define) committing time, resource and knowledge to work together (or alone, but still as part of a whole) to move EVE into an as yet unknown future. If real is defined as something that you can effect and that effects you, EVE is defiantly real - far more than any other MMO.

If you don't believe so, this blog should have no effect on you what so ever, as your powerful logic driven minds would know that CCP is a business that needs money to run and has various different divisions that work on different aspects. Everyone knows and understands this, right?
(Do you seriously want PR/marketing guys trying to work on EVE code/art? Seriously?)


Having said all this... he was over acting. Wink

Van Derka
Posted - 2011.07.08 02:00:00 - [184]
 

Why CCP cant just make a feature movie on EVE and put that in the cinemas I dont know...

Othar en'gilliath
Caldari
OMNI Technologies
Posted - 2011.07.08 02:04:00 - [185]
 

Edited by: Othar en''gilliath on 08/07/2011 02:03:56
Originally by: Van Derka
Why CCP cant just make a feature movie on EVE and put that in the cinemas I dont know...


^
this

also they said the might if the books sell well o.O

which reminds me

/me waits for 2nd eve novel (3rd if you count burning life but 2nd to the 1st)

Ranger 1
Amarr
Ranger Corp
Posted - 2011.07.08 02:23:00 - [186]
 

Originally by: Buzzmong
Hold on. I think I'm seeing Deja-vu.

I do believe it went something like this:

CCP upsets playerbase by making terrible decisions.
*a few weeks after the noise dies down*
CCP: Can you please vote for us to win Game of the Year? We'll love you lots!
Players: Are you serious?!


Hahaha :|


Pssst... they won... Very Happy

Zaboth Garadath
Amarr
Ore Extraction Corporation
Posted - 2011.07.08 03:50:00 - [187]
 

Would anyone happen to have a mirror link of the new trailer?

China hates youtube Sad

Sha Dar
eXceed Inc.
Posted - 2011.07.08 04:16:00 - [188]
 

Damn good idea to have a repository of good videos and stories, the stuff that went down in the great sandbox that was eve.

When it's all turns to **** it will be a good reminder of when things were good.

I'd suggest chribba host it though, then it can't be messed with.

Altair Raja
Minmatar
Colonial Marines EVE Division
Posted - 2011.07.08 04:25:00 - [189]
 

this video should make it then
Whenever people ask about EVE its the first thing I show them
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oq2oxt7Nrxo

Elliott Calvadeux
Posted - 2011.07.08 04:27:00 - [190]
 

This is actually a very clever, and reasonable marketing campaign. The video is quite good too.
Kudos guys.

St'oto
Elite Predators
Posted - 2011.07.08 05:38:00 - [191]
 

Edited by: St''oto on 08/07/2011 05:39:12
Ok, while I first have to say that I'm glad you guys are gonna start rewarding your playerbase for free marketing, (even though I still think it's partly evil, but I'm anti Big ben and co so don't worry about it.) why the hell do you want to let new users suffer so bad? I would be 100% on board with this and wouldn't fuss not one bit, if the game was a bit more functional. I seriously feel sorry for any newbie coming into this game due to this new marketing spl0it because the game is pretty damn buggy. Release a nice "Fix 100 million bugs" type patch and than deploy this marketing strategy. PLEASE! In fact stop with incarna and just dedicate one entire season's patch to complete bug fixes. No new content, no fluff, just pure bug fixes. I've been an undying and devoted EVE fan since I was 13 years old. I'm now almost 21. But FFS I'm starting to feel like I'm playing a damn beta. I'm tired of all my money going towards new expansions that only serve to garner the attention of new players! After all these years I think the vets deserve one damn patch dedicated to bug fixing and not "new player initiative."

I seriously can't even brag about EVE anymore to my clan mates.(Which they are probably happy with.) I've annoyed the hell out of them for 7 long years bringing you money! Now I can't do it. As they easily counter with "Fix the damn bugs and we'll play."

EDIT: Sorry for *****ing but I'm reaching wits end here.

/Signed a "vet" who practically GREW up with EVE.

Nathan Jameson
Talocan Vanguard
Talocan United
Posted - 2011.07.08 05:44:00 - [192]
 

The video was cheesy, yes, but I like what CCP is trying to do with this. EVE has always been about the community and the shared experience (see the "Butterfly Effect" video), and emphasizing/developing this side of EVE is the way to keep it growing.

Braondra
Posted - 2011.07.08 06:05:00 - [193]
 

That was painful to watch. Absolutely not what the game is about. Was that a capsuleer? Why would he be nervous when we all know he has another clone and another ship waiting?

Sigh

My subscription still runs out on the 23rd. No changes made.

Written Word
Written Word's Tax Haven
Posted - 2011.07.08 06:40:00 - [194]
 

The first wave of articles to be submitted to that site should just be documenting of all CCP's fvck ups

Its pretty rich history running back for years, everybody loves the drama involved and it completely griefs the marketing team.

What's more EVE than that?

DarkTemplarCrimsonWolf
Amarr
Posted - 2011.07.08 07:01:00 - [195]
 

I am planning on posting 4 stories to help out, 2 corporate war stories, 1 pirate-linked story and 1 detailing the recent protest, this last one will have an image and emphasis that while both sides ****ed up (community and devs), the community as a whole was strong and united (not so common in MMOs) and that the devs rather slow but more than adequate response to the whole affair (I'll make sure to point out that a slow yet well thought out response is better than a rushed one that didn't not nuke concerns, just hope no one reads Zulu's devblog afterward :-S ). This last story may cast CCP in a poor light but it will point out to any new players that they are joining a community that is more than passionate about the game they play and maybe to put a lil' cherry on top I'll add in a link to one of Mittani's initial interviews regarding his activities with the GIA ( suffice to say that got me wanting to come back after I'd throughly burned out).

Ciar Meara
Amarr
Virtus Vindice
Posted - 2011.07.08 07:07:00 - [196]
 

I like it, no scratch that I love it, as a historian I love the fact that (finally) there will be a place for all those memories and stories we build up over the years. I know I kept alot of the old stuff from my time in PIE and early CVA and before that when eve was just a beta.

It would be nice to know that things like that wouldn't just dissapear. Now if CCP releases an awesome blog about upgrades to our space game shortly after I'll be even more happier.

btw, I liked the video, cause even if its a little cheesy, I remember similar fights.

Sarmatiko
Posted - 2011.07.08 07:08:00 - [197]
 

Edited by: Sarmatiko on 08/07/2011 07:10:09
Originally by: Zaboth Garadath
Would anyone happen to have a mirror link of the new trailer?

China hates youtube Sad


http://cdn1.eveonline.com/www/TrialLandingSite/video/Iwasthere.mp4
From this page http://trial.eveonline.com/en/eveisreal.aspx

Limyla
Posted - 2011.07.08 07:09:00 - [198]
 

It was a good Fictional Video, not a trailer,

a trailer shows at least something that you can do in game,

Worrying about buddy being shot up? why when they just wake up in station, collect insurance and buy another ship.

Gallente worth using in PVP? don't remember that being here.

And once again, Dog fight style combat? if only, they should have put it how it really is, both sides sitting in Maelstroms at 50km firing at each other while some annoying dude you can't understand is yelling on comms.

or maybe its just the fact that i'm in a bad mood this evening. still a good movie..

Castiel Arnolles
Posted - 2011.07.08 07:19:00 - [199]
 

So I have 0 capabilities creating a computer rendered scene like "I was there". But I can make video games. More specifically I was thinking of a 2d top-down shooter of an event in the eve universe. I don't want to sell it or really release it any other way than through the website described in the CCP Blog. (the video made me want to do it.) I think it would be a fun little project.

Morphisat
Hidden Agenda
Deep Space Engineering
Posted - 2011.07.08 07:45:00 - [200]
 

First you slap us around and make fun of us in internal email and now we're supposed to help ?

CCP Troll Best Troll !

Valei Khurelem
Posted - 2011.07.08 07:48:00 - [201]
 

I'm starting to understand why CCP is losing so much money, stop wasting it on stupid marketing videos for a non-existant player base.

You are reminding me more and more of SOE.

Morpheus Solo
Minmatar
Sebiestor Tribe
Posted - 2011.07.08 07:49:00 - [202]
 

God almighty CCP, when will you start communicating a little between departements, the timing for this so bad its hillarious. Now you want us helping you in marketing using player created material, while you have a community that doesnt exactly fall on their knees in admiration for your work with Eve. You even want to reward contributors with the very currency that have a not small part in enraging the community.

Worst in that blog though is the prices:

"We'll also have two side voting contests on best still image and best video. There will be some free graphics cards and a high end PC as prizes for those"

Really, is this some bad joke. While CQ creates a lot problems with graphics cards, evenburns GPU's for some users u offer graphics cards as a price. I hope u have a lot of those in the bag :-).

Mei Haruka
Posted - 2011.07.08 08:27:00 - [203]
 

Hey eve is real!
there are like skills in eve the game
some skills take 30 days to train,
and you can wait 30 days to get it
and then it won't apply to your ship!

Hekatonkheires, it's too soon, i am still butt hurt
i can't help you

Venkul Mul
Gallente
Posted - 2011.07.08 08:30:00 - [204]
 

Originally by: stoicfaux
Given that Aurum can't buy anything useful right now, can we assume that the NeX store inventory is going to be heavily updated *before* the community goal web site deal goes live?




Unless I am totally mistaken the goal (at least from the players point of view) is that there will never be something useful in the NeX store.

It is a vanity store, not a useful things store.

Alvia Div
Posted - 2011.07.08 09:06:00 - [205]
 

Originally by: Mag's
I was there, looking at a door.


What a coincidence!

Regina Shepard
Posted - 2011.07.08 09:07:00 - [206]
 

CCP needs to commit its man power to fixing the game instead of building “Micro-sites” and trying to recruit new players. The video was far too cheesy and is likely to set many potential new players up for disappointment when they sign up for a trial (or worse, subscribe) and realize the game really isn’t what they thought. Also, Aurum as a reward? Not sure that is any incentive for most players but I could be wrong.

McPod
Posted - 2011.07.08 10:03:00 - [207]
 

Put......the.....pipe.....DOWN!

Mendrik Crest
Freelancer Limited
Beer and Smoke Federation
Posted - 2011.07.08 10:13:00 - [208]
 


J Kunjeh
Gallente
Posted - 2011.07.08 10:34:00 - [209]
 

Originally by: Braondra
That was painful to watch. Absolutely not what the game is about. Was that a capsuleer? Why would he be nervous when we all know he has another clone and another ship waiting?



Well, umm, no....see, he was a player like you or me who's hands were shaking behind his mouse, keyboard and monitor. How'd you miss that?

Nehmen Geld
Posted - 2011.07.08 11:13:00 - [210]
 

Edited by: Nehmen Geld on 08/07/2011 11:14:38
Originally by: DeadlyThreat
Originally by: Throatslitter
Anyone know why Australia is getting the short end of the stick, again?

Seems unfair, no EVE advertizing here, ever, no boxsets available, and now excluded from competitions.

Other than that, sounds a good idea, I hope it pays off.


Because Australia's contest laws are horrid.


Yeah. Here in Australia we can't do anything without the government wanting to either control us or take our money. Want to drink beer out of a glass or wine out of a bottle after 10pm? Sorry, government says no. Have a plastic cup instead. Want to buy cigarettes? Government says "only in plain white packaging". Want to win some Aurum out of something other than a game of skill, sorry, government says you have to declare it as income... want to breath out? Sorry, government wants $23 for every tonne of CO2 you produce... Australia is so ****ed by the nanny state it's unbelievable. Seriously need an election and a decent party to vote for. If only there was a Goon Party here in Oz. Mittens for PM! lol


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