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ISquishWorms
Posted - 2011.07.08 13:45:00 - [61]
 

Well I (account has just 2-3 weeks max left) and a friend (whos account has already expired) were going to resub in two weeks after the CSM meeting, but after reading this I wont be and I very much doubt if my friend will be either.

I am sick of these mixed messages coming out of CCP. Do they even know what they want for this game as with these different messages it looks like they cant even agree internally on the future path of Eve.

Anyway I am out at least for now maybe I will return in the future once CCP can give us a difinitive unequivocal plain answer as to their intentions. If not so be it there are always other options and new games are hitting the market all the time.

Valari Nala Zena
Caldari
Perkone
Posted - 2011.07.08 13:53:00 - [62]
 

Originally by: Jorhan Brimve Stahl
Make effort to log in and read the entire piece.
TL;DR: OP is a liar.

"Q: You introduced micro-transactions for vanity items, but do you see that going further with the purchase of weapons, ships, better equipment that gives the player an advantage in-game?

Hilmar Veigar Pétursson: Right now it's just not something we can comment on. We've made a commitment to discuss those things with the Council of Stellar Management so me speaking out of turn would not be honouring that. Really the platform to have that dialogue is with the CSM. It's a complicated matter to define what is vanity and what is not vanity. There is a lot of vanity in society that has an impact on wider matters. "


And what was the conclusion from the CSM meeting?

[Source]
Originally by: CCP Navigator
It is CCP‘s plan that the Noble Exchange (NeX store) will be used for the sale of vanity items only. There are no plans, and have been no plans, as per previous communication and CSM meetings, to introduce the sale of game breaking items or enhancements in the NeX store.


CSM member replying to quote:

[Source]
Originally by: Vile rat
Originally by: Trebor Daehdoow
Of all of the questions CSM raised when we were shown the draft, the key one is the first: "Will non-vanity virtual goods be introduced?"

And I must be honest and say that CCP's steadfast refusal to answer that question is extremely disturbing


More than anything else this. I was sure where their position was but now I am "not sure". I don't really care so much about the pricing thing for dollies cause I figure if they want to charge 70 bucks rl for a monocle and somebody wants to pay that then 'heh' but no big deal cause if you don't want one you can just chuckle at those who do. That we've specifically asked for a public "we are not going to go to gold ammo for spaceships" and not received this is disturbing. This whole controversy is dumb and unnecessary and should have received a quick reassuring denial.

Unless there's something to this.


Again, they did not state they were never going to be any plans.

Maverick2011
Caldari
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Posted - 2011.07.08 13:53:00 - [63]
 

Originally by: I Love Boobies
Believe me, they know. They have already teamed up with NEXON, a huge free to play company, to make a localized Japanese client. So yeah, they are going to turn EVE free to play, and I think they are doing the Japanese client as a test bed to see how it works.



This. Nexon is going to teach hem the ropes of microtransactions as they are master of milking their players through MT. Its a no turn back from EVE. Its going to be P2W. My concern is if they are going free to play milking poor pvp bastards or if its going to be P2P +F2P. If its the latter then i'm out.

Jorhan Brimve Stahl
Posted - 2011.07.08 14:00:00 - [64]
 

Edited by: Jorhan Brimve Stahl on 08/07/2011 14:01:13
Originally by: Valari Nala Zena

And what was the conclusion from the CSM meeting?
...
Again, they did not state they were never going to be any plans.


They didn't say that the sky wouldn't fall. Oh wait..
OH CRAP, IT'S FALLING, I KNOW FOR SURE!!11oneone

Doesn't change the fact that OP arbitrarily cut out the important part of the quote.

Luke S
Zeta Corp.
Posted - 2011.07.08 14:23:00 - [65]
 

Edited by: Luke S on 08/07/2011 14:25:19
Originally by: Zhula Guixgrixks
Q: You introduced micro-transactions for vanity items, but do you see that going further with the purchase of weapons, ships, better equipment that gives the player an advantage in-game?

Hilmar Veigar Pétursson: Right now it's just not something we can comment on.


full GamesIndustry.biz interview with Hilmar


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you say one thing, yet you do another

Zhula Guixgrixks
Increasing Success by Lowering Expectations
Posted - 2011.07.08 14:37:00 - [66]
 

Originally by: Jorhan Brimve Stahl

Doesn't change the fact that OP arbitrarily cut out the important part of the quote.


OP was ment to motivate people to read Hilmar's words.

Eve-search of Jorhan Brimve Stahl's forum input reveals the real meaning of arbitrarily comments. Try harder..alt of whomever.




Joe Skellington
Minmatar
Matari Legion Holding
Matari Legion
Posted - 2011.07.08 14:38:00 - [67]
 

I get the feeling from what Hilmar states, is that he's open to "Golden Ammo" MT for the future.

Jorhan Brimve Stahl
Posted - 2011.07.08 14:44:00 - [68]
 

Originally by: Zhula Guixgrixks
Originally by: Jorhan Brimve Stahl

Doesn't change the fact that OP arbitrarily cut out the important part of the quote.


OP was ment to motivate people to read Hilmar's words.
Eve-search of Jorhan Brimve Stahl's forum input reveals the real meaning of arbitrarily comments. Try harder..alt of whomever.


I may be an alt, it doesn't make you less of a liar :)

"A misleading statement is one where there is no outright lie, but still retains the purpose of getting someone to believe in an untruth. "Dissembling" likewise describes the presentation of facts in a way that is literally true, but intentionally misleading."

If you insist on "motivating people to read Hilmar's words" then you failed, judging from the amount of rageposts containing your "edited" quote.

Gnulpie
Minmatar
Miner Tech
Posted - 2011.07.08 15:06:00 - [69]
 

Originally by: Hilmar Veigar Pétursson


"The sandbox and emergent gameplay in EVE is what makes the experience. Whatever we add to it is not meant to compromise that in any way."



Sounds fine with me.

Tymeran
Posted - 2011.07.08 15:45:00 - [70]
 

So I went and read the interview to get the full context of the answer to that question:

Q: You introduced micro-transactions for vanity items, but do you see that going further with the purchase of weapons, ships, better equipment that gives the player an advantage in-game?

Hilmar Veigar Pétursson: Right now it's just not something we can comment on. We've made a commitment to discuss those things with the Council of Stellar Management so me speaking out of turn would not be honouring that. Really the platform to have that dialogue is with the CSM. It's a complicated matter to define what is vanity and what is not vanity. There is a lot of vanity in society that has an impact on wider matters.

After the talk of the CSM (totally reasonable), there is a LOT of nothing. It doesn't instill confidence.

jackaloped
Posted - 2011.07.08 19:38:00 - [71]
 

He said this *after* csm supposedly went there and hammered this issue out??

Then really what was the point of sending the csm out last week?

Originally by: Luke S
Edited by: Luke S on 08/07/2011 14:25:19
Originally by: Zhula Guixgrixks
Q: You introduced micro-transactions for vanity items, but do you see that going further with the purchase of weapons, ships, better equipment that gives the player an advantage in-game?

Hilmar Veigar Pétursson: Right now it's just not something we can comment on.


full GamesIndustry.biz interview with Hilmar


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Uuali
Posted - 2011.07.08 20:54:00 - [72]
 

Free to play means your game is fail and people aren't subbing. I'll bet anything that Blizzard isn't thinking about this.

Make a game worth playing and advertise better. The bottom line will take care of itself.


NO, a business does NOT exist to make money. A business is supposed to be in the business of making a product that sells therefore it makes them money.

CCP should be doing a better job of innovating things that work and players want. Make a game more people will enjoy. Milking money through MT is the lazy way of keeping your game afloat. Free to play means you don't have the player base to begin with.

CCP YOU HAVE THE PLAYER BASE! LISTEN!

FREE TO PLAY = FAIL!

MT BASE FOR GAME = FAIL!

Jonathan Ferguson
JC Ferguson and Son Ltd
Ferguson Alliance
Posted - 2011.07.08 20:57:00 - [73]
 

Originally by: Valarian Blacksun
its not about that you monkey, if you invested time in a good game with a strong community. You still be ****ed of if somebody ****s it over.

Its not about us whining about it, its about taking something that was ours.

Eve was our games, and ccp was the protector.

Now ccp wants to make more money so they can make crappy consol games and vampire mmos.

So they will **** up eve to oblivion, and thats a damn shame. And yes am ****ing sad about it

...

its like your exwife just sold your children to a child molester in sweden.


Damn, son, wish you'd been around here earlier than July 4. Nice to see someone else whip out a few colorful, humorous and accurate metaphors/analogies.

Zeg Quul
Posted - 2011.07.08 21:14:00 - [74]
 

Viene la tormenta


Cancel Align NOW
Posted - 2011.07.08 21:40:00 - [75]
 

Hilmer:
Quote:
Q: You introduced micro-transactions for vanity items, but do you see that going further with the purchase of weapons, ships, better equipment that gives the player an advantage in-game? Hilmar Veigar Pétursson: Right now it's just not something we can comment on


Dev Blog released to Players:
Quote:
It is CCP‘s plan that the Noble Exchange (NeX store) will be used for the sale of vanity items only. There are no plans, and have been no plans, as per previous communication and CSM meetings, to introduce the sale of game breaking items or enhancements in the NeX store.


Shadow 12 months ago:


Sijakta Ho Pakrsh
Sultanate of Rum
Posted - 2011.07.08 21:49:00 - [76]
 

"Who does not trust enough will not be trusted"

~Lao Tzu


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